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Topic: Changeover VS 2005 on newer

Once again I try to change customary VS 2005 for something newer. The principal cause - even in simple projects if there is at least a ten configuration macroes depending from each other, ceases to work IntelliSense, members of classes, parameters of functions, etc. are not displayed, it is necessary to climb each time in descriptions that gets. From a C ++ I use only the most basic possibilities, plus some MS extensions so 14th versions of the compiler quite suffice, the main claims to a jacket. Tried VS2012, but it after 2005 too brake. 2010 faster, and it like as consider more or less stable so now I try it. Found out that 2010 not in a state to transform any file.vsprops from my projects. On the majority speaks "failed to load" though ways to broad gulls correct, and all files are accessible. On the remaining swears, as if there "unknown name", specifying in numbers of nonexistent lines, or resulting fragments of lines which in these files are not present and cannot be. That is, the converter completely moves down from coils and starts to talk nonsense. In forums/blogs many complained of it, but representatives MS traditionally chew snivels and advise to wipe headlights and  wheels. As a result the people altered all hands, and it at all does not smile to me. Tried to find a fix for this problem - in blogs on this subject anything is not present, and under the link resulted in "List of patches", at me generally is displayed nothing, though "All" I select in "Category", though everything another. It makes sense to try to struggle with 2010, or to try newer? If new - that what? I do not carry out systematic brakes of the interface by operation, even on pair the tenth second.

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I eat> It makes sense to try to struggle with 2010, or to try newer? After 2010 strongly defiled UI, became as for the CGA-monitor in 4 gradation gray. To find in this indiscernible homogeneous mass the necessary inscription, it is necessary to distract the considerable part of mental faculties, and it wildly enrages.> if new - that what? I do not carry out systematic brakes of the interface by operation, even on pair the tenth second. If new - that the newest (2015), there are corrected some new glitches. But the computer is necessary too the newest, and is mandatory with SSD.

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: O> After 2010 strongly defiled UI, became as for the CGA-monitor in 4 gradation gray. To find in this indiscernible homogeneous mass the necessary inscription, it is necessary to distract the considerable part of mental faculties, and it wildly enrages. You it about what? O> But the computer is necessary too the newest, is not mandatory O> and is mandatory with SSD for with ++ it anyway must-have

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: O> After 2010 strongly defiled UI, became as for the CGA-monitor in 4 gradation gray. I and 2010 with pleasure led to a traditional gray background with a minimum color , but I do not know, how. By the way, she persistently does not wish to put for the text editor some fonts of the fixed width (for example, FixedSys and my self-made) which normally saw 2005. Simply does not show in the list accessible though these fonts are accessible to other windows. It is somehow treated?

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Hello, VTT, you wrote: O>> But the computer is necessary too the newest, VTT> is not mandatory As 2015 works on  configurations? Time delays at navigation under the menu are noticeable? O>> and it is mandatory with SSD VTT> for with ++ it anyway must-have To me quite sufficed hybrid HDD (Momentus ST95005620AS, 7200). Brakes were felt only at opening and the first compilation, and then all was retracted in caches, and no difference with start entirely from a RAM-disk at all existed.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> As 2015 works on  configurations? If is SSD, practically the same as and on . I eat> Time delays at navigation under the menu are noticeable? Such unless happens?

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Hello, VTT, you wrote: VTT> If is SSD, practically the same as and on . How much "practically"? Any objective units are? I eat>> Time delays at navigation under the menu are noticeable? VTT> such unless happens? Pretty often. For example, now at me 2010 costs on  with i5/2.7GHz and SSD, and many windows of the interface (project property, search/replacement, etc.) open with a time delay somewhere 0.2 with, and some - about one second. Saving changed Property Sheet occupies about one second. I do not know, how they achieved such fantastic (same hundred millions superfluous processor commands) brakes on the elementary operations, but the fact is available.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> Pretty often. For example, now at me 2010 costs on  with i5/2.7GHz and SSD, and many windows of the interface (project property, search/replacement, etc.) Some open with a time delay somewhere 0.2 with, and - about one second. Saving changed Property Sheet occupies about one second. I do not know, how they achieved such fantastic (same hundred millions superfluous processor commands) brakes on the elementary operations, but the fact is available. Here I have pad DellVenue 11 Pro on super low-tension  Atom. On it VS2015 tolerably digests even rather heavy projects (thousand , templates, , different other libraries). And it at working . 0.2 - the scanty time delay, like such value is used on-default for any animations in the interface Can at you in windows and the studio everyones are included a prettiness, type rich visual experience? Saving changed Property Sheet, is more exact application of these changes, on idea can occupy a lot of time (especially if preprocessor directives to change for example). I do not know, how you there launch studio on , but it sounds strange.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> Once again I try to change customary VS 2005 for something newer. 2008 EM> ceases to work IntelliSense, members of classes, parameters of functions, etc. are not displayed, it is necessary to climb each time in descriptions that gets. Visual Assist? I eat> Tried VS2012, but it after 2005 too brake. 2010 faster, and it like as consider more or less stable so now I try it. 2010, like as, last from . Further WPF. Brakes wild: cold start of 2015 studios of 16 seconds (SSD) and it simply studio, without projects. Switching between Debug/Release 2-4 seconds (2-3 projects, !). Now compared with 2008 - start of 3 seconds (truth, end 4-5), switching of configurations instant (!) . I eat> It makes sense to try to struggle with 2010, or to try newer? In 2010 bugs suffices. During 2013 studios gorged on them. Here soon there is "15" studio, promise to work bright. However, and in it did not do without revolution.

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I eat>> Once again I try to change customary VS 2005 for something newer. F> 2008 at me the part of projects in this studio, together with Visual Assist very much even pleases. EM>> ceases to work IntelliSense, members of classes, parameters of functions, etc. are not displayed, it is necessary to climb each time in descriptions that gets. F> Visual Assist? +1, sat down on it still at the time of VS 6.

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Hello, Temnikov, you wrote: T> At me the part of projects in this studio, together with Visual Assist very much even pleases. At it, truth, in old studios the part of features does not work. But it does not belittle its merits.

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Hello, VTT, you wrote: VTT> Here I have pad DellVenue 11 Pro on super low-tension  Atom. VTT> on it VS2015 tolerably digests even rather heavy projects (thousand , templates, , different other libraries). VTT> And it at working . It is clear that once and somehow it digests any project if only storages sufficed. And "tolerably" is how? VTT> 0.2 - the scanty time delay, like such value is used on-default for any animations in interface VTT> Can at you in windows and the studio everyones are included a prettiness, type rich visual experience? At me all animations - for this reason time delays, on the contrary, are at all disconnected and felt. Animation smooths them. VTT> I do not know, how you there launch studio on  Under VirtualBox. Thus Windows and decent applications aloud do not brake.

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Hello, flt, you wrote: F> Visual Assist? Probably, also it is necessary, if it does not turn out to change studio. F> 2010, like as, last from . Further WPF. Clearly. Means, remaining it is eliminated. F> here soon there is "15" studio, promise to work bright. However, and in it did not do without revolution. Well, it though is more or less explainable, and does not affect productivity.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> Clearly that once and somehow it digests any project if only storages sufficed. And "tolerably" is how? While the project  / gathers, to have to wait, but here the interface, menus, autocompletion, passage on files works practically the same as and by the high-grade machine.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: F>> 2010, like as, last from . Further WPF. I eat> Clearly. Means, remaining it is eliminated. 2010 too on WPF

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I eat> Tried VS2012, but it after 2005 too brake. 2010 faster, and it like as consider more or less stable so now I try it. I nevertheless passed on 2012 - there library STL from With ++ 11. And in 2010 - from With ++ 2003.

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Hello, LaptevVV, you wrote: LVV> I nevertheless passed on 2012 - there library STL from With ++ 11. And in 2010 - from With ++ 2003. I STL do not use, the studio is necessary to me exceptional in a cover/editor/debugger role.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: the Most stable and  is 2013 studio. Generally no claims are present. And the compiler more less modern.

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Hello, flt, you wrote: F> Brakes wild: cold start of 2015 studios of 16 seconds (SSD) and it simply studio, without projects. , 8 seconds on a computer 5 summer prescription. Switching debug/release - almost instantly (it is less than second)  a solution - 4 seconds (8 projects, 20 thousand lines) glitches sometimes happen, but as a whole the noncritical. Not, well VC 6 from 98 year faster yes. Also it is launched and