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Hello, Sinix, you wrote: S> Not absolutely so. Purely technically winphone was really  as under a cowl (to make  TM even on cheap iron more anybody and was not honored By the way, that's it it and  me on Win10 Mobile. From time to time phone (Lumia 950) begins... ! Really, it is necessary to blink only a LED as spark HDD did on desktops, the remaining user-ekspiriens reach on 100 %. On WP7 and WP8.x such was not - for as the platform was pleasant: responsiveness, predictability. If I pushed the button "to unblock the screen" - it means will be unblocked right now, instead of upon termination of a swap as sometimes happens on Win10. And for the sake of it we so much years went on the general kernel UWP?

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: MD> On WP7 and WP8.x such was not - for as the platform was pleasant: responsiveness, predictability. If I pushed the button "to unblock the screen" - it means will be unblocked right now, instead of upon termination of a swap as sometimes happens on Win10. And for the sake of it we so much years went on the general kernel UWP? Well here yes, WP 10 upon and remained  even after a year after release. Somehow does not quit at them.

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Hello, Mr. Delphist, you wrote: MD> Hello, Sinix, you wrote: S>> Not absolutely so. Purely technically winphone was really  as under a cowl (to make  TM even on cheap iron more anybody and was not honored MD> By the way, that's it it and  me on Win10 Mobile. From time to time phone (Lumia 950) begins... ! Really, it is necessary to blink only a LED as spark HDD did on desktops, the remaining user-ekspiriens reach on 100 %. MD> On WP7 and WP8.x such was not - for as the platform was pleasant: responsiveness, predictability. If I pushed the button "to unblock the screen" - it means will be unblocked right now, instead of upon termination of a swap as sometimes happens on Win10. And for the sake of it we so much years went on the general kernel UWP? For the wife  640 perfectly works. Before there were also Andrjushi and .  it is happy more.

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_> Well there not absolutely the idea "=", and is faster all possibilities  OS in the mobile. To it all modern mobile OS now come. It because iron on  already above the minimal requirements for WinXP, and ten years ago iron was rotten and if on Windows bit (WinMobile) would stretch all these   that for the user applications would not remain resources.

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> Found in this year free time for review of the given action, directly in real time. MS Connect it not action, and a site for  bugs in the MSOVSKY software. And action is called Connect (); _> While on the first impressions of conference the main focus of the company goes on Asure. Azure. Focus year three as.

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Hello, qxWork, you wrote: S>> Well, time began about : and you casually do not have any plans on selective switching-on / to switch-off of separate features ? W> ReSharper | Options | Products and Features a little? It would be desirable to disconnect with  ?, At least, it is necessary per solution to do such things.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: _>> Well there not absolutely the idea "=", and is faster all possibilities  OS in the mobile. To it all modern mobile OS now come. T> it because iron on  already above the minimal requirements for WinXP, and ten years ago iron was rotten and if on Windows bit (WinMobile) would stretch all these   that for the user applications does not remain resources. We rave?) Ancient WinMobile already had more than adult possibilities, than even for modern iOS and thus worked on much more dead processors. Moreover, just leaving from this  because it was given by some inconveniences for programmers would be the correct vector of development for it, and the need for it any more was not (processors grew up). And by the way similar finishing of a kernel of mobile OS (as a matter of fact passage to a normal adult kernel) it has been made in the MSEC further. Only for other OS (winphone) which was already necessary to nobody from it , wretchedness and incompatibility.

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Hello, alex_public, you wrote: _> Hello, turbocode, you wrote: _>>> Well there not absolutely the idea "=", and is faster all possibilities  OS in the mobile. To it all modern mobile OS now come. T>> it because iron on  already above the minimal requirements for WinXP, and ten years ago iron was rotten and if on Windows bit (WinMobile) would stretch all these   that for the user applications would not remain resources. _> we rave?) Ancient WinMobile already had more than adult possibilities, than even at modern iOS For example? P.S. To catch up  for this purpose in WinMobile it was necessary  for the schedule, and for Windows it is a sick subject (because the multimedia under Windows lives only under DirectX which demands which graphic accelerators then yet was not in mobile a segment), but even in their WinPhone they could not solve this task and anything did not invent except the poor tiled interface more cleverly.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> P.S. To catch up  for this purpose in WinMobile it was necessary  for the schedule, and for Windows it is a sick subject (because the multimedia under Windows lives only under DirectX which demands which graphic accelerators then yet was not in mobile a segment), but even in their WinPhone they could not solve this task and anything did not invent except the poor tiled interface more cleverly. Yes there was all https://msdn.microsoft.com/ru-ru/library/ms172504 (v=vs.90).aspx the Same Qualcomm Adreno 200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno Had AMD drawing DirectX 9.0c And Net Compact had packet DirectX SDK August 2006 (DirectX 9.0 SDK) from Microsoft DirectX Developer Center center. Actually WinMo 6 quite good mobile system. It is very a pity that it did not begin to develop. I then much for  wrote.

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T>> P.S. To catch up  for this purpose in WinMobile it was necessary  for the schedule, and for Windows it is a sick subject (because the multimedia under Windows lives only under DirectX which demands which graphic accelerators then yet was not in mobile a segment), but even in their WinPhone they could not solve this task and anything did not invent except the poor tiled interface more cleverly. S> yes there was all S> https://msdn.microsoft.com/ru-ru/library/ms172504 (v=vs.90).aspx So WinMobile GUI has not been based on DirectX

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T>>> P.S. To catch up  for this purpose in WinMobile it was necessary  for the schedule, and for Windows it is a sick subject (because the multimedia under Windows lives only under DirectX which demands which graphic accelerators then yet was not in mobile a segment), but even in their WinPhone they could not solve this task and anything did not invent except the poor tiled interface more cleverly. S>> yes there was all S>> https://msdn.microsoft.com/ru-ru/library/ms172504 (v=vs.90).aspx T> So WinMobile GUI has not been based on DirectX But all for this purpose was. Then and WPF that only did the first steps. And WinMo was cut down  OS. The same WinForms But they decided to throw and create the new. A problem only in it. If developed WPF for WinMo it it would be much more effective. Simply WPF for mobile devices is much more effective.

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S> But all for this purpose was. Then and WPF that only did the first steps. And WinMo was cut down  OS. The same WinForms S> But they decided to throw and create the new. A problem only in it. S> if developed WPF for WinMo it it would be much more effective. S> it is simple WPF for mobile devices much more effectively. At first GUI the operating system it was necessary to translate on DirectX, and then already to think about WPF. But also it I think would be not enough because all these message queues were the main brake in Windows always.  MS got to a hole which itself when that and dug out (when multimedias (DirectX) and a desktop divided development (GDI) separately).

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: W>> ReSharper | Options | Products and Features a little? It would be desirable to disconnect with  ?> Such things, at least, it is necessary per solution to do NANOSECOND. It and so per solution like. All adjustments  from several files gather. In an ideal still would add layers of adjustments for folders in  that the agreements for tests could be used - generally  would be. While it is necessary to be perverted with filling csproj. DotSettings manually.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: S>> But all for this purpose was. Then and WPF that only did the first steps. And WinMo was cut down  OS. The same WinForms S>> But they decided to throw and create the new. A problem only in it. S>> if developed WPF for WinMo it it would be much more effective. S>> it is simple WPF for mobile devices much more effectively. T> at first GUI the operating system it was necessary to translate on DirectX, and then already to think about WPF. And what such GUI the operating system? Is WinForms which works over Win32 API Is WPF and XAML analogs use DirectX T> But also it I think would be not enough because all these message queues were the main brake in Windows always. T> Voobshchem MS got to a hole which itself when that and dug out (when multimedias (DirectX) and a desktop divided development (GDI) separately). WPF it just and multimedia and . Simply WinForms and WPF for  exist and to this day. There the problem that WPF has been oriented on DirectX 11 while Adreno was DirectX 9.0c With an output of a. net Framework 3.0 Microsofts is faster let out new API for drawing of user interfaces: Windows Presentation Foundation which was based on DirectX 11 and declarative language of the description of interfaces XAML. However, even despite all it, Windows Forms and WPF still offer similar functionality and consequently Windows Forms has not been abolished in favor of WPF, and it continues to be used as alternative technology of creation of interfaces along with WPF. Answering questions at conference Build 2014, Microsoft explained that Windows Forms it will be supported, errors will be corrected, but new functions will not be added. Later, the refined support of high resolution for various elements of interface Windows Forms nevertheless has been announced in release of a. net Framework 4.5.

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T>> At first GUI the operating system it was necessary to translate on DirectX, and then already to think about WPF. S> And what such GUI the operating system? GDI S> is WinForms which works over Win32 API S> Is WPF and XAML analogs use DirectX Here it and there is that hole which MS to itself dug out, there would be sharings arose also problems at WinMobile and so GDI stupidly did not pull changed requests of the market.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T>>> At first GUI the operating system it was necessary to translate on DirectX, and then already to think about WPF. S>> And what such GUI the operating system? T> GDI Ugu and, what such Windows Aero? S>> Is WinForms which works over Win32 API S>> Is WPF and XAML analogs use DirectX T> Here it and there is that hole which MS to itself dug out, there would be sharings arose also problems at WinMobile and so GDI stupidly did not pull changed requests of the market. Here a problem not in it. In WinPhone 7 analog WPF (Silverlight) Here by the way is just used said that applications for WinMo could be transformed under WP, but thus it was necessary to put unpopular Win 8 (I can be mistaken) Just a problem that they refused from WinForms. And on Dekstope they perfectly get on.

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T>> GDI S> Ugu and, what such Windows Aero? At WinMobile any Aero also did not smell. S>>> is WinForms which works over Win32 API S>>> Is WPF and XAML analogs use DirectX S> Here a problem not in it. In WinPhone 7 analog WPF (Silverlight) Then is just used why they gave birth to the ugly tiled interface? Not because WPF could not show all graphic power? S> here by the way said that applications for WinMo could be transformed under WP, but thus it was necessary to put unpopular Win 8 (I can be mistaken) They hammered on With ++, and on # to rewrite was long and expensively. Therefore developers hammered in a bolt on MS.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T>>> GDI S>> Ugu and, what such Windows Aero? T> At WinMobile any Aero also did not smell. S>>>> is WinForms which works over Win32 API S>>>> Is WPF and XAML analogs use DirectX S>> Here a problem not in it. In WinPhone 7 analog WPF (Silverlight) T> Then is just used why they gave birth to the ugly tiled interface? Not because WPF could not show all graphic power? It already on taste and color. S>> here by the way said that applications for WinMo could be transformed under WP, but thus it was necessary to put unpopular Win 8 (I can be mistaken) T> They hammered on With ++, and on # to rewrite was long and expensively. Therefore developers hammered in a bolt on MS. Here it a principal problem. By the way now they help  under UWP applications under IOS Windows Bridge for iOS

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T>> They hammered on With ++, and on # to rewrite was long and expensively. Therefore developers hammered in a bolt on MS. S> Here it a principal problem. For WinPhone, but not for WinMobile.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T>>> They hammered on With ++, and on # to rewrite was long and expensively. Therefore developers hammered in a bolt on MS. S>> Here it a principal problem. T> for WinPhone, but not for WinMobile. Well in new WinMobile there is all and the small cart. UWP applications to do much easier. But the train left. We wait for the new. And the exclusive content is for this purpose necessary.

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Hello, Sinix, you wrote:>> Such things, at least, it is necessary per solution to do NANOSECOND. S> it and so per solution like. No. S> All adjustments  from several files gather. But this adjustment there is not stored, can try.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: _>> we Rave?) ancient WinMobile already had more than adult possibilities, than even at modern iOS T> For example? T> P.S. To catch up  to Catch up?))) generally that at that time ios only was born and was a megapoor hand-made article. Gradually (but very slowly that only there are stories with clipboard and multitasking which "are not necessary") they developed in necessary a direction, but till now did not grow even to level ancient winmobile. T> for this purpose in WinMobile it was necessary  for the schedule, and for Windows it is a sick subject (because the multimedia under Windows lives only under DirectX which demands which graphic accelerators then yet was not in mobile a segment), You seriously consider, what MS could not at desire provide presence of drivers for existing then mobile 3d accelerators?) )) T> but even in their WinPhone they could not solve this task and anything did not invent except the poor tiled interface more cleverly. WinPhone poor just because is a pale copy iOS, instead of adult high-grade OS.

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T> It because iron on  already above the minimal requirements for WinXP, and ten years ago iron was rotten and if on Windows bit (WinMobile) would stretch all these   that for the user applications does not remain resources. At me in a store the worker of HTC HD2 who in 2009 had screen resolution essentially above than all  next 2 years till now rolls, the interface is more beautiful also all it on WinMobile 6.5 Alas during that moment at MS 3 strategic decisions 1) without the fenced market development of OS for  "not a pie" 2) new OS were already accepted as at Apple we make quickly so it is more favourable to make new OS in which all is put only through a market, than  a market in WinMobile and to force people to use it 3) Dzhoelja Spolski about favor of a rewriting something with zero not to read.

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_> WinPhone poor just because is a pale copy iOS, instead of adult high-grade OS. But that the same became a stumbling-block in WinMobile that it was required to write from zero WinPhone. I do not trust that without very serious reason would undertake to write a new axis from zero.

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_> At me in a store the worker of HTC HD2 who in 2009 had screen resolution essentially above than all  next 2 years till now rolls, the interface is more beautiful also all it on WinMobile 6.5 Interface there beautiful but static, and it was necessary  any smooth animations, effects, live wall-paper and so on. And it WinMobile was too hard at level GDI.