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Topic: came at once on some rake of Nokia

Developed by Samsung corporation, operating system Tizen should, according to a manual of the South Korean technological giant, to lower dependence on program decisions Google. Scale plans of corporation assume that the majority of gadgets needing OS from Samsung in due course will be translated on Tizen. According to issuing The Korea Times, Samsung intend to count on an own operating system and gradually to refuse thus from Android and dependences from Google. http://ruslanbah.ru/kak-stavili-samsung-nakoleni/

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Re: came at once on some rake of Nokia

Hello, sharpman, you wrote: S> Developed by Samsung corporation, operating system Tizen should, according to a manual of the South Korean technological giant, to lower dependence on program decisions Google. Scale plans of corporation assume that the majority of gadgets needing OS from Samsung in due course will be translated on Tizen. On what rake transited Nokija? At  there are enough resources to make OS, only here the question of quality of this OS remains in doubt %).

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Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote:> it forced me to pass the GARDEN with lumia 930 on nexus, after 6 years of love with . I meanwhile faced only one application which was necessary, but it was not... But Microsoft decided to beat

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: S> 1. Finns attempted on an inner sanctum and made the operating system for phones Symbian. Speak, class was . Why was? Updates quit till now. Bright .  that generation are natural media combines. S> here , yes as they dared? Really they did not hear - that is allowed to Jupiter it is not allowed to the Bull. And especially to a rabbit ... the Sense is not clear all. All right Nokiju would kill  or Samsung but who was sense to kill Nokiju for MS? To buy more cheaply? And ? It is possible only more cheaply if the name already costs nothing. But then also the sense in purchase is not present.

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Hello, Kodt, you wrote: the Propaganda material or not, but killed community of developers (both a software, and iron)  is a merit of a microsoftware. Well so I about it also speak. Normal confused management instead of what that plot against Nokii and Finland.

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Hello, Kernan, you wrote: K> On what rake transited Nokija? It actually . K> at  there are enough resources to make OS, only here the question of quality of this OS remains in doubt %). I here user Samsung to the Note (2, and then and 3). The device selected that on it Android and qualitative fast iron. And on figs Samsun about its OS will be necessary to me? Applications are necessary to me, and they under Android. Here on their TV sets  OS. There it not so strains. But also there it was better if there there was Android.

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Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: the GARDEN>... After 6 years of love with . And, so you love Microsoft... So also told at once. And that was not clear with you somehow all...

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> the Sense is not clear all. All right Nokiju would kill  or Samsung but who was sense to kill Nokiju for MS? To buy more cheaply? And ? It is possible only more cheaply if the name already costs nothing. But then also the sense in purchase is not present. Here there is you on a footpath, what sense to you specially to kill an ant? I hope, further all is clear...

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: S> http://ruslanbah.ru/kak-stavili-samsung-nakoleni/ the Good site, all entirely. If in Kashchenke their inhabitants in free from procedures a site did time, just about such and it turned out.

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Hello, MasterZiv, you wrote: MZ> So also told at once. And that was not clear with you somehow all... Operating system WinPhone essentially is better than Android.

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: S> http://ruslanbah.ru/kak-stavili-samsung-nakoleni/ Hun-sam-sung is quite capable  something such... The narrow-eyed. Approximately. As well as all other Japanese software falling when in system it is not installed Japanese  by default. Would take Ubuntu Touch

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Hello, Kernan, you wrote: K> At  there are enough resources to make OS, only here the question of quality of this OS remains in doubt %). A problem not in OS or its quality, and in an amount and quality of applications for it. What for to buy the smart phone if on it only 3,5 applications from  will stand?

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Hello, csero, you wrote: a C> Hello, Kernan, you wrote: K>> At  there are enough resources to make OS, only here the question of quality of this OS remains in doubt %). A C> the Problem not in OS or its quality, and in an amount and quality of applications for it. What for to buy the smart phone if on it only 3,5 applications from  will stand? Like it would be declared that Android-appendices there work and with the same speed that on Androide.

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: S> http://ruslanbah.ru/samsungu-kapets-yuz … tsenariyu/ S> However, both at Finns, and at Samsunga - the love was one-sided. When the Nokia and Microsoft triumphally "got married" in 2004, in This article any  delirium from the NATO, the USSR, migrants and .

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Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S> And what here a rake? Microsoft and Samsung.

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Hello, Berserk, you wrote: S>> And sales it did on 30  bringing Finns to 10 % of gross national product. In 5-6 years of Microsoft - bought Nokia - for 5 billion By the way, the TOP the manager received a bonus for it in 20 million euro - the dude tried worked, without sparing the Finnish stomachs. A year later the brand ceased to exist. A year later almost all employees dismissed. The contribution to gross national product and to treasury of Finns became 0. By that moment as Elop Nokija already came started to fall. There was the first  (2007) and the beginnings actively to grow. In Nokija tried to finish Simbian but it demanded enormous resources. For comparing technical director Nokija complained in those days that iOS write about 2 thousand engineers and Simbian of the order of 10 thousand. In my opinion Simbian was enough quite good system (very easy and power effective) but with very awful development environment, it it and ruined.  tried to hang on top Qt what to make applications programming more convenient but also it not  for some reasons. Not especially tried, it was not priority development and Qt began to integrate already after Harmattan received working iron. Creation of OS Harmattan (MeeGo) with 2008 and  on it that they was the primary goal after an output iPhone, by the way, successfully made.  morally started to become outdated already in 2006, and with arrival  all became even worse. Whether it was guilty in this Elop? I think yes, it is guilty, as the worthless principal. But no world plot in it is present.  made all correctly, here only it worked in interests  Microsoft and made then  capture mobile  Nokija.  it only that was  .

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Hello, Serginio1, you wrote: S>> And what here a rake? S> Microsoft and Samsung. Well estnodejs-tizen https://github.com/Tizen-Sunfish/nodejs-tizen It too a rake? Under Android and IOS is Xamarin. Means will soon be bent?

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Hello, Berserk, you wrote: You are not right. It is obvious that you know nothing about real events of that period, and that that here you write it retelling of articles with  and others "ikspertov-translators official a press of releases". You look by results. It is a microsoftware problem. N9 was on sale better Nokia Lumia even without injection of money in advertizing of the first and its sales in the markets of the USA. It is that fact for which publicity of Elop dismissed 2 tops, by the way.

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Hello, Berserk, you wrote: Hello, Kernan, you wrote: K>> it is obvious that you know nothing about real events of that period, and that that here you write it retelling of articles with  and others "ikspertov-translators official a press of releases". All right-all right, do not begin to boil, I simply emotionally expressed. I look you at once from trumps came. K>> it is a microsoftware problem. N9 was on sale better Nokia Lumia even without injection of money in advertizing of the first and its sales in the markets of the USA. It is that fact for which publicity of Elop dismissed 2 tops, by the way. N9 was on sale badly, as well as Lumia. As would develop N9 you can look on Jolla and Sailfish OS further, and also to estimate their sales. You the present expert, not what that there the translator a press of releases. I know that such Jolla and even pair of people therefrom I know. During that moment of Nokia could not tell that she "refuses" from  in a press and it will not evolve since They still wanted to let out any time (and let out) low and mid-end devices and even something made (it there was ruler Asha) yet do not finish to mind MeeGo and do not launch ruler Meltemi a ruler. A leader to Elopa was N9 and MeeGo and this platform was changeover  as obsolete. They also tried to drag all on Qt (QtQuick) in  (though it was pleasant to NOBODY) that then it is all it was possible to throw simply on MeeGo. On  simply write nothing since  they collect under press releases.

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K> Simbian morally started to become outdated already in 2006, and with arrival  all became even worse.  became outdated still before became Simbianom. Long before 2006. The Wide circulation of Simbian received only because it began to put on  (for those times) iron. The similar situation, by the way, was and with iPhone which also received the advanced iron.

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Qt was in a priority before arrival of Elopa, it covered development  phone (thus lowering on it some hundreds millions), simply took and closed. Well and then there was a history with Windows Phone when already got rid both of Simbiana and from Qt. Everything that tried to make (with some share of success) Elop -  an agony of Nokia. To it it was necessary to manoeuvre between fury  "closed one more  the project!!! 111" and questions of shareholders "and that it  on support more and more, and sales somehow do not grow".

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As a whole yes, but I think Nokiju it was possible to rescue. At least it was not necessary so quickly to refuse working horsy of Simbiana and the more so to declare about it public, at that time when new devices on it were planned. Besides it was possible to begin release of phones on Androide what to feed development of other "perspective" projects. As it does same Samsung for example. In such variant of Nokia simply would repeat history of the Sleepyhead. Because compete to Samsungom Nokia could not (owing to dearness of labor in Europe and also because Nokii do not have manufacture of chips, screens and other components - the essence of Nokia appears exactly as Sleepyheads). But an agony, IMHO, it would prolong for couple of years. Probably, till now Nokia somehow fought.

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So it is possible to tell about any phone.  an excellent variant for push-button telephones, very easy. Used N95 some years (by the way, phone of 2007 and a hit of sales), an excellent dialing program. All that was necessary already then - the camera, GPS. The battery weeks held. So in a role of a dialing program of Simbian and now  all live. As well as VindovsFon. A trouble only that dialing programs now not especially in honor, and especially they are not necessary for the big money.