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Hello, B0FEE664, you wrote:... I Think that the HARDWARE it is not necessary so to go to bat for it. These are all be up the spout.

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I have a suspicion that this the HARDWARE fulfills the order of the western special services. Because people normally do not share the mystical experience.

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Hello, LVE, you wrote: LVE> It is called "mystical experience". I do not see anything mystical in flight on the technical device.

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Hello, trotsky, you wrote: T> I do not see anything mystical in flight on the technical device. From emotional regularities of life you will not depart on the technical device.

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Hello, wildwind, you wrote: W> Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S>> you too exaggerate hypnosis possibilities. In films it so, in practice is not real. W> it is real. Witnessed. That is I have authentic, but indemonstrable knowledge. Any hypnosis is a self-hypnosis. That you saw, does not mean at all that so was actually. Well that is for example, if I you now ask to raise the left hand in air, and you make it, I as though hypnotized you. And the detached onlooker will be assured that I hypnotized you - after all normally you upwards do not lift the left hand, and "under hypnosis" lifted. But you will know that lifted it voluntary of the own free will, and could and not lift, but "pretended" that you are hypnotized and followed my instructions. About so-called" Hypnotic trance "is literally the same state in which you are when read the fascinating book. You forget that have control over the book, read letters, and simply automatically imagine and  that you read. Here to you and all"hypnosis", no mysticism here is present. And so, that someone clicked fingers, to you something suggested, and you and concepts about it had no, as in the branch beginning is described, such does not happen. Well and here such business, what if the experimental pretends, what such is possible, and pretends that he remembers nothing, how you define, it does a type or really does not remember?

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Hello, RiNSpy, you wrote: RNS> Any hypnosis is a self-hypnosis. Partly, yes. RNS> About so-called" Hypnotic trance "is literally the same state in which you are when read the fascinating book. You forget that have control over the book, read letters, and simply automatically imagine and  that you read. No, it is the big difference. Reading the book, you do not cease to receive real sensations - tangencies to the book, a seat, environmental sounds though and not always you pay to them attention. If you during this moment will be scratched by a cat, you will react. RNS> and so that someone clicked fingers, to you something suggested, and you and concepts about it had no, as in the branch beginning is described, such does not happen. Well and here such business, what if the experimental pretends, what such is possible, and pretends that he remembers nothing, how you define, it does a type or really does not remember? I and experimental was, so I do not need to tell about it. To make so that experimental remembered nothing hypnosis, it is impossible, the information in storage remains. But it is possible to block this information for consciousness, and the person himself cannot recall it. It is much more difficult, than simply hypnosis, but to real masters under force. On public statements really, often there are false people. It is a program part, they serve to cause trust of audience that with it it was easier to work. After all people all different, come in different mood etc.

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Hello, LVE, you wrote: LVE> I have a suspicion that this the HARDWARE fulfills the order of the western special services. LVE> because people normally do not share the mystical experience. How many unusual people on rsdn in this branch the Author: sharpcoder Date: 04.02.16.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: BFE>> Saw video shootings of this place, for example. S> Looked - on the Internet there are no shootings, a place not known, nothing remarkable, 200 km. From settlement. 200 km. From settlement is still it is necessary to look... S> it is not real. As tell, but... People rarely go in the remote regions without having prepared in advance, not  reports of others and without finding out about terrain. BFE>> and if wrote down would began to tell about other reality. S> well wrote down also sketches is, and what to sense? They prove nothing. For others - yes, prove nothing. For you they lift a reliability lath. S> after all I could set up all and all. Yes, could. S> this proof only for me, and for you value of this information is equal to zero. Even for you it will not be the high-grade proof. BFE>> it Is called "says lies as the eyewitness". S> I.e. if only there was no second witness - that says lies at once? You do not consider other variants? Well you the link esteem. During present research Elizabeth Loftus's psychologist also managed to suggest to the wards false memories on how in the childhood they were lost in shopping centers whereas actually it in most cases did not happen to them. S>>> I think your excuses - type the brain knocks - the full nonsense. S> and and here it? If there are illusions - that it is not present anything except illusions. It is demonstration of one of known errors of operation of a brain. I.e. that "the brain knocks" can be taken for granted. S>>> but when never the brain brought - that of that to doubt? BFE>> you never did corrigendas? Never forgot and did not confuse number? Did not forget house keys? You did not have stipulations? S> there is a difference to make corrigendas and to become the witness of the strange event. The difference is, but nobody can tell that "never the brain brought it". S> Small errors are admissible in operation of any system. Here speech not about such errors. Who knows, what a small error, and what - big? S> all the same what to tell time a ruler measures not precisely the sense in a ruler generally is not present. If at you it is equal one attempt of measurement and anybody cannot check up it, reliability of measurement is small. "Look before you leap" it is not simple so there was this proverb. I ask to note that seven are very much. It not two and not three.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Any supernatural forces and especially any non-material entities. Easier other civilization, not from mother Earth. After all the scientific world puts millions dollars in searches of signals from aliens, so? Means admit their existence. And such variant: any rich loony, took the fighter, changed clothes in the alien and started to roll you on the world. Then you come to those places, and there are they really were. Everything, now you know that aliens exist.

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Hello, RiNSpy, you wrote: RNS> Well that is for example if I you now ask to raise the left hand in air, and you make it, I as though hypnotized you. And the detached onlooker will be assured that I hypnotized you - after all normally you upwards do not lift the left hand, and "under hypnosis" lifted. If hypnotize you it is possible to try not to raise a hand. If hypnotize someone else it is necessary to make so that to raise to it a hand it was unprofitable. Type "there are volunteers to wash today toilets?".

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> And such variant: any rich loony, took the fighter, changed clothes in the alien and started to roll you on the world. A> then you come to those places, and there are they really were. A> Everything, now you know that aliens exist. The runway is necessary to a fighter. And the helicopter has the screw and strongly rustles. It can be distinguished from a silent plate?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: A>> And such variant: any rich loony, took the fighter, changed clothes in the alien and started to roll you on the world. A>> then you come to those places, and there are they really were. A>> Everything, now you know that aliens exist. S> the runway is necessary to a fighter. And the helicopter has the screw and strongly rustles. It can be distinguished from a silent plate? Why the plate will be is mandatory silent? Aliens do the same physical things which interact with environment. It  script writers not too  such things.

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Hello, alzt, you wrote: A> Why the plate will be is mandatory silent? Aliens do the same physical things which interact with environment. A> it  script writers not too  such things. I do not know why, but was silent. For me it is a sign of that that is made by not our civilization which even the car silent hardly can make.

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Well strictly speaking HUNDRED any knowledge agrees depends on the selected frame of reference so I simply not

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LVE> I have a suspicion that this the HARDWARE fulfills the order of the western special services. But unless it is not interesting sometimes  with special services?