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Minister Vasileva produced swaps in science department Cool, all manual of department of a science and technology expelled on a frost. Probably Lopatin not simply so left. She confirmed to agency that Matveev will fulfill Sergey Salihova's dismissed at own will duties. Except it similar announcements were submitted by three its assistants. It happened "at meeting in the ministry where there were nearby 15 persons". The reasons of such decision are not informed. Filled up the section, that's all the reasons.

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DO> Minister Vasileva produced swaps in science department Listened to Privalova at Satanovsky. He says what to sing the praises early, but!... 1. Stopped join of high schools 2. Forbade at schools even a mention of educational services, deciding that the main thing - education. 3. Next year is going to lead ALL-RUSSIA control at schools in subjects which least hand over all on Unified State Examination. Though Halts, of course, told what is better to return examinations in school the final. In it it is absolutely solidary with Ivanov from Petrozavodsk, though and irrespective of it. But also ministerial control - God grant the BEGINNING of resetting of normal training at school.

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Hello, LaptevVV, you wrote: LVV> Listened to Privalova at Satanovsky. LVV> He says what to sing the praises early, but!... LVV> 1. Stopped join of high schools LVV> 2. Forbade at schools even a mention of educational services, deciding that the main thing - education. LVV> 3. Next year is going to lead ALL-RUSSIA control at schools in subjects which least hand over all on Unified State Examination. LVV> though Halts, of course, told what is better to return examinations in school the final. LVV> in it it is absolutely solidary with Ivanov from Petrozavodsk, though and irrespective of it. It is all fine, as well as two languages both other and other. To learn when begin normally at schools that? And at us language school - and the teacher of a pronunciation of words confuses that... And so in all.

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S> It is all fine, as well as two languages both other and other. To learn when begin normally at schools that? S> And at us language school - and the teacher of a pronunciation of words confuses that... And so in all. It when Vasilevoj a monument during lifetime deliver... Halts offered, when it leaves at school 3 documents for the teacher: log, a diary, and electronic log

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Hello, LaptevVV, you wrote: LVV> Halts offered, when it leaves at school 3 documents for the teacher: LVV> log, a diary, and electronic log How it affects poor-quality teachers? To learn the subject they become better not - since they basically did not master it. And such  at us mountain. It is clear that the reporting hinders good teachers to work. But that at us is more than bad - and they anywhere do not get to.

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S> And such  at us mountain. It is clear that the reporting hinders good teachers to work. But that at us is more than bad - and they anywhere do not get to. You have a sentence how to solve this problem?

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: S>> And such  at us mountain. It is clear that the reporting hinders good teachers to work. But that at us is more than bad - and they anywhere do not get to. DO> you have a sentence how to solve this problem? For example, to allow to teach subjects to people without pedagogical education. Now you, for example, cannot go to school the teacher of computer science because you did not finish . And  with the diploma  can, though it with  confuses a recursion. To allow to control to schools the budget under control not the CITY BOARD of education and parent committee with the transparent report.  to schools to define the training program. Yes much that it is possible to make.

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P> For example to allow to teach subjects to people without pedagogical education. Now you, for example, cannot go to school the teacher of computer science because you did not finish . +1, it completely agree, and this norm entered rather not for a long time. Though I like can go, the scientific degree allows and without  at school to teach. P> to allow to control to schools the budget under control not the CITY BOARD of education, and parent committee with the transparent report. Well control  can be left, and even it is necessary, and here it is necessary to transfer decision-making to parent committee/board of guardians. P> to allow to define to schools the training program. In it some freedom is. There are some federal standards (School of Russia, School of 21 centuries, etc.) The school can select from them. But they rigid enough. To add flexibilities in the standard, for example, that and  the teacher at own discretion could form a dial-up of textbooks, it would be quite good.

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Hello, pestis, you wrote: P> Hello, Dym On, you wrote: S>>> And such  at us mountain. It is clear that the reporting hinders good teachers to work. But that at us is more than bad - and they anywhere do not get to. DO>> you have a sentence how to solve this problem? P> for example to allow to teach subjects to people without pedagogical education. Now you, for example, cannot go to school the teacher of computer science because you did not finish . And  with the diploma  can, though it with  confuses a recursion. There is a noticeable amount of the good experts, ready to give up operation and to go to school? At me in it the big doubts. But I do not have doubts that the most part of these experts at school receive from teenagers moral  as have no experience of dialogue with collective of children (sometimes generally experience of dialogue with children are not present). P> to Allow to control to schools the budget under control not the CITY BOARD of education and parent committee with the transparent report. What was specific a problem it solves? You have bases to suppose, what the average director disposes more competently? P> Razreshchit to schools to define the training program. What was specific a problem it solves? You have bases to suppose, what the average director makes more competently? To me as it at all is not pleasant to the parent. Present that the new director came to your school and made the idiotic program. P> yes much that it is possible to make. It is called not to make, and to throw off responsibility.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> +1, it completely agree, and this norm entered rather not for a long time. Though I like can go, the scientific degree allows and without  at school to teach. I think you you will not go. And very few people goes, and the minister whom simply idiot starts to move such decisions. DO> in it some freedom is. There are some federal standards (School of Russia, School of 21 centuries, etc.), the school can select from them. But they rigid enough. To add flexibilities in the standard, for example, that and  the teacher at own discretion could form a dial-up of textbooks, it would be quite good. What you suggest to do, if parents do not like this dial-up?

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Hello, LaptevVV, you wrote: LVV> 1. Stopped join of high schools At my amateurish sight it well. LVV> 2. Forbade at schools even a mention of educational services, deciding that the main thing - education. And it is cheap populism. LVV> 3. Next year is going to lead ALL-RUSSIA control at schools in subjects which least hand over all on Unified State Examination. The next global testing? What in it especial?

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DO>> +1, it completely agree, and this norm entered rather not for a long time. Though I like can go, the scientific degree allows and without  at school to teach. Z> I think you you will not go. And very few people goes, and the minister whom simply idiot starts to move such decisions. Here not all so is unambiguous. I will not go, but here my wife would like (it now in Kurchatnike works, and chemistry can quite teach), but is not present, it is impossible. DO>> In it some freedom is. There are some federal standards (School of Russia, School of 21 centuries, etc.) The school can select from them. But they rigid enough. To add flexibilities in the standard, for example, that and  the teacher at own discretion could form a dial-up of textbooks, it would be quite good. Z> that you suggest to do, if parents do not like this dial-up? Now - to replace school, other variants simply are not present. And here if to give formation/choice of the program to a school board of guardians where teachers and school administration, parents and pupils then variants are possible enter. It is ready to hear your sentences.

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It is necessary to Unified State Examination to refine, that there there was no bribery. Idea good. Control at schools always were a nursery . Unified State Examination in the theory a good piece since allows to estimate objectively all equally. In practice, of course, the bribery there is visible an unaided sight.

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P> Now good schools simply are not present, all learn equally under the same program. Here it is not absolutely true. All this campaign for join of schools has been directed on that there were no the bad schools. That is thus tried to lift level of lagging behind schools, and, in an ideal, to come to that all schools learned equally well. Implementation on . P> If at your child talent in , you still can  teeth to 9 classes and send it in specialized  (which in law violation learns under own program), but if at your child talent for music, the literature or chemistry no school for it is present. If at your child talent for music, that is  or . In  is  for children with parents. But there take really talented, and it is desirable that also parents were musicians. P> yes, and it is good. I consider that instead of 1000 schools identical so-so, let will be better frankly worthless 900 schools and 90 good and 10 excellent. Approximately as was in 90 when at  grammar schools was 100 %  in HIGH SCHOOLS, and graduates of normal schools could  calculate only for the TECHNICAL TRAINING COLLEGE. It is bad.  formation in the modern conditions should not be the social lift, it should be at everything, with individual biases, but equally high level.

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DO>>> In it some freedom is. There are some federal standards (School of Russia, School of 21 centuries, etc.) The school can select from them. But they rigid enough. To add flexibilities in the standard, for example, that and  the teacher at own discretion could form a dial-up of textbooks, it would be quite good. Z>> that you suggest to do, if parents do not like this dial-up? DO> now - to replace school, other variants simply are not present. And here if to give formation/choice of the program to a school board of guardians where teachers and school administration, parents and pupils then variants are possible enter. At me just now a similar situation. The program School of 21 centuries. The program and to many parents is not pleasant to me, a variant only one to fall down from school but who accepted a half-class dissatisfied if  that I think from a parallel it is possible and to type on the whole class. In the program at us the teacher as a whole not all gives that there is, at least / working writing-books she told in advance a part of textbooks not to buy,  they will not be used by it.

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Hello, Ziaw, you wrote: Z> It is a circle . Nobody forbids to conduct a circle without . Formations, conduct please.  a circle, normal lessons at normal school. In 80-90 and was, and nuts and normal people from schools  then began to twist. Z> It is is specific now at school there is money which it can spend at own discretion. Within the limits of budget articles, certainly. On increase of salaries too there is article, awards for example. , and in these articles the toner for the printer, the Internet or maintenance  is not provided, for example. Also be twisted as you wish, but for attempt to pay the Internet at the expense of the budget on repair you also fine. Z> and to save on the physicist with physical culture this wrecking. This your judgement, and someone with it does not agree and considers that wrecking saves it on education and orthodox . Z> And the beginnings it to carry through . or moved to that region? How to learn, what school really good and where a warranty, what there the director just at this time  the orthodox does not make the next year? At you generally children are? At school study? How you think, it is useful for them to arrange such races? It is useful. In states generally almost all change a surrounding at  from initial in average and from average in high school and all norms. And generally to you to solve, you want good formation to the child, you will carry or you will move, and even in a specialized boarding school you will send. Well and if to you beer on a sofa under football is more important, all it will be better if yours the child is  in region school, and instead of University enters the institute, and even generally in the TECHNICAL TRAINING COLLEGE. Z> you now about what country to me tell? About Russia, suddenly. Z> in the Russian Federation there is no law violation in the fact training under specialized programs. And here the court with you does not agree: http://news.ngs.ru/more/702637/ Z> you certainly calculate to get to this of 1 %, as a last resort in 10 %. I personally do not want to break working system for the sake of such clever men, especially it even good does not promise anything to you, but you now do not understand it. I calculate, and I put to it efforts. And I want that my child studied among those children who divides my sights. And children of fans of beer and the TV set start up study somewhere in other place, and then arrive in the TECHNICAL TRAINING COLLEGE.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> It is necessary to Unified State Examination to refine, that there there was no bribery. Idea good. Control at schools always were a nursery . Unified State Examination in the theory a good piece since allows to estimate objectively all equally. In practice, of course, the bribery there is visible an unaided sight. Bribery there in separate problem regions. In these regions any other system of estimation will give similar failures.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> Here not all so is unambiguous. I will not go, but here my wife would like (it now in Kurchatnike works, and chemistry can quite teach), but is not present, it is impossible. I think you understand that it  units which do not cover need. Even those who can - a little. And that who goes? And those who holds on more half a year? DO> now - to replace school, other variants simply are not present. And here if to give formation/choice of the program to a school board of guardians where teachers and school administration, parents and pupils then variants are possible enter. At me the big doubts that parents are capable to make any realized collective decisions. After I and in gardens visited several classes at PTA meetings, generally it seems to me that they are incapable for made time to make even obvious offered decisions. To work out and make the decisions they are resolutely incapable, not to mention quality of these decisions (three hours we procrastinate, night already, all are ready to vote though for line bald). When put all concerns money, there very much and very badly with a consensus, at everyone the very important and correct judgement. DO> it is ready to hear your sentences. For sentences it is necessary to understand, what problem it is solved. If it is a problem "at us  mountains" to refine motivation of teachers.

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Hello, Ziaw, you wrote: vsb>> It is necessary to Unified State Examination to refine, that there there was no bribery. Idea good. Control at schools always were a nursery . Unified State Examination in the theory a good piece since allows to estimate objectively all equally. In practice, of course, the bribery there is visible an unaided sight. Z> bribery there in separate problem regions. In these regions any other system of estimation will give similar failures. Not mandatory. That it is possible to check up program (tests) should be checked program. That it is necessary to check manually, should mix up on all republic and 26 schoolboys Rasula the teacher Maria from Vladivostok (naturally without suspecting about it) should check the answer to a question. All software should work in Moscow i.e. to forge results, it is necessary to bribe the Moscow programmers, at least. Can for the sake of very high person such and do, but they do not do statistics, and remaining it will be not on forces.

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Hello, Ziaw, you wrote: Z> Bribery there in separate problem regions. In these regions any other system of estimation will give similar failures. There is enough  Unified State Examination of these regions for arrival in HIGH SCHOOLS of other regions. I.e. led blind check, found out more N cases of abusings, allowed not to accept to HIGH SCHOOLS  from this center, a city or generally region. Further their business, want take, do not want, do not take, want arrange in addition interview.