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Topic: Down with souteneurs

For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs.

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I> For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. Except favourable/is unprofitable to eat and other criteria of true at people. For example morals.

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Hello, antropolog, you wrote: A> except favourable/is unprofitable to eat and other criteria of true at people. For example morals. It not morals, this false duplicity,  heads in sand and . From the point of view of morals it is necessary to reduce an amount of the sufferings, all remaining - not morals.

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. Dmitry Anatolevich,  comes to an end, the people worry! What else there will be thoughts about budget filling? There are some interesting ideas...

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> From the point of view of morals it is necessary to reduce an amount of the sufferings, all remaining - not morals. But only nobody knows as it to make. And when try to refine - it turns out even worse. It is necessary to concern difficult systems by a principle - works not . The church and religion - not  works. Well look that turns out: 1. Your daughter can legally be arranged with the prostitute (on reaching 18 years). And your neighbors, laughing, will be to you and to your wife regularly to tell as they it had. You can make nothing - all legally. Whether reduces this amount of your sufferings? 2. The spoilage institute can break up generally. Children in it is put. The house or houses where it is possible to come and with them to be played, satisfy a parent instinct. And wives will be considered as the phenomenon become outdated - after all the woman can receive money for sex, and legally. If you such clever - write the vision of morals that is good that badly and all of us together laugh.

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> It not morals, this false duplicity,  heads in sand and . It that morals. Probably still honor. And conscience. Personally to me thought on that that there will be such trade as "prostitute" is impossible probably not less than you certain "duplicity,  heads in sand and " I> From the point of view of morals it is necessary to reduce an amount of the sufferings, all remaining - not morals. The interesting point of view, but it is not new. To recall about hedonism or the Buddhism enough. Did not understand what to it a little prostitutes truth concern. Well, i.e. I understood that at you suffering because of  "duplicity..." Etc. But than your suffering is better/is worse my suffering when I will see the prostitute among legal trades?

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. From that that souteneurs  "dear businessmen" in branch of intimate services they cease to be souteneurs?... <<RSDN@Home 1.2.0 alpha 5 rev. 1495>>

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> it is necessary to concern difficult systems by a principle - works not . The church and religion - not  works. The religion does not work. Believers decoupled pair of world wars already. Threw off a nuclear bomb to Hiroshima. Burned live people on the areas of Europe.

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. It as the snow clod is a lot of that with itself drags. As a whole there will be a country degradation. On the contrary it is necessary to catch, put,  the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

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Hello, antropolog, you wrote: I>> From the point of view of morals it is necessary to reduce an amount of the sufferings, all remaining - not morals. A> the interesting point of view, but it is not new. To recall about hedonism or the Buddhism enough. Did not understand what to it a little prostitutes truth concern. Well, i.e. I understood that at you suffering because of  "duplicity..." Etc. But than your suffering is better/is worse my suffering when I will see the prostitute among legal trades? Not mandatory to name it a trade. For example the businessman is not a trade, but occupation. Or the deputy - too after all not a trade, but money receives.

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: I>> For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. G> it as the snow clod is a lot of that with itself drags. As a whole there will be a country degradation. On the contrary it is necessary to catch, put,  the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Than in essence the prostitute differs from the mistress?

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Hello, bingoboy, you wrote: B> Than in essence the prostitute differs from the mistress? It looking what principles at you. And that can you too is basic differ nothing.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> If you such clever - write the vision of morals that is good that badly and all of us together laugh. The reality says to us that despite presence of high morals, churches, propagation and education, prostitution is present all over the world. Even in  the countries like Poland or Ireland. In the same way someone's daughters become prostitutes - even with high morals at state level. The question - if presence /   does not influence in any way phenomenon presence,  not to remove from it a crime and not to start to earn on it money?

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Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp> a question - if presence /   does not influence in any way phenomenon presence,  not to remove from it a crime and not to start to earn on it money? Already the second in this subject with cheap demagogy. Really not clearly that so it is possible to tell about any illegal activity, making profit? Any trade in the illegal goods or banal corruption falls under a template.

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Hello, antropolog, you wrote: A> Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp>> a question - if presence /   does not influence in any way phenomenon presence,  not to remove from it a crime and not to start to earn on it money? A> already the second in this subject with cheap demagogy. Really not clearly that so it is possible to tell about any illegal activity, making profit? Certainly it is possible. If there is something, the prohibition something does not work, it should to cease be forbidden something ( that money is spent for nothing) and to legalize.> any trade in the illegal goods or banal corruption falls under a template. "Corruption" - the phenomenon of other order. She also dares very simply - magnification of salaries of officials that they did not need to take bribes. An example - Singapore where salaries of officials are comparable to salaries successful  (and successful businessmen entice in managers)." Trade in the illegal goods "- if the prohibition of the goods does not work (it all the same sell, but it is illegal) prohibition removal refines a situation and  money to the state, instead of a crime - see history of introduction and a canceling of the dry law in the USA.

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Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp> a question - if presence /   does not influence in any way phenomenon presence,  not to remove from it a crime and not to start to earn on it money? One business when the phenomenon is, but you it should be ashamed and look down. Understanding that you are guilty before God, permanently live in sense of guilt. And quite another matter when you lose sense of shame and b-dej put in one row with workers of sphere of services.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp>> a question - if presence /   does not influence in any way phenomenon presence,  not to remove from it a crime and not to start to earn on it money? S> one business when the phenomenon is, but you it should be ashamed and look down. Understanding that you are guilty before God, permanently live in sense of guilt. S> and quite another matter when you lose sense of shame and b-dej put in one row with workers of sphere of services. About, my favourite argument "well same quite another matter!" You can explain, why (for example, the believer) the person who is ashamed of prostitution as the phenomenon, ceases to be ashamed of it if the phenomenon legalize? The relation of believers to prostitution somehow changes after it will be legalized at state level?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> 1. Your daughter can legally be arranged with the prostitute (on reaching 18 years). And your neighbors, laughing, will be to you and to your wife regularly to tell as they it had. You can make nothing - all legally. Whether reduces this amount of your sufferings? S> 2. The spoilage institute can break up generally. Children in it is put. The house or houses where it is possible to come and with them to be played, satisfy a parent instinct. And wives will be considered as the phenomenon become outdated - after all the woman can receive money for sex, and legally. And what hinders these phenomena to happen now? How legalization affects it?

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Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp> about, my favourite argument "well same quite another matter!" ylp> you can explain, why (for example, the believer) the person who is ashamed of prostitution as the phenomenon, ceases to be ashamed of it if the phenomenon legalize? It is necessary that all were ashamed. Such society works better, in it it is less than sufferings. You think for what to the person sense of shame is given? ylp> the relation of believers to prostitution somehow changes after it will be legalized at state level? All of us believers. Simply some do not like a word God and instead of it they use a word  societies or nature principles.

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Hello, ylp, you wrote: ylp> certainly it is possible. If there is something, the prohibition something does not work, it should to cease be forbidden something ( that money is spent for nothing) and to legalize. No, murders and rapes - a fine example of prohibitions. Always there will be those who breaks something. ylp> "corruption" - the phenomenon of other order. She also dares very simply - magnification of salaries of officials that they did not need to take bribes. At the time of Tsjurupy of bribes took in times less (real copecks in comparison with the present) at very low salaries. People frequently steal not because from them the salary small.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S>> 1. Your daughter can legally be arranged with the prostitute (on reaching 18 years). And your neighbors, laughing, will be to you and to your wife regularly to tell as they it had. You can make nothing - all legally. Whether reduces this amount of your sufferings? S>> 2. The spoilage institute can break up generally. Children in it is put. The house or houses where it is possible to come and with them to be played, satisfy a parent instinct. And wives will be considered as the phenomenon become outdated - after all the woman can receive money for sex, and legally. vsb> and what hinders these phenomena to happen now? How legalization affects it? Simply now are ashamed, do secretly under other name. All understand that it is shame and a shame. And if to legalize - that to parents it will be a shame and to children is not present.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> you think for what to the person sense of shame is given? It is one of control threads for which the person it is possible to pull and manipulate it.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: vsb>> And what hinders these phenomena to happen now? How legalization affects it? S> simply now are ashamed, do secretly under other name. All understand that it is shame and a shame. S> and if to legalize - that will be a shame to parents and to children is not present. Well if my son was the cleaner of slops, the collector of taxes or any, forgive My God, the project manager, I too would be ashamed. Also what now - to carry out these trades from a legal field? Fairly - I do not see a difference. And if to select meanwhile, to finance selling cops and to be ashamed or shamelessly to finance the state - I will select the second.

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Hello, ivan2016, you wrote: I> For a long time already it is time to fasten this hypocritical ostentatious struggle against prostitution. Whores should be legalized, deduced from a shade, to deliver on the registration, to cut from them taxes and to force to transit regularly medical board. It will be favourable everything, except souteneurs. It to you is time for fastening. 1. Legalization does not entail majority legalization for people do not want to pay taxes, generally to quit a shade. I.e. most likely besides a criminal spectrum, will be legalized which allows including  criminal at the expense of lowering of norms of morals. 2. Your words about physical examination produce you, as potential customer of services. Physical examinations of prostitutes and you do not rescue. Unique advantage are taxes. But such  it will be favourable to state to become  and the killer. , what incomes trample.