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Topic: Choice of a cheap car

I want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. Assignment while very simple - to go on operation (30 minutes in one side, daily except days off), well and on trifles - the shop, can nearby go to any sudden affairs (on any concourse, principal here that the way near, moving of the long-range plan is not planned absolutely). In respect of passengers - that it was possible to take 1-2 passengers, dogs while are not present, children small I will not carry also (if only the emergency situation, but is a special case). The comfort is not important absolutely (for such money of it to think strange). The budget, we tell so - more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. As it is supposed that the machine will be , there is some question (for it would not be desirable to take pure the machine for standing in expectation of repair though I understand that absolutely to avoid repairs does not quit in such situation). 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? For example, it seemed to me that loaves now not so a lot of normal sell, a state at them often absolutely sad (though I can and be mistaken). 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? To an example the machine for 5 thousand, despite tons of assurances that "on the move", most likely is pure for gate to leave, and to cause the wrecker. 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? Clear business, the seller will try to lubricate attention from problem places, he (if the owner) knows them, and I can be not familiar with the given model, as a result I will receive a problem, whence did not wait. (Each machine can have similar moments if who has an experience - will be very grateful for such information). 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? Here for example one person writes, what the car on the move, all is excellent, year of release 1975,  a goat, the price nearby 60 , it is necessary such to trust, or here most likely something do not finish speaking? (1975 all the same) 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? For example to wait till the spring that what for a winter decays rotted, and either strongly went down in price or generally left in breakage?

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: I Want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. And for what purposes the machine is necessary? Under the list of your variants it is difficult to understand, and if you will sound requirements you look, offer you and other variants. Well and the budget too not bad the nobility that a little reasonable council to give. As it is supposed that the machine will be , there is some question (for it would not be desirable to take pure the machine for standing in expectation of repair though I understand that absolutely to avoid repairs does not quit in such situation). It is necessary to be morally and financially ready to that  the car should be repaired at once after purchase. That is in the estimate it initially to put. 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? For example, it seemed to me that loaves now not so a lot of normal sell, a state at them often absolutely sad (though I can and be mistaken). Well here , it seems to me, in worthy purchases a state to find rather difficult. 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? To an example the machine for 5 thousand, despite tons of assurances that "on the move", most likely is pure for gate to leave, and to cause the wrecker." On the move "it means that here today is got also itself goes, more than anything.> 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? Clear business, the seller will try to lubricate attention from problem places, he (if the owner) knows them, and I can be not familiar with the given model, as a result I will receive a problem, whence did not wait. (Each machine can have similar moments if who has an experience - will be very grateful for such information). Well, if itself you do not understand, extremely it is recommended to take understanding companion on car review. If after review the desire to buy this car does not disappear, it is necessary to be advanced on HUNDRED where you already agreed in advance about survey of the car and an estimation of its state. For it it is necessary to pay, but it is that costs, as considerably minimizes risk to buy frank fire wood.> 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? Here for example one person writes, what the car on the move, all is excellent, year of release 1975,  a goat, the price nearby 60 , it is necessary such to trust, or here most likely something do not finish speaking? (1975 all the same) if to speak about , the Field - then it is necessary to look exceptional at a car state. However, it is valid and for any other car age more than ten years. 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? , ., local sites of declarations.> 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? For example to wait till the spring that what for a winter decays rotted, and either strongly went down in price or generally left in breakage? It seems to me, no difference is present. There are certain models of cars, type Smart Roadster which become cheaper in the autumn, and rise in price in the spring, but it, possibly, not your variant.

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Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS> and for what purposes the machine is necessary? Under the list of your variants it is difficult to understand, and if you will sound requirements you look, offer you and other variants. LS> well and the budget too not bad the nobility that a little reasonable council to give. Truly, did not think. Assignment while very simple - to go on operation (30 minutes in one side, daily except days off), well and on trifles - the shop, can nearby go to any sudden affairs (on any concourse, principal here that the way near, moving of the long-range plan is not planned absolutely). In respect of passengers - that it was possible to take 1-2 passengers, dogs while are not present, children small I will not carry also (if only the emergency situation, but is a special case). The comfort is not important absolutely (for such money of it to think strange). The budget, we tell so - more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. PS. Added this text in the first post.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: the Budget, we tell so - more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. In this case I advise VAZ 2109/2114/2110. Well, or 2108/2113 - they are cheaper, but on two pieces it is less than doors. The machine to consider is exceptional injector. And yes, avoid  is where understating, toning round, " optics" and other collective farm.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: yes, and one more caution. Is mandatory check body and engine numbers. If number of the engine the same, as in documents - problems is not present. If another convince that the engine is installed the same model, as specified in documents. The matter is that, for example, in the nine can be installed  from the tenth family. Technically in it problems are not present also it even well, but it is potential impossibility to deliver the car on the registration.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: I Want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. Assignment while very simple - to go on operation (30 minutes in one side, daily except days off), well and on trifles - the shop, can nearby go to any sudden affairs (on any concourse, principal here that the way near, moving of the long-range plan is not planned absolutely). In respect of passengers - that it was possible to take 1-2 passengers, dogs while are not present, children small I will not carry also (if only the emergency situation, but is a special case). The comfort is not important absolutely (for such money of it to think strange). The budget, we tell so - more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. As it is supposed that the machine will be , there is some question (for it would not be desirable to take pure the machine for standing in expectation of repair though I understand that absolutely to avoid repairs does not quit in such situation). 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? Precisely it is not necessary to take . In comparison with the remaining list at it a heap of lacks and unique advantage - passableness, but it it is not necessary to you. Remaining depending on a state but to find in a little tolerant state Volga for such money it is much more difficult.> 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? For Volga, I suppose, the lower threshold already at level of your requests, that is, for 40-50 , you only and will receive scrap metal. Though, of course, everyone can be. For Frets-classics - around 20 thousand. For the Field - I do not know. But it, itself you understand, all very approximately. Thus it is necessary to understand, what even for "" in it can it is required to enclose as much again. 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? If you ask such questions, the answer - anything. Or to buy from the person to whom you certainly trust, or mandatory to take with yourself the expert. For purchase of second-hand articles it is necessary.> 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? Absolutely any sense. On run of similarly any sense. Only on a state. 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? Is better to search among colleagues, friends and acquaintances. It is more probability that to you do not sell scrap metal.> 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? No, has no. Unless for you - much to start to go in the summer, instead of in the winter easier.

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, everything that is less 100 .. Will be eternally under repair. I  by the machine am hardly more expensive some years and I advise to buy though the cheapest, but the new machine. If the salary official - take the credit at least for a year, the overpayment there not such big will be be, well or undergo and . Any on the order it will be more reliable than a grant harmony such killed second-hand, and at the price is more expensive at all on the order. By them there go only students, at which money are not present from a word absolutely and which are ready to be wound in the days on each analysis that for 50 roubles to buy the broken detail. Second-hand it makes sense to take bonus that for share of the real price to feel this premium. But the freebie does not happen and except  all will break (and  will cost as new) and to be repaired for bonus money. To take second-hand the cheap machine it is simply bad variant. Will break permanently, you will put often, sometimes it is a lot of (though here not so much money will be a pity, what is the time). To take very old machine - from each node there is a resource and for 30 years it simply came to an end. I.e. it will be strewed - casual failures of different nodes. It is possible to look inexpensive second-hand for the machine, which year 2 and on which big discount, thus it is very desirable that it was on a warranty. But chances such to find it is a little, most likely you will buy from under a taxi or with serious defect.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: I Want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. This line would be true about 20 years ago.  most actual of cheap second-hand is the Guelder-rose or the Grant, they are already more modern a series 2108, and them has been sold very much  so necessary second-hand it is possible.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: I Want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. Under your budget are inscribed: 1. Zhyguli-klassega (2106-2107 2. Chisels (2108-2109 3. Ten (2110 4. A field short (2121 5.  (469, 3151) 6. Toyotas of the beginning 90 (Carina, Caldina, Cartona and Malenkaya Sobachona) 7. Other  ( them) As it is supposed that the machine will be , there is some question (for it would not be desirable to take pure the machine for standing in expectation of repair though I understand that absolutely to avoid repairs does not quit in such situation). Which you should itself set the first question: who will service and repair the machine? 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? For example, it seemed to me that loaves now not so a lot of normal sell, a state at them often absolutely sad (though I can and be mistaken). Oise it is possible to take only in the presence of own . All masters on-uazam in the prices are guided on rich  type IID and on repair you can easily be destroyed. Than Volga to take better not. At all  to you  generations of teenagers. Fields  generations of collective farmers. Classics  taxi drivers. More shortly, life - a pain, all - the decay also is not present a temple in the city of Jerusalem. 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? To an example the machine for 5 thousand, despite tons of assurances that "on the move", most likely is pure for gate to leave, and to cause the wrecker. It practically does not depend on the price. As a whole, the psychological boundary after which amount of suitable sentences increases somewhere 100 thousand roubles. The further magnification of the price assumes magnification  sentences and so indefinitely. I would suggest to go on shows of cars for 40-60-80 thousand and if turns up nothing to increase the budget. It is necessary to understand that in a segment "" problemless devices do not happen. Your task to select that machine with which problems you are ready to be reconciled. To mark it has rather mediated relation, it not that segment to sort out.> 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? Clear business, the seller will try to lubricate attention from problem places, he (if the owner) knows them, and I can be not familiar with the given model, as a result I will receive a problem, whence did not wait. (Each machine can have similar moments if who has an experience - will be very grateful for such information). Most easier to look to the seller in eyes and to ask to tell fairly that with machine. If it without leading out a sight starts to treat that all norms, the grandfather on a summer residence went, silently charge to it with left in an ear and go to the following. The right answers: a beaten rotten body (the floor underfoot at the driver, a floor in a luggage carrier normally decays, thresholds) you take with itself sewed and you pierce through a carpet through, the motor  asks. It is easy for defining on a sound, the serviceable heated-up motor should hum as a healthy cat. If something clanks, taps, turns float, flashouts are passed, etc. the motor it is necessary to look. You take with yourself a stethoscope of the mechanic (200 roubles on any market) and with a clever type you listen to a head, and the unit. That in what place to listen and how to interpret results look on . Still variants of the right answers: the box in a partition and a suspension bracket was tired. It is checked besides elementarily. You get into the car and go on equal asphalt on each transmission switching upwards and downwards successively and through one. If any does not turn on, turnes on hardly, takes off, does not turn on 1 after 3, and also all outside noise - a box in repair. At the same time, if the motor does not pull ( in a floor, behind the black smoke and the machine does not go), it too will be visible. Superfluous sounds from a box basically should not be. The same with reducers. A superfluous sound or shocks - in repair. A suspension bracket also to check up simply. You ask a companion to shake the machine, and itself you climb under it with a small lamp. If after strong rolling the machine  is more than 2 times, shock-absorbers under changeover. If something  or dangles, it something under changeover. Generally it makes sense to tire out the machine on a platform and to look from below. You go on  more shortly, you enter request "how to look second-hand % %" and you are educated. The most unpleasant that waits for you it rotten the electrician. About it to you nobody tells, whether well it is not enough, last year the arrow of a tachometer twitched also an accumulator bulb burned, but after all all itself was corrected. And in practice it  a call that insulation somewhere in a bundle frayed and shorts on the earth. And tests it not to calculate in any way. For old carburetor machines of anything terrible, and with an injector it is possible to find out in the morning once that the engine is not got and what to do not clearly. There is a judgement that the machine is necessary, , is mandatory to tire out "on diagnostics" on HUNDRED. And so, it is all  as the co-owner HUNDRED I speak." They diagnose " that method that I described, because on normal it long and expensively. For example, to check up the engine it is necessary: 1. To get and listen 2. To take out candles and to measure a compression 3. To glance  in cylinders 4. To glance  in a head through oil cork 5. To wait while the engine cools down and to measure a compression on cold And it is only one aggregate. Naturally, anybody not begins to pay for it also all"diagnostics"is reduced to the first point. Which guarantees nothing, actually. I know one million stories when normal pros bought on analysis the engine after such short test, brought it, assorted and found out that he is killed in stuff.> 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? Here for example one person writes, what the car on the move, all is excellent, year of release 1975,  a goat, the price nearby 60 , it is necessary such to trust, or here most likely something do not finish speaking? (1975 all the same) Costs. Expression "all is excellent" it is necessary to understand as "all perfectly for 1975 of release". You should go and look that it means in practice. For example, you slam a driver's door, and the luggage carrier opens. Or between a roof and a windshield the hole in which easily gets the average sizes . Or the gas pedal jams also it it is necessary to hook reversely durable. 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? auto.ru and auto.drom.ru not  anything good is not present.> 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? For example to wait till the spring that what for a winter decays rotted, and either strongly went down in price or generally left in breakage? Yes. In the summer the machine to look easier. In the winter before you there will be a dirty piece of ice and  understand where it rotten.

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Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS> technically in it problems are not present also it even well, but it is potential impossibility to deliver the car on the registration. Now do not look engine number. Cancelled about three years ago.

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Hello, Mihas, you wrote: M> Now do not look engine number. Cancelled about three years ago. Like more 3, 4-5 it is exact, but it is not assured that it concerns before the issued machines.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: I would eliminate Volga from the list. I went a little on 31029 - heavy, slow,  a barge. Eternally decays and breaks.  and the Field - will be differently more expensive to repair because of the full drive.  if does not suffice on a second-hand Guelder-rose or Prioru is more practical to take something from generation VAZOVSKY . Still the seven long were issued. I do not think that they cost much in the secondary market.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. From 100 roubles it also is that threshold when it is possible to buy the domestic car though in any made a state. Though most likely and it will be completely . Taking the car for 40-60 roubles it is necessary to realize accurately that only and it you will repair. And a role here does not play to pass 10 or 10, at first it is necessary to be got at least, and then already to argue. And for 100 you will repair too, the car at least not absolutely killed in stuff appears huge luck. As it is supposed that the machine will be , there is some question (for it would not be desirable to take pure the machine for standing in expectation of repair though I understand that absolutely to avoid repairs does not quit in such situation). It also you are going to make. Here it here 40-60 roubles sounds as, "at me is 4-6 thousand roubles, advise, what to take the computer which pulls all modern toys, to me it would not be desirable for me permanently is in waiting of loading Doom 3". 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? Yes, this list consists of cars which to take precisely does not follow. I would tell the person with such requests should possess a large quantity of free time and to be the professional car mechanician. Save for a new foreign car is better or simply use a taxi.

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Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS> in this case I advise VAZ 2109/2114/2110. LS> well, or 2108/2113 - they are cheaper, but on two pieces it is less than doors. LS> the machine to consider is exceptional injector. Well VAZ 2107 - too injector, here the father-in-law bought 5 years ago from me and goes. So especially did not break at it, but thresholds decayed Now its machine approximately  in 50 and estimate.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: the Budget, we tell so - more 100 precisely is not ready to take (and I do not possess while such total, but I do not hasten, it is possible to wait till the spring), if at 40-60 to go in, it will be excellent, just on initiating repair there will be money, and further in process of arrival of problems will already understand. I would advise  on reviews.drom.ru responses of owners in the same way bought an inexpensive car from your list. As a rule nobody left without spending +100-200 thousand more  for the first year of that such machines like to rise simply  and not to go anywhere and when they go them pulls aside, brakes do not work, guzzle on 30 liters and all in this spirit. The machine it not a chair. He cannot be bought old so-so and simply on it to sit. You quickly clarify the huge list of that in it it is necessary to make and then go nuts simply in the budget which to you it as a result quits for 2-3 years. Normally thousand 300. Worst of all that you will sell it again for 60 and in no way the expenditures cannot absolutely beat off. Think, never spend 300 for support of the machine which bought for 60? I can tell to you as it  happens. So, you bought the domestic car for 60. On a trace. Put find it on the lowered wheels. Appear, your curve disks pass. You go in  both a beret and disks and rubber. While go to change it  that the machine conducts aside at braking. Ask to look - say that the brake on one wheel generally is deafened, brakes three or generally two. You go to shop buy , brake disks, receptacles, tubes, the principal brake cylinder in . To you it change. You  go and suddenly  to overheat in cork. Summer, you include an oven, sit in heat, go on HUNDRED, there speak to change the heat sink and the fan. And still the thermostat. Buy, change. The machine is all the same heated.  additional system of cooling. In passing clarify that at you all antifreeze for 2 days follows. The pomp leaks. At first add, when understand, how many it costs, pour at first water, then all the same change a pomp. On a trace. Day  is not got. Go to repair a starter. Through  the repaired starter breaks. Buy the new. In a week the new breaks... In general when you change everything you clarify in the machine that you cannot change a rotten body and simply sell it again for 60. 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? For example, it seemed to me that loaves now not so a lot of normal sell, a state at them often absolutely sad (though I can and be mistaken). According to two my friends, owners Uazov, at them spare parts go rejected with factory. + spare parts are made as if in the beginning of 20 centuries. The wheel which has fallen off on the move for  it is normal. 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? To an example the machine for 5 thousand, despite tons of assurances that "on the move", most likely is pure for gate to leave, and to cause the wrecker. Put in, the machine on the move. Very often at such cheap machines of a problem with documents. Type at the seller the hand-written power of attorney. The master - in far village and it is not clear, roofing felts it is live,  is not present, roofing felts in hard drinking> 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? My short list such: -  to look at a smoke behind. - to check up uniformity of deterioration of rubber, to estimate its state (good rubber generally costs much). Whether on uniformity of deterioration it is possible to estimate not there was a machine once a bit strongly and whether conducts it aside. In  old machines to solve a problem that rubber nonuniformly is guzzled, it is impossible - to look at brake disks. On them it is possible to estimate who went both its financial and mental state. - to estimate kol-in carbon black and oil in an exhaust pipe. If  run in 100, and there all black-oil that this lies, certainly. Though for 100 thousand  anybody about run in 100 will not speak probably. Real digit of run - 300-400, sometimes it is possible to meet and one million even on a Zhiguli. - as a rule I do not look so old , but it is necessary to check a rust - to examine the bottom at least sideways, under a rug, a luggage carrier, arches over wheels. If there somewhere  color - inside can already be all rotten - further on the got engine to examine all levels of liquids (except antifreeze - it better on deafened certainly). As a rule  at machines with such budget that in oil the emulsion,  dry, and in antifreeze and it already throws out bubbles. That is the engine under changeover. 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? Here for example one person writes, what the car on the move, all is excellent, year of release 1975,  a goat, the price nearby 60 , it is necessary such to trust, or here most likely something do not finish speaking? (1975 all the same) machines worry in any restylings different year and modification. Since any year start a body to zinc for example is plus, certainly. With any pass from the carburetor to an injector - too normally not bad. About it it is necessary to read about each specific model.> 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? Most of all it is pleasant to me drom.ru> 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? For example to wait till the spring that what for a winter decays rotted, and either strongly went down in price or generally left in breakage? The main thing - not in the evening-night. In darkness-twilight all lacks can be hidden. Yet it is not necessary to look normally during a rain but as the machine is searched absolutely budgetary it is not necessary even to wait that it will be unbeaten-interrupted, therefore goes and to a rain

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Hello, Mihas, you wrote: M> Now do not look engine number. Cancelled about three years ago. Engine model look. And number look, simply to refuse registration have no right, but a mark make.

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I Want to take the car. Big  I do not allocate, therefore the choice is insignificant, here the list that it would be possible to take:  (loaf/goat), Volga (31022 or 31029), the Harmony (quadruple or something close), the Field. To try to find the decent person who helps to select a successful specific copy. If it for it  - too everything is all right, the main thing - that decency Exploited "loaf", "goat" and "Field". Last  years I exploit the old Toyota (2004) extracted by the above described method. If the machine is necessary as means of transportation, instead of for process, here even to reflect on a choice there is no sense. upd: about the budget did not read up. Does not happen such

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My judgement - vases 2108\2109, is possible basically even the carburetor, with it special problems are not present. 1) whether Is in the mentioned list something what to take precisely does not follow? , Volga> 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? VAZ probably nearby 80-100.> 3) the general plan Question, admit I was defined from the easily soiled machine, meal to look the specific creation what it is necessary to check up first of all at her? To check up that a body did not rust through. The engine that is elementary not  on idle, did not knock also oil from an exhaust pipe did not fly.> 4) whether Has sense to look at a year of release? I do not think, anyway for such money there will be absolutely ancient car.> 5) I never the machine bought, therefore a silly question - how it is necessary to search for the seller, I while only through  know, can eat any other platforms, can at any more than trust, at any less, someone can knows? drom.ru 6) Matters, in what season to take the machine? . But if in your terrain of winter cold it is better to wait probably till the spring.

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Hello, Mihas, you wrote: M> Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS>> technically in it problems are not present also it even well, but it is potential impossibility to deliver the car on the registration. M> now do not look engine number. Cancelled about three years ago. At number look on purpose to clarify, whether it is cut/is interrupted. Besides, can check up that the engine of the same model, as written down in . At mismatch refuse setting on the registration.

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Hello, sambl4, you wrote: LS>> the machine to consider is exceptional injector. S> well VAZ 2107 - too injector, here the father-in-law bought 5 years ago from me and goes. So especially did not break at it, but thresholds decayed S> Now its machine approximately  in 50 and estimate. I consider that to the beginner  the car delivers less problems. And it is as though amusing sounded, chisels it  are more comfortable than classics.

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Hello, the Smith, you wrote: Acquaintance  goes for a drive on . As started to rot through a floor - threw off for 18  and took more live for 20  with ! But at it , with all its minuses. Injector  is not much more expensive. In fair condition injector  it is possible to find for 50-60, and for 100 and in an excellent state. On  low demand (that advisers of this topic visually show), thus  big comfortable "ship". Injector guzzles quite moderately, having thus nearby 120 pull and nearby 200 the moment, it differently not a Zhiguli. I for Volga. It is the underestimated machine of absolutely other level rather than a Zhiguli, both on comfort, and on safety.

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Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS> and it is as though amusing sounded, chisels it  are more comfortable than classics. Can and so, only the freshest chisels will be 2003, and the seven - 2014.

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Hello, __ kot2, you wrote:> 2) On each of the mentioned machines, what lower threshold of the price, after which it already most likely a scrap metal pile? To an example the machine for 5 thousand, despite tons of assurances that "on the move", most likely is pure for gate to leave, and to cause the wrecker. __> put in, the machine on the move. Very often at such cheap machines of a problem with documents. Type at the seller the hand-written power of attorney. The master - in far village and it is not clear, roofing felts it is live,  is not present, roofing felts in hard drinking I Have experience - the husband of the girlfriend took with itself "for the company" to look at ten for 20 pieces. Well , at once left on it 100 + km to the house,  and sold. I  as it generally sold it certainly, from docks there was only a purchase and sale contract by hand and the insurance like.

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Hello, sambl4, you wrote: S> Hello, LuciferSaratov, you wrote: LS>> and it is as though amusing sounded, chisels it  are more comfortable than classics. S> can and so, only the freshest chisels will be 2003, and the seven - 2014. 2114 up to the end of 2013 let out. But in its budget so fresh cars that 2107 that 2114, all the same will not be inscribed.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> to Take second-hand the cheap machine it is simply bad variant. Will break permanently, you will put often, sometimes it is a lot of (though here not so much money will be a pity, what is the time). , it __ to be a good variant for not skilled driver. The machine which it is absolutely not a pity. Will break often, but to repair a Zhiguli on HUNDRED not especially expensively.