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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> be not engaged in this subject in details? To what  it is better to pay attention? I last year am final this subject threw, used two Radeon 290 with   then new algorithms went - laziness was to understand.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> If heating in the house electrical - that is possible majning-devices  instead of a heater and expenditures for the electric power to write off on heating home. 1  a beret of 1000 W. I on   - Radeon 290 guzzled in three throats, then popular became Nvidia 750Ti - they colder and more economically as affairs now - not in course are

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> But after all except the electric power it is necessary also the equipment, it at the price is comparable to cost of currency which produces for all service life. After all the equipment quickly becomes outdated, create more and more advanced if to judge on a tendency of last years (after all began with videocards...). Never , but read as people complain. Processors are not effective for a long time already. Then there were videocards, but also they left in the past. And now use ASIC. And so complain that  Chineses even from devices were too lazy to shake an inveterate dust though sell as new. Here and the obsolescence problem,  dares, sell, deliver following generation. Yes here at least the first link. It as the casino,  is clear that will lose, but people all the same climb and climb.

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Hello, velkin, you wrote: V> Never , but read as people complain. Processors are not effective for a long time already. Then there were videocards, but also they left in the past. And now use ASIC. And so complain that  Chineses even from devices were too lazy to shake an inveterate dust though sell as new. Here and the obsolescence problem,  dares, sell, deliver following generation. Yes here at least the first link. It as the casino,  is clear that will lose, but people all the same climb and climb. So Zeus for $200 with ali, same  ASIC. About it also we speak. Can  other devices?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> So Zeus for $200 with ali, same  ASIC. About it also we speak. Can  other devices? No, above wrote, what not . Speed  it is possible to measure Another matter, though at the processor of general purpose, the videocard or . Yes here at least request in Google "ASIC": https://bitmakler.com/asic the List of devices, , capacity, the price. For the price of these  it is possible to buy two enough powerful  or a desktop though in  they and are not suitable. I would not began to be engaged  as it is expensive and it is necessary to understand that do. From my amateurish point of view if only one  costs 2-4 kilodollars for 0.2 kilodollars to the fortuneteller do not walk on what is not capable. And the most important thing the recoupment, computers are necessary to the programmer for operation, and here  should pay back itself. Clear business  is commercially much more effective, but that is worse it does attempts of remaining participants useless.

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As in any pyramid, those who was at the beginnings were enriched.

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Hello, temnik, you wrote: T> As in any pyramid, those who was at the beginnings were enriched. No. Only those who made the true forecast. Well I bought in the beginning 10  on 10 dollars. But sold them when their price became 50 and was happy, as thought that this temporary phenomenon and the price soon falls. Did not trust that could sell for 7 thousand dollars. Then only elbows to bite. But after all could and fall - whence I could know It back mind all it seems easy and predicted. And remember all even here on RSDN shouted - a pyramid, , you will not have time to take away money. Similarly and now there is a possibility to increase greatly money. But how to guess market driving? It needed to be bought . We admit, in 2010 you bought  on $1000 at the price for 1  = $0.080. It turns out 12500 . Yes, now you could sell them for 8 million dollars. But you not could know what there will be a course, truly? A maximum of nerves would suffice to suffer to level of the price of the Moscow apartment + machines. It is no more. And most likely would be happy, increasing the capital in 10 times. That is bought for 1 thousand, would sell for 10 thousand dollars and all. It backdating seemed that possibility is missed and that all has been predicted. It was clear nothing, as well as now.

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Hello, velkin, you wrote: V> if only one  costs 2-4 kilodollars for 0.2 kilodollars to the fortuneteller do not walk on what is not capable. In your list there is the same Zeus in several modifications. Simply than more low the price - that more low capacity. It is necessary to look on .

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Hello, Evgeny. Panasyuk, you wrote: EP> Some years ago for the sake of interest tried  LTC on powerful, but not so new GPU - something turned out type on the verge of an electric power recoupment. EP> I think after rouble falling in 2014  it became much more favourable, at least - because the price for the electric power expressed in currency fell to short term. Knew , which in 2010  something. There was pieces 40 + servers (in normal Tower towers), everyone under a knot is hammered  for that time NVidia Tesla. In my opinion on 4  in each case. And the software for  has been carefully rewritten with optimization under GPU. The gain on speed after optimization was in some tens, if not hundreds times. And  this economy some years. Well also what you  after such, with the sickly house computer, and after so much years?

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Hello, IID, you wrote: IID> Knew , which in 2010  something. There was pieces 40 + servers (in normal Tower towers), everyone under a knot is hammered  for that time NVidia Tesla. In those days Tesla had advantage in speed double calculations, and in the remaining could even lose. I do not think that for  somewhere generally are necessary FP calculations. At Tesla there was a counter in ECC and the increased memory size. At all thus cost more expensive in times than consumer devices, and I think that at recalculation for speed of search/cost strongly lost.

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Hello, IID, you wrote: IID> Well also what you  after such, with the sickly house computer, and after so much years? The charm  that you can  in solo then that you found all gets to you. And this just a variant for house computers which all the same stand idle.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the subject  here is interesting to Somebody? Profitableness  aspires to the cost price. Because it  the market. To be put there now . Trade at a stock exchange is better. S> and a question: who was engaged exotic not in mainstream currencies? There is that an interesting? What for currency from Microsoft, there is a sense to look? It makes sense  all successively new currencies. Sometimes they , but are not present is more often.

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Hello, Evgeny. Panasyuk, you wrote: EP> In those days Tesla had advantage in speed double calculations, and in the remaining could even lose. I do not think that for  somewhere generally are necessary FP calculations. At Tesla there was a counter in ECC and the increased memory size. EP> at all thus cost more expensive in times than consumer devices, and I think that at recalculation for speed of search/cost strongly lost. It is all not very well. It then was the fastest serial device in the market. And I am assured that the cost beat off many hundreds (and can also thousand) time. As it is arranged , and what sort of calculation to it are necessary I not in course. But also it is assured that all it has been considered at farm development.

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Hello, pestis, you wrote: P> the Charm  that you can  in solo then that you found all gets to you. Well there approximately and was. Two owners + the programming engineer on solid  thousand in 5-7 euros.

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Hello, IID, you wrote: IID> Knew , which in 2010  something. There was pieces 40 + servers (in normal Tower towers), everyone under a knot is hammered  for that time NVidia Tesla. The hogwash any, Tesla merged Radeon on any algorithm, and cost in times more.

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Hello, IID, you wrote: EP>> In those days Tesla had advantage in speed double calculations, and in the remaining could even lose. I do not think that for  somewhere generally are necessary FP calculations. At Tesla there was a counter in ECC and the increased memory size. EP>> at all thus cost more expensive in times than consumer devices, and I think that at recalculation for speed of search/cost strongly lost. IID> it is all not very well. It then was the fastest serial device in the market. It too not the fact. For example on speed of storage they conceded GTX', on single-precision  too. IID> And I am assured that the cost beat off many hundreds (and can also thousand) time. Probably also beat off, especially if they had a huge algorithmic advantage, but only most likely not thanks to that that it was Tesla instead of GTX, and contrary to