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The subject  here is interesting to Somebody? For experiment tried  on Google Cloud where took free of charge the server with 8 . Kernels. Simply to look in practice, to experience. Itself . The server of $150 in month at prices Google. And it was interesting to me how many really on it it is possible . In general,  a majning-pool f2pool,  beginnings Litecoin since Bitcoin it is more difficult (too much . Devices, and that not always pay off). A program for   pooler-cpuminer Here on this server for $150 in month speed  turned out about 0.07-0.1 megahashes, i.e. about 100 thousand hashes a second. For hardly more than days  0.0007 Litecoin that at the rate of $3.5 made 0.2 cents. I.e. for days the server costs $5 and for these $5 are impossible  even a cent floor. If to buy such fresh-water sponge: for $200 we can  with a speed of 28 M, i.e. for a day the income will be $0.56 (a dollar floor). It pays back herself for days 400 if carries. It without an electricity. ... Still is capacity type in rent https://hashflare.io / where for approximately same price ($180) it is possible to rent  28 megahashes. But when you do not have gland on hands - more risk as the office can be closed and send all. The recoupment turns out about 1 year if carries. While it is all at level of profitableness of banking contributions, but with the big risk. Those who was in time   on cheap stuff and who had enough patience/good luck snipped off a large sum only to sell it on $700. Though with the same success it was possible to buy simply  - the iron price not on much less prices  which this iron can produce. This law is saved till now. An additional direction for research - exotic and rare currencies which use not implemented in . To gland algorithms. But it for the advanced dudes who has time for this. And a question: who was engaged exotic not in mainstream currencies? There is that an interesting? What for currency from Microsoft, there is a sense to look?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> for $200 we can  with a speed of 28 M, i.e. for a day the income will be $0.56 (a dollar floor). It pays back herself for days 400 if carries. It without an electricity. ... Even without a recoupment is use-case bounding with shadow - electric power conversion in  with which it is possible to use in many parts of the world having on hands only the information, without fulfillment of direct transactions. That part which did not pay off - consider the commission.

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Hello, Evgeny. Panasyuk, you wrote: EP> Even without a recoupment is use-case bounding with shadow - electric power conversion in  with which it is possible to use in many parts of the world having on hands only the information, without fulfillment of direct transactions. That part which did not pay off - consider the commission. But after all except the electric power it is necessary also the equipment, it at the price is comparable to cost of currency which produces for all service life. After all the equipment quickly becomes outdated, create more and more advanced if to judge on a tendency of last years (after all began with videocards...).

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> in general,  a majning-pool f2pool,  beginnings Litecoin since Bitcoin it is more difficult (too much . Devices, and that not always pay off).   on  there was the bad idea some years ago, now it generally suicide

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You not that .) Lajtkojn  also late, as well as . On CPU  that specially under it is ground is necessary, it is possible to look at any examples here, for example, - http://cpucoinlist.com/, the list a little become outdated, but somehow to orient in the beginning helps. One year ago tried  on the worker  at night,  still live then Boolberry, it turned out about 2-4 dollars a month.) At a forum there was an algorithm as using  links and discounts at DigitalOcean to pay back a hosting there  Boolberry, getting small profit from each host. And in an amicable way money on  now becomes so: you find any potentially good coin in development, you prepare for start, you rent more capacities and  it much in the beginning while it yet did not start to bargain at a stock exchange, etc. as it becomes popular, starts to be on sale at stock exchanges - all you sell. Speak, pays off, at one my virtual acquaintance accounts on  in 80000 dollars (it that I saw), plus profit beat off.)

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: EP>> Even without a recoupment is use-case bounding with shadow - electric power conversion in  with which it is possible to use in many parts of the world having on hands only the information, without fulfillment of direct transactions. That part which did not pay off - consider the commission. S> but after all except the electric power it is necessary also the equipment, it at the price is comparable to cost of currency which produces for all service life. After all the equipment quickly becomes outdated, create more and more advanced if to judge on a tendency of last years (after all began with videocards...) . It does not change an essence. You paid for the equipment + the electric power, in an exchange received . If it turned out so the total course for you turned out for example twice above than on the market - consider that you paid half as the commission. This variant it not a method to earn, and roughly telling a method to "wash", yes such that your real accounts do not participate in direct transfers abroad.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: S>> in general,  a majning-pool f2pool,  beginnings Litecoin since Bitcoin it is more difficult (too much . Devices, and that not always pay off). I>   on  was the bad idea some years ago, now it generally suicide Some years ago for the sake of interest tried  LTC on powerful, but not so new GPU - something turned out type on the verge of an electric power recoupment. I think after rouble falling in 2014  it became much more favourable, at least - because the price for the electric power expressed in currency fell to short term.

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Hello, Evgeny. Panasyuk, you wrote: EP> Some years ago for the sake of interest tried  LTC on powerful, but not so new GPU - something turned out type on the verge of an electric power recoupment. Yes, in 2014  on GPU hardly paid off. It was more favourable fresh   and at once to merge. EP> I think after rouble falling in 2014  it became much more favourable, at least - because the price for the electric power expressed in currency fell to short term. Complexity grew much more strongly, than the price for an electricity.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: EP>> Some years ago for the sake of interest tried  LTC on powerful, but not so new GPU - something turned out type on the verge of an electric power recoupment. I> yes, in 2014  on GPU hardly paid off. I  in 2013 tried. EP>> I think after rouble falling in 2014  it became much more favourable, at least - because the price for the electric power expressed in currency fell to short term. I> complexity grew much more strongly, than the price for an electricity. Complexity changes nothing in this aspect - it reflects  a recoupment. If with the big complexity much it is not favourable  - that they leave, and complexity will be corrected reversely, or for example the course  grows. In this sense the less the cost price, the in  you plus turns out, and is more competitive. Thus the decent part of the cost price is the electric power. Whether certainly it is necessary to consider appeared ., but it again  does not change an essence - that at whom is such piece of iron and the cheap electric power, will be more effective than that at whom the same piece of iron but expensive electric power.

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The fellow worker,  houses on a minifarm. As told above on CPU terribly . Or something very specific. 3  more less fresh, the computer ancient,  CPU there is not necessary. Something until recently turned out about 10-12 dollars in day. On how many today it is favourable , it is necessary courses and complexity to look, and it changes. Light without the counter. Heats street on the glazed balcony.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> I.e. for days the server costs $5 and for these $5 are impossible  even a cent floor. Yes, on CPU  the sense is not present. S> If to buy such fresh-water sponge: S> Image: ZeusMiner_LIGHTNING_X6_40-42Mh__98880_zoom.jpg S> for $200 we can  with a speed of 28 M, i.e. for a day the income will be $0.56 (a dollar floor). It pays back herself for days 400 if carries. It without an electricity. ... Does not pay back. In due course complexity  grows, i.e. if now the income for day of $0.56 that in 100 days already is, for example, $0.4. S> Still is capacity type in rent https://hashflare.io / where for approximately same price ($180) it is possible to rent  28 megahashes. But when you do not have gland on hands - more risk as the office can be closed and send all. The recoupment turns out about 1 year if carries. S> while it is all at level of profitableness of banking contributions, but with the big risk. Yes. Indeed. S> those who was in time   on cheap stuff and who had enough patience/good luck Snipped off a large sum only to sell it on $700. Though with the same success it was possible to buy simply  - the iron price not on much less prices  which this iron can produce. This law is saved till now. Those who constructed specialized data-centers near to effective power stations snipped off a large sum, do the processors ground specially under  and for the scale account reduce expenses to a minimum.

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Hello, Temnikov, you wrote: T> 3  more less fresh, the computer ancient,  CPU there is not necessary. Something until recently turned out about 10-12 dollars in day. On how many today it is favourable , it is necessary courses and complexity to look, and it changes. Light without the counter About, this it is casual not about it a recent subject the Author: IncremenTop Date: 14.12 23:44?

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T>> 3  more less fresh, the computer ancient,  CPU there is not necessary. Something until recently turned out about 10-12 dollars in day. On how many today it is favourable , it is necessary courses and complexity to look, and it changes. Light without counter EP> About, this it is casual not about it a recent subject the Author: IncremenTop Date: 14.12 23:44? I do not know, there any graters with energetics, did not specify. The fix under the receipt pays.

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I>   on  was the bad idea some years ago, now it generally suicide But if CPU to you got free of charge - I thought from $300 which gave Google, at least 3 dollars on  can be beaten off It appears and 12 cents not . But on a question is what to tell?

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Hello, jahr, you wrote: J> One year ago tried  on the worker  at night,  still live then Boolberry, it turned out about 2-4 dollars a month.) at a forum there was an algorithm as using  links and discounts at DigitalOcean to pay back a hosting there  Boolberry, getting small profit from each host. And why now be not engaged in this subject?

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Hello, Temnikov, you wrote: T> 3  more less fresh, the computer ancient,  CPU there is not necessary. Why not  . Pieces of iron, after all they cost cheaper and produce more?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And why now be not engaged in this subject? At the same expenses of time and efforts to trade more favourably, than  and to program in this area - it is even more favourable.) I and then not  for the sake of money, and understood with algorithm .

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Hello, jahr, you wrote: J> At the same expenses of time and efforts to trade more favourably, than  and to program in this area - it is even more favourable.) I and then not  for the sake of money, and understood with algorithm . But  your attention does not demand a lot of. Adjusted and let hollows.

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S> Why not  . Pieces of iron, after all they cost cheaper and produce more? Where you then will sell them?  always to sell on  it is possible, and  as a rule it is ground under any fixed algorithm. Then complexity grows also happy owners of equipment rooms  remain with a pumpkin. Why the vendor such  does not do them for itself and does not earn on it ton of money, and sells them? Considered, at summer exchange rates and volume  in the summer, it turned out that  paid back itself approximately for 100 + - days.  expenditures on considered.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> But  your attention does not demand a lot of. Adjusted and let hollows. It only if at you is a lot of money and you presume a majning-farm of type of the Chinese.) differently it is necessary to track permanently what  and when it to sell, and how , it demands handling of a large quantity of the information permanently, hardly relaxed, you do nothing - and it is possible to run into a situation when the currency sharply went down in price before you had time to sell it, or there was a new version  on GPU because of what complexity  so that at you almost nothing , or still something happens - and initial nestings did not beat off. Now it is rarely possible months  same without serious nestings, it is necessary to skip all time from currency on currency to remain in plus (as far as I know). But there are, of course, people who it earn, and it is pleasant to them.) But time you is a programmer, is necessary this advantage somehow to use.) for example, it is possible to search for young currencies with such algorithm that  for them is only under CPU, to write for this purpose  implementation on GPU and quickly to cut down a heap of money, launching  on cards. Though it was possible to do it a year-two ago, whether it is possible now - I do not know, I do not track specially.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the subject  here is interesting to Somebody? In my opinion here as with amateur gold mining in real life - getters, and sellers of shovels earn on it not, speaking in images.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> But on a question is what to tell? On a question -  it is necessary , instead of . If available only  to search  for which is not present GPU-majnera.

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Hello, Grayscaler, you wrote: G> In my opinion here as with amateur gold mining in real life - getters, and sellers of shovels earn on it not, speaking in images. Well why, couple of years back I am quite successful , especially during the winter period

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> On a question -  it is necessary , instead of . If available only  to search  for which is not present GPU-majnera. Be not engaged in this subject in details? To what  it is better to pay attention?

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Hello, icezone, you wrote: I> well why, couple of years back I am quite successful , especially during the winter period If heating in the house electrical - that is possible majning-devices  instead of a heater and expenditures for the electric power to write off on heating home. 1  a beret of 1000 W.