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Hello, Kolesiki, you wrote: K> the Cheap bubble. There would be all so simply, for a long time there would be "designers of programs". The good program even typical "a muzzle to basis", the robot does not write. Well so it is necessary to aspire to automate as much as possible everything, and to start to do already designers that the programmer had more a rest.

Hello, Kolesiki, you wrote: K> And what here you automate? Everything that it is possible to make the automatic machine, for a long time sits in libraries, and all remaining is written by hands. Well further, at first to automate hands, then feet, and and a head already...

Hello, Kolesiki, you wrote: K> Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S>> revolution in our craft like the Internet Approaches or a bubble inflate? K> a cheap bubble. There would be all so simply, for a long time there would be "designers of programs". The good program even typical "a muzzle to basis", the robot does not write. While yes, while only so (from here): But what systems which by data And receive the answer In can? There is one rule which helps to realize latitude of application of technologies: if the person can solve any task no more than for a second of speculations, most likely, in the near future technologies of machine intelligence learn to solve it. But then there will be 2 seconds and tramples on an exhibitor. You look also a muzzle to basis to learn to do.

Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S>> But then there will be 2 seconds and tramples on an exhibitor. You look also a muzzle to basis to learn to do. Ops> only time of fastening of AI to the task too tramples on an exhibitor. , here with this complexity, fastening, also will struggle the programmer of years through 10-15.

Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S>> Ugu, here with this complexity, fastening, also will struggle the programmer of years through 10-15. Ops> And a profit in what? If complexity of fastening exponential, and the classical decision is easier? Was specific muzzles to  in what. And here for other tasks about which it is is specific to me, or the mankind generally does yet know, the profit can be. Here cashiers do not become already necessary, autopilots by the machine, the medicine undergoes changes etc. I and asked a question on purpose to understand, instead of whether there are developers, and their big part, behind a progress board? To you under 40 years and bang! all sharply changes also your skills are not claimed any more and you on  with students. It is necessary to understand - to spread to itself in advance or not to spread?

Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> I also asked a question on purpose to understand, instead of whether there are developers, and their big part, behind a progress board? To you under 40 years and bang! all sharply changes also your skills are not claimed any more and you on  with students. It is necessary to understand - to spread to itself in advance or not to spread? So revolutionary discovery you and so , and if  the old approach on our century suffices.

Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> On the other hand very abrupt acquaintance from a msec says that with a head it is not necessary to dive into this business, and the mathematician is useful be knowing nevertheless. Correctly speaks. To raise own qualification always costs. If the mathematics is interesting - dive with a head. If engineering operation is interesting - for critical projects (not the web of muzzles) will always find serious engineers difficultly and they will be always necessary, raise own qualification in engineering sphere (a C ++ and other). But to know that there from AI and what scope of application at different algorithms, costs. At least simply because it is one of few spheres in our area where it is possible to be engaged in researches and not bad to earn. S> It would be desirable to know judgement of the public who that suspects this account. Revolution in our craft like the Internet approaches or a bubble inflate? A bubble too inflate. Those who work from AI, use attention of the public which is not enough that in it understands, and inflate to itself value and importance. If they, say, presented AI as the application-oriented statistics the effect would be absolutely another. It is all absolutely naturally and normally. Yes, the application field will extend. But to expect creation of any superbrain I did not become.

Hello, Sinix, you wrote: S> And quality of the decision and a correctness will correspond "natural" ? S> If yes - gentlemen, we disperse. Looking about what task speech.

Hello, namespace, you wrote: N> What they have the relation to development as a whole? How their knowledge help them to write the accounting program or the driver for ? N> did not work in  or Google, in what your way a precipice? The same people there work. Other knowledge and skills  other area of operation. I will not stop on that moment that average  strong enough engineer in itself. Speech not about it. Simply about 5-10 years ago all programmers were intersected on the same skills - in the core this knowledge and ability to apply algorithms, asymptotics, patterns-figatterny and here it here all. I.e. without dependence from the company people spoke in one language. At  this language owing to specificity of operation was richer. Now, perhaps, there is a passage from kol-va to quality - one part of programmers as a matter of fact will not think any more in categories alg, patterns and here it here everything, and will think in categories of adjustments of all  and the other adjacent. I.e. other skills, other toolkit. While the great bulk of developers as  remains with the same out-of-date productive forces. N> revolution will be, but is not fast (to branch measures). N> it Also will look differently: any housewife on the one hand can program, with another - without knowledge of data domain anything valuable not to make. Here we look

Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> I also asked a question on purpose to understand, instead of whether there are developers, and their big part, behind a progress board? To you under 40 years and bang! all sharply changes also your skills are not claimed any more and you on  with students. It is necessary to understand - to spread to itself in advance or not to spread? Do not worry. To me already under 50, and I continue all . Really to the programmer it is necessary - to be able to read and understand only one skill the instruction. It is not important that there under a cowl - a neural network, so a neural network. The instruction will be just the same - "to make in a fantastic way, push here this button".

Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> : why I revolutionary discovery ? You will not have time In the sense that in advance to be prepared.