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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> To me it is not absolutely clear that means nationalized? Rescued from bankruptcy. S> now like not communism. How the private property right? It when speech about your money. And in bank another's money, instead of yours lies. S> or nevertheless all understand, what the private property right works while it on what does not influence, and here large-scale projects should be state? Simply present for a minute that will be, if Privatbank declare the bankrupt? Presented? S> well and the main thing. The Kolomojsky fool or not? If is not present, foresaw a situation and  it is already empty, that other as a baby's dummy which cannot return deposits at all. Yes not? It the fool. Because problems at Privatbank for a long time.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: S>> Well and the main thing. The Kolomojsky fool or not? If is not present, foresaw a situation and  it is already empty, that other as a baby's dummy which cannot return deposits at all. Yes not? V> It the fool. Because problems at Privatbank for a long time. I do not think that it the fool. Probably simply understood what to catch there is nothing and for a long time already all kindly from Privata deduced. Now the state will try to patch as though holes and upon the next robbery. Still any successful . The project of Poroshenko did not make. And rescue of Privata ruins.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And  did not guess - there is a difference to nationalize and sell. In this case, approximately same, as voluntary and voluntary-compulsorily. S> it that receives from nationalization? It receives life, most likely. The decision on voluntary and peace transmission of bank in possession to the state was accepted while we understood that we can not endure this information attack, and that under the threat there can be our Clients. For those who not in course. "Information attack" are convergence that affairs at bank go so-so. The people with a fright  to draw out money." We can not worry "means that at bank is not present sr-in to give to people their money. And yes, here is useless to try to result arguments of type" they much and on credit distances ". Under live credits it is possible  for a short while (attack not ) anywhere, for example abroad, there a difference in %% essential, i.e. it would be possible to get out, if the balance converged. And it, seemingly, does not converge. I.e., or Benja spent more than earned, or the share of"dead"credits is close to critical, as at L/B with which bankruptcy crisis of 2008 year began. Or both that and another simultaneously.))

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> 2. I see still such question - and there are experts who can stabilize Privat? How much I understood while there are no examples of successful bank after command  there came. I.e. after nationalization to bank most likely the khan. What for to it of the khan? It is not bad debugged mechanism. And the State Bank was necessary to Ukraine for a long time.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As on me so Kolomojsky it is not strongly similar to the good-natured person whom it is simple so presents the bank with all money to the state for the sake of so to say light future. You as think? I think what to give the debts easily and pleasantly. S> hence if it is still live - that already took away the actives, the bank at a deep minus and itself Kolomojsky in Sardinia  on the sun heats. I am afraid, it took away actives and heated a bum all 20 last years.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> the Ministry lets out 30-year-old bonds of an internal state loan on 150  grivnas. Papers will be redeemed by National bank, and the received grivna will "join" the Privatbank capital. VD> [/q] it is cool, it is direct  system. VD>  and only! And where those rams what buy on 150 billion candy wrappers? Buy. When the bad investment climate state loan bonds well disperse. It is good idea in all senses. If they still guessed also national bank to nationalize - generally it would be healthy. VD> In Russian is the press of the provided money means nothing. The loan, on the contrary, rescues from such press. At us and in Ukraine the hryvnia exchange rate does not depend on state of the economy directly. VD> Tomorrow the hryvnia exchange rate should grow up. Chickens are counted in autumn. "Security of grivna" under condition of freely operating Mezhbank in Ukraine is especially psychological . Here macroeconomic laws do not work, stock exchange laws here work. In this sense of "state bond" is a quite good title for a valuable piece of paper, that is, quite good "support", when speech about stockjobbing. On-essence, economic problems of Ukraine - they from Mezhbank. But it is impossible to disconnect it, because IMF it created once and strictly punished  to form course next day under average totals of the auctions of the previous. Here so they hold both Ukraine and the Russian Federation for nutlets. I.e., problems in Ukraine not that the Russian Federation any more does not order at it . All it  on vegetable oil, copecks in shares from gross national product. It was important only for filling of Mezhbank by currency, i.e. for hryvnia exchange rate maintenance. And if to look at macroeconomic and to dream up that this stock exchange is not present, Ukraine is quite capable to provide itself with meal, clothes, energy etc. All enterprises are, demand for operation good, the people  live not the lazy. I.e. Present problems - they especially and only from financial instability because of a knot of course of a mane on this damned currency stock exchange. , it was clear still when the grivna somehow for one day  from course 5 to course 8 and and was not rolled away reversely. I.e. already then it was clear that the hryvnia exchange rate is defined not by economy, and a panic on Mezhbank, i.e. already then vulnerability of the mechanism of economy of Ukraine was visible monstrous (in another way and you will not tell)... But anything with  did not become, morons, (). Therefore, any rupture of the international commercial relations (international), even if there speech about small to measures of Ukraine turns - it very painful, after all this reduction of inflow of the currency, multiplied by the panic caused by this reduction.  a panic there somewhere 10-20. I.e. economy from a panic approximately at 10-20 times more harm, than, , from broken links. Here is how it works for them and that is why the polar fox happened so quickly and practically out of the blue.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And here in long-term perspective grivna falling is almost guaranteed. We look. On-law play Mezhbank private banks can only. Interesting, they rewrite laws or it is such artful method will bypass IMF requirements?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: VD>> In Russian is the press of the provided money means nothing. Tomorrow the hryvnia exchange rate should grow up. S> I do not know into the account tomorrow, can apply stabilizing. Can even temporarily lower as though course to enter the people into confusion.  all of you not about that and not there.)) In Ukraine, by different estimations, under mattresses at the population lies the order ~60 +-10  currencies in dollar numeration. And this digit GROWS every year, washing from economy to half of potential growth of gross national product. The measure considered above on release of state bonds urged to DECELERATE, first of all, growth here this digit, by reset at least parts of annual growth of accumulation of people reversely in economy. That's all cinema.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S>>> Well and the main thing. The Kolomojsky fool or not? If is not present, foresaw a situation and  it is already empty, that other as a baby's dummy which cannot return deposits at all. Yes not? V>> It the fool. Because problems at Privatbank for a long time. S> I do not think that it the fool. And nevertheless. It played in God for a long time already, as Berezovsky once. If dies the death - already achievement will be. S> probably simply understood what to catch there is nothing and for a long time already all kindly from Privata deduced. From bank not so it is simple "to deduce good", especially for short term. It milked its all years, certainly. And here crisis also bared shortage. S> still any successful . The project of Poroshenko did not make. And rescue of Privata ruins.  rescues not Poroshenko. Simply at it  rescue.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> the measure Considered above on release of state bonds urged to DECELERATE, first of all, growth here this digit, by reset at least parts of annual growth of accumulation of people reversely in economy. That's all cinema. And on  in what it should express? What forces the person to get the dollars from a hiding place, to exchange for grivnas and to incur in bank?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> hearings that Kolomojsky already Walk and in live are not present. Who can confirm or ? I can. I confirm.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> From positive scenarios can work only: VD> V.Gosudarstvo, through TV channels assures the people that the state rescues bank, and the population to it checks. VD>... VD> it is necessary so to hope only that Poroshenko will be possible to stop propagation people from exception of means from bank. And how "Who does not hold money in Privatbank, that "? It it is possible to ask after  the SOU-GS. And all will be a way.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: And as sang about . https://privatbank.ua/ru/news/-psevdona … tov-banka/

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. Again Putin copy. It already very long time ago wrung out Russian Privat.

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VD> From positive scenarios can work only: VD> V.Gosudarstvo, through TV channels assures the people that the state rescues bank, and the population to it checks. 1) it only at us listen to 1 channel and trust in that that there speak (and then tell, how here that people simply  do not look tv), in Ukraine. 2) The fact, gos-in takes away bank (considering a situation), says that takes away to draw out, well we look what as a result to turn out. VD> the plan sounded by you not  it is simple because the state will be obliged to pour in many money. At Ukraine simply is not present so much  to cover a panic output of capitals. Many of them after all the currency. You are familiar with a situation to do such outputs?

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> From positive scenarios can work only: VD> V.Gosudarstvo, through TV channels assures the people that the state rescues bank, and the population to it checks. Not, there is still a plan With - enter the legal or actual prohibition of removal of money. As with  in due time. In some years Juli again will have a method ...

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: S> Than it is fraught? 1. For  - outflow of the capital and cash rupture 2. For banks  - loss of the last residuals of trust to them

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > here > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients.  it is the next nail in a coffin of temporal formation under a title Ukraine. The angered Ukrainian people now runs to remove all that else it is possible to remove and not only from Privata. As a result there comes the full collapse of banking system. 150   which pour in in Privat only disperses inflation and once again depreciates grivna. And taking into account crash of banking system it will be .

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: V>> 8. Kolomojsky sells Privat bank and the channel 1+1 and the Author abandons Ukraine: Vain Date: 18.12 20:50 S> And  did not guess - there is a difference to nationalize and sell. It that receives from nationalization? If nationalized, already agreed with Kolomojsky.

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Hello, drVan, you wrote: V>  it is the next nail in a coffin of temporal formation under a title Ukraine. The angered Ukrainian people now runs to remove all that else it is possible to remove and not only from Privata. As a result there comes the full collapse of banking system. 150   which pour in in Privat only disperses inflation and once again depreciates grivna. And taking into account crash of banking system it will be . You will think a problem. But successfully led , , broke links with an aggressor and carefully prepared for integration into EU. Here that is important, instead of your these not clear reasonings. To realize a difference it is necessary to cease to be the system slave as those which enter into mental contact to all civilized mankind by jumping and the recitation .

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Image: Cz_gmeiWgAAUIL_.jpg It is sledge with deer. The Ukrainian Santa Claus under new year stole gifts from children and flies home.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Hello, Vain, you wrote: V>> 8. Kolomojsky sells Privat bank and the channel 1+1 and the Author abandons Ukraine: Vain Date: 18.12 20:50 S> And  did not guess - there is a difference to nationalize and sell. It that receives from nationalization? The right to sell remaining actives and to leave the country? Agree, much.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: S>> Well and the main thing. The Kolomojsky fool or not? If is not present, foresaw a situation and  it is already empty, that other as a baby's dummy which cannot return deposits at all. Yes not? V> It the fool. Because problems at Privatbank for a long time. From the second in any way does not follow the first And it is not so clever to name the fool of the person, at which huge business empire and private army.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And on  in what it should express? What forces the person to get the dollars from a hiding place, to exchange for grivnas and to incur in bank? M. Absence of grivnas in a purse? The cash dispense does not work - spend savings from under a mattress.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Hence if it is still live - that already took away the actives, the bank at a deep minus and itself Kolomojsky in Sardinia  on the sun heats. More likely in Israel...