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Here the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > here > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. > It is Kolomojsky? In article write that all is made "on  workers". I wait  from Voldemar for our Karotta

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: Than it is fraught?

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Than it is fraught? Soon at Vovka business start to wring out

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Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> it is fast at Vovka business start to wring out What business at it? What there to wring out? Here suggest to share, taxes a drop seem.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. > hearings that Kolomojsky already Walk and in live are not present. Who can confirm or ?

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> the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. Kolomojsky any more a pie!!!

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Than it is fraught? On the one hand, PrivatBank - the largest bank of Ukraine where about 40 % of percent of all deposits are stored, there is serviced mass of corporate clients and other organizations (for example, all our account ). On the other hand, it is rumored that all actives deduced for a long time already from PrivatBanka and there there were only promissory notes. So, mine  about that can be further: * In short-term perspective. For some days (can be week) while will be the new administration is entered and to happen nationalization, the bank will not work. To such itself a present to people for New Year. It will be interesting, if people now run to draw out money from other banks and to be launched chain reaction. * in intermediate term perspective. Further, when he earns in the full mode, two scenarios: (Or there will be a panic and the full collapse of bank if people run to draw out money and to take away deposits. I nevertheless hope that it does not happen, since then crash of all - all the same Privat too big bank that it a distance simply to go bankrupt is possible. () the State adds money to stabilize a situation and all will be more or less quiet. * in long-term perspective, from negative consequences: () I personally do not think that Privat will be successful as the state bank so it or gradually degrades (it it will be a pity since at them services quite good online), or it in due course liquidate, or privatize. () to fix holes in bank (well, or to pay guaranteed contributions, looking as affairs go), the state should contract debts (= to print money), inflation will accordingly be dispersed and the hryvnia exchange rate, etc. grows

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: Wrung out? There one debts. Actives of Benja all deduced.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > here > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. > 8. Kolomojsky sells Privat bank and the channel 1+1 and the Author abandons Ukraine: Vain Date: 18.12 20:50

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> the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. 1. I saw hearing that agreed to disperse peacefully. I.e. Kolomojsky will not be at war with Poproshenko. The question in that, how many will be actives and how many debts. There is a sensation that the considerable part of actives (including money from ) is already deduced. And there it is a lot of debts. 2. I see still such question - and there are experts who can stabilize Privat? How much I understood while there are no examples of successful bank after command  there came. I.e. after nationalization to bank most likely the khan. 3. If at Privata will be  who receives its share? Whether it turns out, what the Russian banks (Sber and the Alpha) increase a share in the Ukrainian market?

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Than it is fraught? Here it is a main point. To me it is not absolutely clear that means nationalized? Now like not communism. How the private property right? Or nevertheless all understand, what the private property right works while it on what does not influence, and here large-scale projects should be state? I was absolutely tangled. That said one that communism and nationalization of the enterprises angrily. That now another. Well and the main thing. The Kolomojsky fool or not? If is not present, foresaw a situation and  it is already empty, that other as a baby's dummy which cannot return deposits at all. Yes not?

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> 1. I saw hearing that agreed to disperse peacefully. I.e. Kolomojsky will not be at war with Poproshenko. The question in that, how many will be actives and how many debts. There is a sensation that the considerable part of actives (including money from ) is already deduced. And there it is a lot of debts. As on me so Kolomojsky it is not strongly similar to the good-natured person whom it is simple so presents the bank with all money to the state for the sake of so to say light future. You as think? Hence, if it is still live - that already took away the actives, the bank at a deep minus and itself Kolomojsky in Sardinia  on the sun heats.

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> 3. If at Privata will be  who receives its share? Whether it turns out, what the Russian banks (Sber and the Alpha) increase a share in the Ukrainian market? The share will be increased by the International Investment Bank. Because its owner - "the strong master" (Vovka-carrot. And Sber and the Alpha from Ukraine expel.

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Hello, Vain, you wrote: V> 8. Kolomojsky sells Privat bank and the channel 1+1 and the Author abandons Ukraine: Vain Date: 18.12 20:50 And  did not guess - there is a difference to nationalize and sell. It that receives from nationalization?

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Hello, Sammo, you wrote: S> 3. If at Privata will be  who receives its share? Whether it turns out, what the Russian banks (Sber and the Alpha) increase a share in the Ukrainian market? Well here with .. The inhabitant that is me. From  Privat24 was necessary to me only. For payment of purchases in a network, transfers WU, a currency exchange and so forth Where still there is such convenient system?

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Hello, Sharov, you wrote: S> Than it is fraught? Well, in the normal state it even would be good, as the bank was problem, but on it has been fastened a country floor. And here in conditions when the country is transformed in bank with spiders-karakurtami is is fraught with the next war between oligarchs. Kalomojsky will explicitly revenge. Plus all can appear not so simply.  time and again said that "Privat" is organized rather artfully. Even servers and those do not stand in locations of Privata, and are controlled by the independent company. So not the fact that  does not transit without consequences. The bank can collapse or have problems during release or is immediate after it.

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Hello, Jeffrey, you wrote: () Or will be a panic and the full collapse of bank if people run to draw out money and to take away deposits. I nevertheless hope that it does not happen, since then crash of all - all the same Privat too big bank that it a distance simply to go bankrupt is possible. () the State adds money to stabilize a situation and all will be more or less quiet. From positive scenarios can work only: V.Gosudarstvo, through TV channels assures the people that the state rescues bank, and the population to it checks. The plan sounded by you not  it is simple because the state will be obliged to pour in many money. At Ukraine simply is not present so much  to cover a panic output of capitals. Many of them after all the currency. Behind a panic in Private the panic and in other banks inevitably begins. Then there will be a collapse or a hyperinflation. () I personally do not think that Privat will be successful as the state bank so it or gradually degrades (it it will be a pity since at them services quite good online), or it in due course liquidate, or privatize. It not a problem. It can quickly saw. () to fix holes in bank (well, or to pay guaranteed contributions, looking as affairs go), the state should contract debts (= to print money), inflation will accordingly be dispersed and the hryvnia exchange rate, etc. grows And here it is a problem." Contract debts "your state simply cannot. It drove itself a situation of a technical default in which the IMF under pressing of the USA can give money only. But even if such pressing follows (what not the fact, in the conditions of a victory of Trampa, and today will be voting of electors), IMF it is the slowest officialdom. It cannot simply produce the credit in an emergency mode. Unless there will be a miracle and absolutely any Soros will be burned, giving a floor of the state on worry. But in it it is trusted hardly. Printing of money is the most realistic output, but it sharply leads to a hyperinflation and if the percent of currency obligations is great also it does not help. It is necessary so to hope only that Poroshenko will be possible to stop propagation people from exception of means from bank.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> it is necessary So to hope only that Poroshenko will be possible to stop propagation people from exception of means from bank. You understand that taking into account trust all its words can render to the president opposite effect?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And  did not guess - there is a difference to nationalize and sell. It that receives from nationalization? Freedom if does not sit down. The matter is that 1.5 year ago in Ukraine operation on plundering  of given IMF has been led. Technical implementation was such. 1. The IMF puts money in  Ukraine. 2.  it is used on hryvnia exchange rate stabilizing that upon means - it is distributed in banks. 3. The hryvnia exchange rate to dollar has been almost fixed. 4. Inflation in the country walked rates not below 20 % (in annual numeration). 5. Banks amicably started to put rates to 30 % (besides in a year). 6. Possibilities simple mortal on grivna conversion in dollar/euro have been restricted. 7. The sickly percent undertook conversion in currency and its removal not. A difference of course and percent attracted money of mass of suckers decided to earn additionally on the described nonsense. Restriction on conversion in currency and its removal led to that only people with  deduced in time money in full. Replenished  gave the chance bankers and other approached to the power in time to deduce currency. Most likely one of these lucky persons was also Kolomojsky. And so such circuit can have only two decisions: 1. Sharp devaluation of currency so that the exchange rate caught up with its inflation. 2. Falling of banks as money in banks does not remain. In other words -  suckers. In 1998, in Russia there was something similar. Then the scenario 1 has been selected. In Ukraine selected the scenario 2. Now one is interesting to me only. Whether protects ruin of investors from the scenario 1. Or Ukrainians receive also a hyperinflation, and  investors? After all thus it is possible to remove from "suckers" much more as some become suckers twice.

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > the state in the name of the Ministry of Finance becomes the owner of 100 % of actions  Privatbank and guarantees uninterrupted functioning of this establishment and saving of means of its clients. Well, you there keep! (

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > a subject Rushed: http://times.dn.ua/news/fresh/privatban … ka/269515/ "Privatbank" stopped payments of corporate clients till Tuesday

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > the Subject

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Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > savings of means of its clients. https://inforesist.org/smi-soobshhili-p … platezhey/ as it was possible to clarify to agency, according to the government decision, the state on 100 % becomes the proprietor of bank. The ministry lets out 30-year-old bonds of an internal state loan on 150  grivnas. Periods of release and volumes of packets while are unknown. Papers will be redeemed by National bank, and the received grivna will "join" the Privatbank capital.  and only! And where those rams what buy on 150 billion candy wrappers? In Russian is the press of the provided money means nothing. Tomorrow the hryvnia exchange rate should grow up.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD>  and only! And where those rams what buy on 150 billion candy wrappers? So  also buys Same in the form of an order. VD> In Russian is the press of the provided money means nothing. Tomorrow the hryvnia exchange rate should grow up. I do not know into the account tomorrow, can apply stabilizing. Can even temporarily lower as though course to enter the people into confusion. And here in long-term perspective grivna falling is almost guaranteed.