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Hello, pestis, you wrote: P> I for , but hamsters do not understand. . P> If the child is not necessary neither to own parents, nor relatives, volunteers it does not have chances to become a normal member of a society. For all it will be better than it to lull without serious consequences. Such society is worthy . P> You consider that it is necessary to draw out money from a financing of education for healthy children and to direct it on patients, and patients hopelessly? You did not look the report - there money does not suffice also normal schools, military school any. I for that  the deputy was not in 50 times more  nurses.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Not, I start with the assumption that at you different lines of thought to different authors/posts, it is generally normal and  It would be strange, if it was just your logical error it cancels.

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S>  . The worker in 6-7 thousand roubles cannot be justified anything. To Libya write the salary of the nurse was nearby 1000$. And here on -300 to be spent were greedy. And how many the Libyan nurse now receives?.

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Hello, susumanin, you wrote: S> Che-to any strange speech at the public prosecutor if to make  it turns out: S> "Children perish in boarding schools because there is no money for nurses and at nurses the big loading and small  and as though the guilty are responsible according to norms of the law, but you understand that officials and their budget" actually are guilty. Can because of shortage of money of nurses it is simple is not present? That is stupidly to work with children there is nobody?

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> Hello, tyomchick, you wrote: T>> Be curious the prices for oil in 90. S> the price for oil in 90 has What relation to allocation of resources by the state in 2016? Any. I to that the appeal to experience 90 is to put it mildly incorrect. Money was not neither on  nor on children.

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Hello, Basil2, you wrote: S>>  . The worker in 6-7 thousand roubles cannot be justified anything. B> to Libya write the salary of the nurse was nearby 1000$. And here on -300 to be spent were greedy. And how many the Libyan nurse now receives?. And the USSR on -300 was not greedy... And generally false alternative.

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Hello, Dair, you wrote: D> Here you are real to buttons got to the bottom. Aha, it sometimes causes cool response.

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: What for with 99, what for with 1241 or what for to compare? The last question as I considered till now, should not arise at the person having higher education - to pass from absolute categories of type "all awfully, plaster remove, the client leaves" to relative, like "here it and here it on such parameters became is worse/is better, than was, and it is caused, most likely, here by that and here that". With digits, certainly. No. It is cheap enough demagogical reception - attempt to justify an existing awful state of affairs that was even worse 20 years ago. To compare  nurses it is necessary with  the regional deputy and the deputy .. S>> I here too consider, as Russia not so correctly spends resources. And I consider that we should base a colony on Mars in the beginning of the last century. But when I start to compare the intuitive sensation to a reality of 1905 - the ends do not converge with the ends slightly. Well so look at a reality: how many the deputy . today receives, in how many managed zenith-arena, football players of prime minister-league, etc.

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Hello, the Laid-back person, you wrote: Can because of shortage of money of nurses it is simple is not present? That is stupidly to work with children there is nobody? It very much can be. Then unless the institution manual should not close it instead of be engaged in rendering of services not meeting the requirements of safety (or how there it on clever is called)? And that turns out all all arranges while somebody does not die, not? Where Office of Public Prosecutor was earlier?

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Hello, susumanin, you wrote: S> If the person goes to perform operation, and then  - that what put a coma how many it there received and how many there at it operations. What it for justifications such - pay and "too many children" a little? You understand, children on the Internet it not "project", they cannot wait while the necessary resources will be selected, it is necessary to look after them every day. The director on a place solves this task those means which are. Present a situation: people work, all is more or less normal, then the budget truncate, boarding schools , loading increases multiply, and  thus decreases. Employees know that if they leave, to children will be even worse: to find changeover very difficult, sometimes generally it is impossible - anybody does not go. They also work contrary to logic and market laws. Certainly to follow all norms it is impossible in such conditions. S> you when were arranged - you knew where you work, how many at you operation and as for it pay. Any wonderful speeches. S>  is not present, I just that what there the budget to expand and deepen that that all nurses would receive as ah  and so on. Only here these attempts to find the justification of a negligence somehow surprise me As some people are far from life...

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: Demogagichesky reception is to compare IQ Skoroduma with IQ Stephen Hokinga and to do on this base an output that by Skorodum-de the full fool because at Hokinga is longer above. Comparing of changes in time of the same index is quite lawful method of analytics. At you IQ, as well as , distribute from the same source? The interesting theory... Well or at least it is necessary to prove that such comparing is incorrect in view of any events for this time frame of revolutionary changes. It is necessary to you - you and prove In 2016 average  the deputy - 389 thousand roubles, and  nurses under the report of the public prosecutor decreased from 20 thousand to 6-8 thousand. Can result digits for 90, only they in any way do not justify this awful situation, even if the disproportion will be more (that hardly). S>> Well so look at a reality: how many the deputy . today receives, in how many managed zenith-arena, football players of prime minister-league, etc. Well and, sorry, that? The state spends resources not correctly. You wanted capitalism - here it such, this capitalism. It is possible to call "liberal" me still. Too working reception. Or you think, what when in any England built any Old Trafford, and in Brazil Marakanu, to children of poor men at them there strongly were is better? It is not interesting to me that you think of England or Brazil. Well and it is anyway not clear, at what here expenditures on  and involvement of the USA. The USA there is nothing, and expenditures on  - very much even. Though it not the first article, expenditures on which can be optimized.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> They also work contrary to logic and market laws. Certainly to follow all norms it is impossible in such conditions. S> as some people are far from life... They work, because know that it of anything for what will not be, neither to a manual, nor low medical staff. A maximum - dismiss, they in a week will be arranged in the same establishment in the neighbourhood. If the person knew that for an assumption of a negligence it should on 10 call in years in known places, I would look at their unconditional love to children.

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: Here is how time at us from the different. You try to fall down it in one heap , expenditures on , expenses for building of stadiums and the kopecks half-received by poor children. In this case the heap is are shared locations of the state, budgets of all levels. Executive power does not have any problems in reallocation of resources at own discretion. S>> it is necessary to you - you and prove Ok, and we write down - at opponents of the data for comparing is not present... Write down Is better that the burden of the proof lies on stating you try 90 to justify, so result though any digits showing improving of a situation with extremely non-uniform (and wrong) allocation of resources. In considered the public prosecutor tells rollers about financing reduction. S>> the state spends resources not correctly.... Accordingly, and it is possible to send the outputs drawn by them safely on walk. Strongly.

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: To begin with it would be quite good to prove that this reallocation is necessary. For me the public prosecutor already made all Though for you, to see, loss of children it is normal Then - that it is necessary right now. It was necessary yesterday: the public prosecutor speaks about cases of loss of children. Well and then, in quality  on a pie - what to sacrifice for the sake of it it is necessary . To begin with expenditures . on football,  deputies and expenditures of local officials. S>> write down is better that the burden of the proof lies on stating Ok, see above and begin. You can still GlebZ call to yourself in the help if itself you will not consult. You already 3rd or 4th time try to become personal in the absence of arguments and a distinct position. All your position - not to admit criticism of executive power at any cost. What for?

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S>>> write down Is better that the burden of the proof lies on stating>> Ok, see above and begin. You can still GlebZ call to yourself in the help if itself you will not consult. S> you already 3rd or 4th time try to become personal in the absence of arguments and a distinct position. All your position - not to admit criticism of executive power at any cost. What for? A question not in executive power. The HARDWARE to unwinding threw idea that troubles of children in Irkutsk - from involvement of the Russian Federation in war in Syria and as a whole because of expenditures on . 90 an excellent example because it was time, it depends time expenditures on  have been cut down below a plinth after similar  80 (that all economy works on , it is necessary to cut off all and then we begin to live).

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: With impatience I wait for a comparative analytics on a situation in those days when money on  did not leave. Well, year so with 1999, for example. It is assured that local unbiassed liberals who so are excited with destiny of children in the Russian Federation, with pleasure give it. Here like to expostulate any mythical liberals 90. Always very much it would be desirable to ask, and who they, these liberals? Whether the candidate for terms of the Political bureau of the Central Committee of the CPSU the President of the Russian Federation B.N.Eltsin and  the Chairman of the Government V.V.Putin? Just in case I will remind, if who forgot." Damned 90 "began that in the country is banal there was nothing to guzzle, and economy liberalization became a unique variant of a survival. That is, in other words, ceased to put for autocratic manufacture and trade. Here it" ceased to put "and all liberalism was restricted. If to speak about the power it both in the late eighties, and in the late nineties, and now all as was in hands old sovok   and special services, and remained.

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Hello, GlebZ, you wrote: GZ> While finance the next Arabian country, together with war, aircraft carriers and insurgents, and also execute laws  - the report on Irkutsk area. I wait, now patriots start to reflect about Ukraine and these are the USA are guilty that money leaves on . It is sad for the Irkutsk region. Pleases that there are such people. Not as you, of course, and as general Buneva.  Periodically I see as on  raise money for the next operation in the West to any child. Each time I am spat. Would raise money for medicine support, etc. at us is better. On it and I would give.

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Hello, tyomchick, you wrote: T> Be curious the prices for oil in 90. Admire the prices for oil in 50. And the country grew and developed.

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Hello, pestis, you wrote: P> It is possible  the text, what this bald head there broadcasts? "Bald head" - judging by words the excellent general. And it is necessary to listen to its words completely. Truth they are addressed deputies, but nevertheless. Briefly: says that deputies in the Irkutsk region  on children and children invalids.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S>>>  . The worker in 6-7 thousand roubles cannot be justified anything. B>> to Libya write the salary of the nurse was nearby 1000$. And here on -300 to be spent were greedy. And how many the Libyan nurse now receives?. S> and the USSR on -300 was not greedy... S> And generally false alternative. The USSR it also did not help, it yes.

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Hello, Patsak, you wrote: Let's call things by their proper names, without euphemisms - total . I remember, how was in crisis of 98th. On the one hand, "terrifying", but on the other hand, nuts are not twirled and there is some freedom of manoeuvre. All sharply began to fuss on a subject of what such sharply to produce or than such it is powerful . And the problem turned in not sickly such space of possibilities. For those, of course, who wants.... It was suddenly clarified that filled  "the free market" not in a state as it was promised, all quickly to adjust... And it is the standard cyclical logic of the Russian historical process. When next correcting  all under a zero , it is necessary to reduce degree of majestic greatness and to allow  to live a little bit the mind. As a result the country is sensitive revives and there is rather chaotic heyday. Great fulfillments of any, but to the people as a whole it is nourishing and good. When the potential is recovered by the natural,  wake up and feed it in a fire chamber of imperial greatness. And so on a circle of hundred years.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S>  . The worker in 6-7 thousand roubles cannot be justified anything. It not the salary, and a salary, and minimum. According to federal statistical observation for 2015, as a whole across the Russian Federation the monthly average salary made:... The educational, medical organizations or the organizations rendering social services to children-orphans and children without parental support, - 29 729 roubles... Social workers - 19 766 roubles. Too , of course, but it is not necessary to distort.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote:> With impatience I wait for a comparative analytics on a situation in those days when money on  did not leave. Well, year so with 1999, for example. S> at what here 99 year? It is possible and to compare with 1905 or 1242, only what for? If we want to understand, how much military expenditures affected the salary  it is necessary to take the last year before their sharp growth, not?

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: S> And the USSR on -300 was not greedy... Well so, thank God, the NATO also did not attack the USSR.

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Hello, Skorodum, you wrote: P>> In comments correctly noted, at the public prosecutor bombs that guilty it was not possible to find. S> It marvelously the normal report which fairly names the reason of problems: from the state I here more than once wrote low priority of the given task - occasionally personally I happen in children's homes in the and adjacent regions, including in a boarding school for invalids. And so - children there as cheese in oil go for a drive, financially money though flood. A principal problem - they there all fleet is boundless, and the justice on them any is not present. And at generals of money, your mother, no. On 132 workers one doctor and two nurses - what, a bough, there do remaining 129 persons? On the personal tutor on each child or what? It is More than hundred freeloaders, and to children it nothing to eat?