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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> rear admiral F. Fomin (in the past - the fighting commander, seems the Hero of Soviet Union) was One of the first with whom I considered this project. It has been shocked by "cannibal" character of the project and noted in talk to me that military seamen got used to struggle with the armed opponent in open fight and that for it the thought on such massacre is disgusting. I was ashamed and more never with anybody did not consider the project. [/i] further Suntsov told:" In 1962 I have been caused from Leningrad to Moscow by the chief of 6th control of Navy fleet engineer-vice-admiral Fominym Peter Fomichem. It was the outstanding public figure among an administrative board of Voennomorsky Fleet: in its guiding there was all naval nuclear ammunition, the nuclear polygon on New Land submitted to it.  caused me to guarantee performance of research and development operation as he told, extreme importance. The purpose of this operation was compilation of a design procedure of a damage which can be put the territory of the USA an artificial wave of a tsunami caused by underwater explosion of a powerful thermonuclear charge. The range of the trotyl equivalents digit 100 of megatons was which upper bound has been produced. My attempts to state that this invention does not lead to strategic effect, caused anger of Fomina. It has been told that I understand nothing that this idea belongs to academician Lavrentevu. He, academician Lavrentev, considers that the wave of type "tsunami" from powerful underwater thermonuclear explosion can cause the considerable damage of the most part of territory of the USA. And Lavrentev wrote already about it the report to Khruschev. Nikita Sergeevich became interested and commanded to understand and report... After all it was time of the Caribbean crisis, and the world stood on the verge of global thermonuclear catastrophe. To use in these conditions a thermonuclear 100-megaton charge it was rather seductive. And if still to consider the report of academician Lavrenteva and response to it Khruschev business was very much and very seriously... ". The initials do not coincide, but I think it one person - Fomin, Peter Fomich... <<RSDN@Home 1.2.0 alpha 5 rev. 1495>>

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0> it would be correct a subject to name "Kirk against Fomina". But so it does not turn out to change concept.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> There is in  "Memories" one very known fragment: As into the account of three artificially organized , at the USSR organized, the most humane on light the power

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Hello, VovkaMorkovka, you wrote: VM> Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M>> There is in  "Memories" one very known fragment: VM> As into the account of three artificially organized , at the USSR organized, the most humane on light the power if them really organized, you here now did not write, so appease already

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Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: IT> Though the Alpha which has been given the order on liquidation  is more than me , but it sabotaged it. Unless they not  should liquidate?

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> There is in  "Memories" one very known fragment: To me other fragment was engraved in the memory. An hour military warehouse filled up underground, and it led 9 years in loneliness being drawn by duty under the charter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LppOXvajIuA here it is the present Russian character and that that the ridge is called.

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> To me other fragment was engraved in the memory. An hour military warehouse filled up underground, and it led 9 years in loneliness being drawn by duty under the charter. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LppOXvajIuA > Here it is the present Russian character and that that the ridge is called. In Prague, in "the Prague official newspaper" I too read about one  stories, it is even better than this. There it was told about  doctor Joseph Vojane. It served in Galicia, in the Seventh  to a regiment. When business reached bayonet fight, the bullet got to it to a head. Here incurred it on dressing point, and it as shouts that does not allow itself to tie up because of any scratch, and got again with the platoon into attack. During this moment to it tore off a foot. Again wanted it to carry, but it, leaning against a stick, hobbled to a line of fight and a stick began to beat off from the enemy. And here take and arrive a new grenade, and tore off to it a hand,  that in which it held a stick! Then it threw this stick in other hand and shouted that it it does not transit for nothing! God knows than all it would come to an end, if  does not lay down it on the spot. Probably, it too would receive a silver medal for valor, do not finish it . When to it took down a head, it still some time slid and shouted: "the Debt hasten, the soldier to execute the even if the death soars over you more soon!"

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Hello, snautSH, you wrote: SH> the bullet got to it to a head. When brains are not present, a bullet in a head it not a problem. And if it is serious, speech in these two cases about different situations. 9 years it very much a wide interval of time for one person. Some change the outlook and without exterior circumstances, including is simple because at them the realized sight at the life generally is not present.

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Hello, VovkaMorkovka, you wrote: M>> There is in  "Memories" one very known fragment: VM> As into the account of three artificially organized , at the USSR organized, the most humane on light the power And how about acts of terrorism against the inhabitants of Donbass organized in the last two days? Organized most most  the power which accuses the previous power of insufficient humanity?

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Hello, snautSH, you wrote: VM>> As into the account of three artificially organized , at the USSR organized, the most humane on light power SH> if them really organized, you here now did not write, so appease already Ogo, even you noted it? O_o

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SH>> if them really organized, you here now did not write, so appease already M> by Ogo, even you noted it? O_o Ogo, can still will result my citation where I state the reverse? Or for you all who does not agree with a batch line 100 % always and everywhere it is enemies?

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Hello, Vasisualy Pupkindt, you wrote: > To me other fragment was engraved in the memory. An hour military warehouse filled up underground, and it led 9 years in loneliness being drawn by duty under the charter. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LppOXvajIuA > Here it is the present Russian character and that that the ridge is called. 45 minutes something long to look. It that, not , and a real case? Than it ate 9 years, where 9 years spoiled, at least?

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Hello, Vasisualy Pupkindt, you wrote: > And if it is serious, speech in these two cases about different situations. 9 years it very much a wide interval of time for one person. Some change the outlook and without exterior circumstances, including is simple because at them the realized sight at the life generally is not present. If it is serious, this sentry filled up underground. Therefore this history is closer to Robinzonu Crusoe, than to soldier's duty performance more likely. And it is strange that it for so much time did not try to be dug out.

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Hello, neFormal, you wrote: F> Hello, IncremenTop, you wrote: IT>> Though the Alpha which has been given the order on liquidation  is more than me , but it sabotaged it. F> unless they not  should liquidate? No. They should liquidate Yeltsin in the White House.

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> When brains are not present, a bullet in a head it not a problem. > And if it is serious, speech in these two cases about different situations. 9 years it very much a wide interval of time for one person. Some change the outlook and without exterior circumstances, including is simple because at them the realized sight at the life generally is not present. , the label sarcasm all the same is necessary. But I will explain - my citation to that your link the same poppycock as well as the story of Shvejka

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Hello, snautSH, you wrote: SH>>> if them really organized, you here now did not write, so appease already M>> by Ogo, even you noted it? O_o SH> Ogo, can still will result my citation where I state the reverse? Or for you all who does not agree with a batch line 100 % always and everywhere it is enemies? Well, you very serial opponent  in the Russian Federation the power, also were made steady impression that for you "any enemy of my enemy - my friend"

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SH>> Ogo, can still will result my citation where I state the reverse? Or for you all who does not agree with a batch line 100 % always and everywhere it is enemies? M> well, you very serial opponent  in the Russian Federation the power, also were made steady impression that for you "any enemy of my enemy - my friend" Well so result citations, I still wait. Meanwhile you write nothing confirmed

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Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> 45 minutes something long to look. It that, not , and a real case? Than it ate 9 years, where 9 years spoiled, at least? https://www.moya-planeta.ru/travel/view … mlej_9775/ it there was a big warehouse so to eat was than. The person did not despair and continued to draw duty despite of everything. Weekly changed clothes, lubricated the weapon etc.

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Hello, Marty, you wrote: M> where 9 years spoiled, at least? Cave explorers you know? Well and in a warehouse there could be any infrastructure on this subject... Much more interesting that he drank, but underground water often meets, on the other hand...

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> In this case matter is not in "a teardrop of the child". In that situation there was no hero. A> nobody knows that would be, if won . And how many to the people would perish in this case. If saved the Union of victims would be 10 times less, but in itself saving demanded a faith in the state and its ideals, and here with it at that time there were problems. Therefore it also failed, though which where not without a deceit, as in the east of Ukraine, for example. There that people voted for Union State with Russia, and Crimea deceived, personally Kravchuk. However swine from  it appeared so many that sufficed on each "union republic" where do not stick - the swine. , Snegur... etc. With P.S.Kuda do not stick the swine launched civil war.

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Hello, VovkaMorkovka, you wrote: VM> Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M>> There is in  "Memories" one very known fragment: VM> As into the account of three artificially organized , at the USSR organized, the most humane on light the power Yes it is fine to you the USSR, it already sank into oblivion, well you do not see I booze the victim for hunger of the people of the Volga region that eliminates the version with a genocide, and is fine. You here that tell, now in the free Ukraine ruined such amount to the people that any  not to keep up. What so badly that? With humane that the authorities?