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skyANA wrote:

And with Node.js can look on Express .

So I understand it ) it is necessary  though node.js to esteem) and then for  to undertake)
But for many thanks links! Very much pieces of good advice give also links. As a matter of fact could tell simply: - "Google to you in the help" also would be right

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If to do sites in an inexpensive segment on a hosting there it is frequent   (at all the seventh, and the fifth), instead of fashionable  with map-redjuzom and closings. Oh confused - with  and . Oh it can same.
And in a segment of programmers which work on , it is necessary to penetrate still. Or on ruby with rails. Or on scala too it is possible.
Can in the course of time  and captures the world, but we live now. In a korp-segment it is a lot of  and , in a segment of e-commerce shops and blogs it is a lot of PHP and client javascript.
However, it's up to you.....

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AlexZombi wrote:

Good evening. And here in examples of programming for Node JS it is frequent on the client for sending AJAX of requests use JQuery. Now there is something more fashionable for these purposes or it is possible to pull simply function for AJAX from JQuery and to allocate in the js the unit?

Do not listen to anybody, use jQuery

AlexZombi wrote:

I still JQuery did not study for a moment read only,   I saw there functions for search of the nearest node with such tag, for example closest (). And here for these purposes now than to use fashionably or most such function all time to write hands?

You push aside react, there slightly other philosophy of operation about the HOUSE. A problem only one, even a month 2-3 you cannot write lines. Will install and adjust a work environment, to understand who for what answers and as it is all should work together.

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Not mandatory at once , well why  and only ? It is possible with ancient to begin, from understanding MVC in javascript,
https://www.google.ru/search? q=mvc javascript
Though on backbone.js to look. Well simply to understand, how the ideology, a mode in  developed.
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And generally, if to start to do a page to itself, she prompts itself. That wants or it, or it wants nothing. To make one more page about the way to learning here this all, which already more than  (((((((well there will be one more. The Internet does not burst. Began a portfolio....

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mage.lan wrote:

do not listen to anybody, use jQuery

Already solved) I will undertake for jquery)

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mage.lan wrote:

the Problem only one, even a month 2-3 you cannot write lines.

)))

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BootStrup uses JQuery. Probably, the sense in it is.

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And  books to esteem do not advise, whether it became fashionable already that?

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Vladimir Baskakov wrote:

though on backbone.js to look. Well simply to understand, how the ideology, a mode in  developed.

If to select between  and  the choice is obvious. jq even it is more mvc, than , though both to that and another to mvc as on all fours to . It is good that prototype to a companion did not offer.
On the other hand to spend the time for organization MVC for a web on javascript - pure , the tool does not approach also a pattern very much for a web brake and unsuitable.  to that bright acknowledgement.

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AlexZombi wrote:

And here in examples of programming for Node JS it is frequent on the client for sending AJAX of requests use JQuery. Now there is something more fashionable for these purposes or it is possible to pull simply function for AJAX from JQuery and to allocate in the js the unit?

Is. fetch () is called. It is built already in the majority of the modern browsers so if to you from jQuery it is necessary only AJAX it is possible and to manage without it (yes, for those browsers which do not support is ). Here here can esteem.

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mage.lan wrote:

On the other hand to spend the time for organization MVC for a web on javascript - pure , the tool does not approach also a pattern very much for a web brake and unsuitable.  to that bright acknowledgement.

It yes. But I personally as would not like to recognize that that the concept the controler from MVC in JS misses.
So  in a dustbin I would not become.))

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Var79 wrote:

and  books to esteem do not advise, whether it became fashionable already that?

About books normally in a subject write that a subject about books.

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mrWolf wrote:

Is. fetch () is called. It is built already in the majority of the modern browsers so if to you from jQuery it is necessary only AJAX it is possible and to manage without it (yes, for those browsers which do not support is ). Here here can esteem.

For not strong minds  - a deadly piece.
For example, I do so
I describe the adapter which carries all  about request and a name (it is easy  for tests API)

Airy.adapter (
' order.mml-bonus-forecast ';
{
url: ' web/orderEditor/mmlBonusForecast ';
params: function (params)
{
return params && params.guid
? params
: {
guid: Store.guid;
mmlGuid: Store.mmlGuid
};
}
}
);

which lifts given not the automatic machine, can pull the adapter somehow so (strongly from fetch differs?)

Airy.find (
' order.mml-bonus-forecast'
).then (
function (model)
{
this.model.forecast = model;
this.readiness ();
}.bind (this)
);

Method find I  will not be, I will tell only that it pending pulls a method of the adapter and to me it is unimportant, as the adapter, through fetch $.ajax or XHR is implemented.
It is the normal system, all my adapters lie in one place and are easily supervised, all "new" inventions force the people  directly in the logician, on 100 times palming off , the data not , there is no possibility to supervise all requests and generally to read source codes.

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mage.lan wrote:

it is passed...
If to select between  and  the choice is obvious. jq even it is more mvc, than , though both to that and another to mvc as on all fours to . It is good that prototype to a companion did not offer.
On the other hand to spend the time for organization MVC for a web on javascript - pure , the tool does not approach also a pattern very much for a web brake and unsuitable.  to that bright acknowledgement.

Well anyway, there are two ways, , and .  on small projects only , it is true; and on the big save lifetime. To the big projects clear business, it is necessary to grow. JQuery does not impose any structure and usage method - in it it both plus, and a minus.
The same it is possible to tell all and about a server part - it is possible or  as it would be desirable on any everything, or on it to take a certain structure, and to live in its frames. It is possible to draw manually a heap of pages, and it is possible to use CMS.
If to take ready structure - attention focus drifts from a question == how to make? == what tags, , attributes, on questions == that, what for ==.
It seems to me that the beginner does not need to ignore disciplining force of concepts and .
But, I in this part of programming not the pro, so - an opinion of the layman.
That ask now on interviews and use on life - not especially in course, in the  - pure jquery, i.e. I too the backward person.

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All thanks!

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vdekameron wrote:

it is passed...
So I want... Here only for convenience wanted still jquery to try to master and then to search for operation.... To begin with on  probably. And you here tell that it not actually.  food to me for speculation. Therefore also came here behind council for the piece of good advice happens  only. People of type know you which ate not one pood of salt where it is necessary to turn and where are not present. And about ES2015.... When read javascript turned on this branch. I understand that it is the modern path but it is far not in all browsers it normally works...

I wrote: "jQuery is the last century, on it write" ever less.
And more and more write on ES2015, React, Angular, Express... As to   supports it not a problem, use Webpack + Babel (https://learn.javascript.ru/modules).
Want to learn jQuery? Learn. But quickly, also do not stop on this library.
And I would advise to search for operation now already, look, what really knowledge is required.
Also can test on a site https://www.freecodecamp.com/
There long to be registered, but then detailed and free course after which you become Frontend Developer th, or Backend Developer th, or if the patience, Full-Stack Developer th suffices smile

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skyANA wrote:

Also can test on a site https://www.freecodecamp.com /

And that it for a resource... What "the detailed and free course")) means) something happens free now?)))

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vdekameron wrote:

it is passed...
And that it for a resource... What "the detailed and free course")) means) something happens free now?)))

You to begin with esteem, and if there will be questions ask.

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skyANA wrote:

you to begin with esteem, and if there will be questions ask.

Interesting if with English on "you" that there to be put there is no sense? Here I read... I try to register.
That I understood all - they free of charge train. But thus you as a matter of fact work on them... You carry out any jobs for the noncommercial organizations. For it you receive the certificate. If you suffice, as you told to  (to transit 2000 hours) then they offer you on operation. I correctly understood all or something distorted?
But the most important barrier turns out it is language.

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vdekameron wrote:

But the most important barrier turns out it is language.

The most important thing in our trade at present is the nobility of Angl of a language
English in times is easier than Russian therefore not  if did not learn  at school. Simply incorrectly taught.
Do not know from what to begin - begin with course from Hope Happy - "". But like there is even more simple at it.
As the site lingualeo.com helps, buy http://lingualeo.com/ru/course/grammar, lingualeo in materials is top 1000 words, take learn.
Approximately 3000 words are enough what is comprehensible to read IT the literature

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vdekameron wrote:

it is passed...
Interesting if with English on "you" that there to be put there is no sense? Here I read... I try to register.
That I understood all - they free of charge train. But thus you as a matter of fact work on them... You carry out any jobs for the noncommercial organizations. For it you receive the certificate. If you suffice, as you told to  (to transit 2000 hours) then they offer you on operation. I correctly understood all or something distorted?
But the most important barrier turns out it is language.

Not truly... You do not work on them... Jobs there identical to all. At first simple, and then the small training project.

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skyANA wrote:

it is not true... You do not work on them... Jobs there identical to all. At first simple, and then the small training project.

Well I already started to transit. Well in the beginning a kindergarten "Daisy wheel" html tags  , selectors.
And here I recalled your words.... "If the patience")))) suffices
Do not prompt there on each subject time is led out.... If I interrupt occupation and I will come in 2 hours? Happens nothing

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vdekameron, happens nothing smile

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Here   from  smile

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skyANA wrote:

Here   from  smile

Yes now I look one knowledge javascript, html and css will not be full))) That on that  to call me yet one year it is necessary to tinker)