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InterSky wrote:

Yes, now understood that it ZFS (the Hot reserve).

is not present, it is such file system. It has not something in common with a hot reserve (hot spare).

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InterSky wrote:

it is passed...
Looked, on their site, like even some models of type TS-531X and TS-451A were pleasant, and in them even mail is, but is not present a uniform mention about ZFS and Hot Spares. Plus very much frightens their politician with licenses. Any function is suddenly necessary, and it like is in it NAS, but on it the license is necessary by above cost most NAS.

https://www.qnap.com/en-uk/enterprise_apply_v2/con_show.php?op=showone&cid=10 wrote:

The Turbo NAS supports comprehensive RAID types thus provides IT administrators great flexibility to arrange a proper data protection level. Based on the number of hard drives of different Turbo NAS, IT administrators can choose from RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 5+hot spare, 6+hot spare, and 10+hot spare configurations.

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WildSery wrote:

it is passed...
Or all of them were from one batch, and took off by turns after several years of operation, or you had an unworkable equipment which spoiled disks.

1. And you not   disks, also will not take off.
2. Spot-check an array is not high-grade protection of the information against failures in the equipment. Users share on 2 those groups which do backup copies and those which will do backup copies. There are many systems of automatic backup including free. The example such at you failed the power unit and you of the winchester became a metal piece.

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S.G. wrote:

it is passed...
If in spot-check to deliver  disks yes, they will "take off" under loading. That is, with a disk happens nothing, but because of answering delay to spot-check, spot-check at some instant considers that a disk not the worker.
Therefore - buy  disks for spot-check, for example WD red and will not take off.
About from what to do NAS - if want ready, here: https://www.qnap.com/en/there there are all types raid + "hot spare", but all terribly expensive.
If most, I can advise http://www.openmediavault.org/ it free of charge and on the basis of Linux. Truth I do not know, whether there is there all that is necessary for you.

Already more than 10 years use  disks out of need in spot-check thus even on  where loading reading record lasts on hours 18 and  did not fail. That I do not so. Black  it a desktop but they work stablly.

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On  there was article according to embarkations of disks in what that .
On the price does not depend practically __. There are good batches of disks at each vendor, and there are unsuccessful.

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InterSky wrote:

It is necessary as mail and a file server for small firm.
The main criterion - that provided automatic changeover taken off of  a disk.
And that all somehow come across only simple RAID5 or RAID10 which are not especially useful to office usage.

The HARDWARE you joke?
Spot-check 10 is and 1 is not present?
You likely scoff at us. 10 spot-check is 1 and 0 spot-check in steam
I did not note such miracles on sale.

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Gogy555;
Topic subject, you, certainly, did not read.
Make it now!

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Siemargl wrote:

On the price does not depend practically __. There are good batches of disks at each vendor, and there are unsuccessful.

(on the basis of preliminary tests) vendors just also mark Good batches of disks  "for ", and sell more expensively.

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WildSery wrote:

it is passed...
(On the basis of preliminary tests) vendors just also mark good batches of disks  "for ", and sell more expensively.

I about the same. That the sticker does not influence results of practical maintenance.

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Gogy555 wrote:

Already more than 10 years use  disks out of need in spot-check thus even on  where loading reading record lasts on hours 18 and  did not fail. That I do not so. Black  it a desktop but they work stablly.

Che-to is not present trust to words gray  which in NAS instead of silent and cold disks put noisy and hot, and also write together "any" and do not put a question sign in the question end.

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WildSery;

wrote:

(on the basis of preliminary tests) vendors just also mark Good batches of disks  "for ", and sell more expensively.

Dashing.
And with , casually, for "normal boys", do not sell?:D
There are no "preliminary tests".
Is cool  where these disks put and  at the installed levels of temperatures and vibration.
By results unworkable - throw out.
It if is a question of disk testing as finished article, instead of its completing (the controler, pancakes, mechanics) separately - but also there not selection is fulfilled, and certain parameters are put even at designing.

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a_shats;
Give, tell  that in the same WD Black, Purple, Blue and other pancakes different are used (with the registration of one density).

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a_shats wrote:

By results unworkable - throw out.

Between completely serviceable (ideal, in the nature do not exist), and completely unsuitable just and there are all remaining.
.. As informs that half of pancakes too use!

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WildSery;
I not without reason made a reservation that meant disks as the whole products, instead of their accessories.
That to "different pancakes" - is not present, - it is a little distinction in the mechanic, it is a little in electronics, it is a lot of - in insertions.
It only in the beginning, in the first series of disks at  after "division" of disks on Enterprise and Consumer, they differed only insertions, now the further - the more than differences.

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a_shats wrote:

now the further - the more than differences.

there are more than differences - manufacture is more expensive.
Less listen to experts in marketing about "differences".
Differences there only in a controler insertion, by and large.

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WildSery;
, I will listen not to "experts in marketing" from Xyratex which produce that equipment for testing of disks, namely you!!!

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a_shats;
These are which of  gemmated to test own equipment? Certainly without any engagement and the conflict of interests.
Listen to everybody, me all the same.
Here only it is not necessary to flood that vendors multiply branches of manufactures.
Now everybody to aspire to standardize all for manufacture reduction in price, and the same goods to sell in the maximum number of segments, cutting off any functions.

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WildSery;

wrote:

It is which of  gemmated to test own equipment? Certainly without any engagement and the conflict of interests.

, forgive?
bought Xyratex - there was a business. But Xyratex was the developer, the vendor - not only the equipment for testing of disks, by the way, at all - it is strong for a long time before purchase by Sigejtom.
But you continue to search for engagement and the conflict of interests an eagle eye, you look and something turns out.

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a_shats;
I just do not track, who there whom bought.
Confirmed my words that the main difference - in an insertion, but continue to defend someone's judgement on rising differences in the mechanic and gland.

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WildSery wrote:

about rising differences in the mechanic and gland.

Rising they or not - I do not know. But among more hundred disassembled (there is at us on operation such entertainment)  and server disks we never watched the identical mechanics between different rulers. Perhaps, simply did not carry...