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Sergesha m-music
You though in course that for  a sound except . Acoustics and  the digital-to-analog coder with preliminary  is necessary? You though in course that connecting . Acoustics to this magic lezhashche-standing device, you simply broadcast on them the same stereosignal, as in the main speakers? It also is called .
You, of course, excuse, but at you any full porridge. Digital-to-analog coders s are built already in additional acoustics. These are the active columns with all that it implies. Signal handling (function of a preamplifier), with splitting on channels, incurs itself  in which there are for this purpose appropriate built in codecs.
and  have to each other no any relation.  is a multi-channel sound. In a mode  the system plays smart audio as a normal multi-channel recreation center. Itself  is possibility of a dial-up of acoustics to play synchronously one and that (or different) music in different rooms of the house. From here and the title multi room - "is a lot of rooms". All is controlled in modern  systems very conveniently from one application on the smart phone.
In smart audio systems  and  are two various an operation mode, practically in any way with each other not connected.

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Manichaean
It at you porridge in a head. That you state that the panel by air separate  back channels throws on . Columns, and those already in analog translate them and strengthen. And there and then about that function of a preamplifier on itself takes the panel. Here it is porridge and is. Actually the panel itself decodes,  in a stereo and translates in analog a numeral signal, and a stereo the analog throws this on columns. Any . Even that on . Acoustics the panel can send the channels processed its any own neural  anywhere in manual is not told words. Open a manual and quote though one adjustment peculiar  to system (for example, regulation  the back channel).
This panel only also can what to play same  in a stereo music (cinema) itself and on wireless acoustics.

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Sergesha m-music
That you state that the panel by air separate  back channels throws on . Columns, and those already in analog translate them and strengthen. And there and then about that function of a preamplifier on itself takes the panel.
And what, the preamplifier on yours should not decode a signal on separate channels? I about its this function wrote. And here gain?
And to transmit a signal it not is mandatory only by air should. Itself Sleepyheads recommends wire connection of a central device to a network. Through it already then by air the signal on backs, and at all directly with  also is broadcast.
Actually the panel itself decodes,  in a stereo and translates in analog a numeral signal, and a stereo the analog throws this on columns.
You confuse two various modes. The sleepyhead has mode Wireless Surround, and there is other mode Wireless Stereo is different modes.
http://songpal.sony.net/en_ww/help/basic03_3.html
Here is how the system in collection works:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php? … 1475495444
Besides as analog there also does not smell, the signal is transferred to columns on Ethernet/Wi-Fi, and in any way on analog. I how you by air transfer analog would like to look? Even  is and that digit. Or you think, what Sleepyheads taught columns acoustic waves of separate channels to catch and then them to strengthen?:D
Anywhere in a manual it is not told words.
The modern manuals are written for teapots. There only the necessary minimum, it concerns all vendors.
Open a manual and quote though one adjustment peculiar  to system (for example, regulation  the back channel).
In smart audio systems all these actions become with the help  applications. At the Sleepyhead it is called SongPal. Read the application description, there all is. You at first understand, as all it works, and then already attack. By the way, the given wireless columns can as backs and with Sony STR1070 receiver to work. Want to tell, what it on them too drives a stereo?
And please sing small. It is not necessary to be rude, the yard keeper differently comes and all disperses!

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flashgc
And where you  stick this? I on TV near the plug for the antenna have a plug similar to optics/koaksil with inscription SUB. It not it?

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Manichaean
A budgetary receiver with budgetary columns which it is far not the fact that "will be unambiguous better, than on that  from the Sleepyhead.
It is the absolute fact.
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Manichaean
There is still a problem of the central channel through which there is a great bulk of dialogues. In  it too is not removed, more often, completely, but there this channel though is reallocated between other speakers.
, it is similar at a system stereo. And at a receiver even if to use 3.1 these problems at all will not be. It if well would not be desirable to hang up backs at all.
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Sergesha m-music
It also is called .
I think that  it all the same slightly another wink It when the system provides sounding of the same audio of a material in different locations. Here  usage of the second zone, now here Denon Heos advances the. Type, a source one and you can  a sound in different rooms.

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Manichaean
In general, except reading  about technologies generally, read manuals of devices for which are put.

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Chudik
It is the absolute fact.
Whom fixed? Be so kind as, specify researches in this subject.
And at a receiver even if to use 3.1 these problems at all will not be.
It yes, about that also I tell, but this problem is not so sharp, that for the sake of it to buy the big, not esthetic, heavy gluttonous box with a heap of superfluous channels, inputs/exits and wires.
I Think that  it all the same slightly other It when the system provides sounding of the same audio of a material in different locations. Here  usage of the second zone, now here Denon Heos advances the. Type, a source one and you can  a sound in different rooms.
So. Only the second zone in receivers on the former depends on wires. And modern  systems wireless, and on a functional are much fuller than receivers. It is possible to play one and that music all devices (them can be though), it is possible different in each room, it is possible to make tens so that music accompanied from a room in a room, and LyZhy have still a function of interception of music from the smart phone on house system when the master comes home. Scenarios there can be a set and they can program be added, new insertions as it happens with  at the Sleepyhead. It is a part of the new concept of the clever house, the Internet of things, in its best displays.
Only Denon here not and. This  the first Sonos twirled, and then, after success of its system, picked up LG both other large and small vendors.  there rather it was late connected, though and before the Sleepyhead.
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Sergesha m-music
In general, except reading  about technologies generally, read manuals of devices for which are put.
In general, you at least understand those terms which use, and that heap everything, and no representations have about what speak. Especially transmission of an analog sound to back columns by air was pleasant to me wink

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Manichaean
Transmission on a radio channel of an analog sound amuses you? Heard nothing about really wireless acoustics?
Apprx. Here I is not right. I understood that Sleepyheads numeral bljupup/vi-fi system TsApa with the amplifier and the built in speaker in each column, instead of wireless acoustics. Deformed all terms in a pursuit for... Well, yes let it pass.
Now stick me with a nose into a manual  you panels where it is specified that the panel can decode a multi-channel sound and send on additional columns back channels of 5.1 tracks and mixes side with back channels of 7.1 tracks. Where their loudness, distance to the listener is regulated, phasing and other, what is necessary for listening  of a sound?

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reload3d :
flashgc
And where you  stick this? I on TV near the plug for the antenna have a plug similar to optics/koaksil with inscription SUB. It not it?

Too here it is interesting...:lol:
And Main and Sub with a thread on your TV are more similar to inputs for the companion. To instructions should be written about them.

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Manichaean
Actual researches which would prove your point of view what even the bad component recreation center is better than any, even good and expensive .
At first, we speak about system of a comparable price range.
Secondly, nobody will conduct such researches. It is enough to compare characteristics of amplifiers of class D of that level which is applied in TV, "a recreation center from ",  with characteristics of amplifiers of class AB.
However, arguing is senseless enough. I hope that the HARDWARE descends in the same  and listens to possible variants.

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Lately the best branch!! Read as the novel:D
On two pages found sensible thought - at everyone the taste and the ears:

Chudik :
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In Peter there is one quite good desk in which it is possible to listen to different variants.
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There is and  on any purse
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And concerning an inexpensive dial-up of a recreation center
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And I about it asked you?:confused:
He/she is the author of a subject yet does not know that it is necessary to it. And that it is necessary to me, I know for a long time.

[off] Here one "" about modulation  got... If by air that already with modulation... And that that gives a microphone to you? Amplitude-frequency modulation, is not present? If I am mistaken, correct. And without a microphone can preserve a sound (a film, vinyl, digit)? [/off]

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reload3d
flashgc
And where you  stick this? I on TV near the plug for the antenna have a plug similar to optics/koaksil with inscription SUB. It not it?

In optics. There and it is written - digital audio output (optical)
Marked on a photo:
http://i.imgur.com/gdewUlv.png [off] (462x588, 365.5Kb) [/off]
http://i.imgur.com/IcSOs82.png [off] (592x436, 355.8Kb) [/off]
All that is connected in optics, can play parallely with TV speakers.
The Bonus. it is possible to add in a consequence columns through 3.5mm . In this case built in speakers will be disconnected, and  continues to work and actually it turns out 2.1. Advantage before  in this case that it will be possible to space apart columns far away from each other and to gain more notable a stereo effect.
And even if you decide to buy a receiver and acoustics this  does not go on a dump in a consequence, and can quite be sung with budgetary hi-fi system.
Alternative. still there is a variant to buy wireless  from Sony and to have an opportunity to adjust a crossover cutoff through TV menu that is more convenient, but essentially is more expensive (3.5  vs 10 ). At such price already there is a sense to take  and not to be soared with this separate .
I all it to that - the question price cheap, even for experiment.

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flashgc
That this  does not go on a dump, and can quite be sung with budgetary hi-fi system.
Not [del]  [/del] it will be sung. It is checked up.
It is given the father of the little man to whom put, for connection to TV. From TV all is normal.

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Chudik
At first, we speak about system of a comparable price range.
Well so it was necessary to begin with it. And that all here at forums compare sour with soft, and then shout: "Saundbary a sediment! A recreation center from a box - a sediment!". And that the component recreation center of a budgetary class is a same sediment, but only is more expensive, which else to install and adjust it is necessary, nobody stammers. Simply all repeat as  ours: a component recreation center is better. Only forget to add "good (and not cheap) a component recreation center".
Plus to that, 95 % of the population this component recreation center is absolutely not necessary, neither good, nor bad, on for money, for so, owing to living conditions, unwillingness  and so forth
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Work to stick to a subject lifted by the HARDWARE, instead of reasonings on that that  is not worse than partite components of gain of the Av-class with appropriate acoustics. On this debate we complete.
Well so you with it it is strong at the wrong door. At all I began this dispute. And with you this "debate" besides did not enter. It entirely your initiative.
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alexbeer
If by air that already with modulation... And that that gives a microphone to you? Amplitude-frequency modulation, is not present? If I am mistaken, correct. And without a microphone can preserve a sound (a film, vinyl, digit)?
Well so again, note, not I here raised a song about "contemptible digit". The sensation that for some "digit" is a synonym of all of bad that is on the earth. Besides that they for some reason do not want to listen to a grand-dad's record player smile
Therefore it is absolute with you it agree: at everyone the taste and the ears: Give on it all and we stop to be measured by watts and decibels, and we give  possibility to understand most that to it is closer on the form factor and the price, and on what it is ready to spend the blood.

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flashgc :
In optics. There and it is written - digital audio output (optical)
All that is connected in optics, can play parallely with TV speakers.
The Bonus. it is possible to add in a consequence columns through 3.5mm . In this case built in speakers will be disconnected, and  continues to work and actually it turns out 2.1. Advantage before  in this case that it will be possible to space apart columns far away from each other and to gain more notable a stereo effect.
And even if you decide to buy a receiver and acoustics this  does not go on a dump in a consequence, and can quite be sung with budgetary hi-fi system.

[off] Here it also is - "from  and sticks".:lol: Though  it is simple to impropriety. [/off]

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Manichaean
I think, it is better not to use words of type "sediment". There are specific technical characteristics of any device on which it is possible to compare devices about one price range. There is a possibility prowhispers.
In an amicable way, at first it is necessary to define sounding of those or other components entering into the given budget. Then to listen to that quits for it within limits a little and to understand, that offers more budgetary variant is ready to pay a difference for other sound or enough.
At me such was, when selected to itself columns. Yes, more expensive sounded better, than cheaper (except, perhaps, one case), but at that point in time I was not ready to pay more, and the difference in sounding was less, than a difference in the price. There is a certain level of equipment where improvings in a sound become less proportional to the price.
95 % of the population this component recreation center is absolutely not necessary
Unconditionally, millions flies cannot be mistaken.:gigi:

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Chudik
Unconditionally, millions flies cannot be mistaken.
[off] Matter is not that "flies" are mistaken. The matter is that at "flies" other needs, rather than at elephants. To a fly to live, it is necessary on some orders of less amount of food, than to an elephant. Whether does it a fly defective? (And it not to mention that elephants cannot fly wink) And still if all elephants die out, in the world changes nothing. And here without flies there comes catastrophe. [/off]

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[off] Manichaean
To the Fly to live, it is necessary on some orders of less amount of food, than to an elephant.
And the meal such that already has been once eaten and processed by an elephant:D [/off]

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[off] Chudik And the meal such that already has been once eaten and processed by an elephant
All of us from this, finally, are made smile So-that it is not necessary . [/off]

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Tojvo Glumov
I will come up with seditious idea, but at the budget to 25 thousand river there is a sense to look on high "" like Edifier R2700 (less) or R2800 (more). Will be more bulky, but on quality it is for certain better  for the same price.
Too, by the way, a variant. I forgot it to mention in the beginning, but in a head as one of possibilities  films it too always is present.
Only if to take Ediki for cinema I would take better S730D to 25  or S530 to 15  - in these sets a subwoofer very good. Probably best of all multimedia acoustics. R2700/R2800 nevertheless it is more for .  theatrical model at them S760D, but for its present price list it is already possible is more interesting to try to find something. Though for accessible on sale mass  S760D certainly peak.

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Tojvo Glumov
To play  the TV set somehow  never... I.e. on dips on a joint it is possible to spit.:lol: and in TV-sound  not so that it is a lot of bass.
Connection to an ear output or to optics means farewell  and . Besides, at  only one, i.e. a sound from all devices it is necessary to start up an input through TV and only the Allah knows that there at it on an ear or optical output quits. In general, at comparable with  to the price  at potential  soundings have some real hemorrhoids in maintenance. sad

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alnash
To Play  the TV set somehow  never...
Yes it is fine, at me now in a drawing room the TV set with . For a friendly sit-round gathering as a background sound suffices for eyes and for ears. Truth more often directly  on  I start up - at it the player, a wire network and  is. But sometimes and through the TV set. The V-general, without a difference if  is the bass suffices. When it would be desirable to listen to music thoughtfully, I listen in an office on a stereosystem or in good earphones.
is an illness, all should be moderately, and also in compliance with the purposes and tasks.
Tojvo Glumov
Judging by appearance S730, with small satellites and a subwoofer
And you do not judge on appearance, this set not bad though it not under music, and under cinema is ground sounds.
Connection to an ear output or to optics means farewell  and .
It yes, though and so at half of vendors these standards are implemented through one place. Actually they while and did not become the general-purpose standard which would not depend at all on implementation.
In general, at comparable with  to the price  at potential  soundings have some real hemorrhoids in maintenance.
Well, so they, mainly for computers formed. Therefore you are right, for the TV set at the restricted budget  or the box recreation center will be better, than . Though on a sound high Ediki also are good, and at playing  760th model and normal volume can give optics.

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Manichaean :
...Well, so they, mainly for computers formed. Therefore you are right, for the TV set at the restricted budget  or the box recreation center will be better, than . Though on a sound high Ediki also are good....

it is cool, and I and did not know that at computers and TV sets the different physics of a sound! I will consider further smile