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Topic: I want to deduce a sound from TV and Playstation through something it is better, than TV columns

Greetings, I not so understand it, therefore created a separate subject since abrupt system 5.1 or 7.1, etc. probably it is not necessary for me.
, there is Sony KD49XD8077 TV set, from it look films from a house computer through DLNA, plus youtube, Netflix, etc. directly from TV. Sometimes it would be desirable to listen to music with  through TV (here it conveniently - we push the button on the panel, in hearing we speak that all is necessary also already plays, therefore it I use much more often than a separate row standing muses. Center). It would be desirable also to continue to do it through AndroidTV on my TV set, there convenient vocal search and all is customary.
Also there is Sony PS4 prefix connected to it TV.
It would be desirable to indulge itself with a sound better, to buy something with two big columns (probably floor) that it will be possible to include easily in this system and always to deduce a sound from TV and PS4 through new columns. It would be desirable to avoid at once problems that from TV the sound is deduced through new columns, and with PS4 all also through speakers of TV.
What it is possible to buy and how to connect to avoid the above described problems? More than two (well a maximum 4) columns are not necessary to put not where also wires superfluous are not necessary. The budget approximately to 25 thousand. It is possible and more, but super quality is not necessary for me, I not the judge, simply would be desirable to refine a current sound. I appreciate more likely, that brought home, all included and at once earned once and for all.
Whether generally for 25 will really buy something that unambiguously better a sound from TV? I so understand it at least two columns and the amplifier in a set should be?
In advance thanks for answers.

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reload3d
Whether Generally for 25 will really buy something that unambiguously better a sound from TV?
It is some variants:
1) Saundbar Soundbar - as alternative of a recreation center
2) the Stereoamplifier with columns the Choice of a sheaf the amplifier-acoustics
3) Something of type of it:
http://www.lg.com/ru/audio/lg-LHB675
http://www.samsung.com/ru/consumer/tv-a … W-H5500/RU
http://www.salonav.com/arch/2013/04/062.htm
https://market.yandex.ru/catalog/56153/ … how=aprice

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Manichaean
Thanks,  an interesting piece
And from point 3, there connection always will be to TV? With PS4 there is a singularity, it Pro, there 4 HDR therefore to a TV set is connected through enhanced HDMI port, accordingly it would not be desirable to connect PS4 Pro on HDMI where or except TV because after that not the fact that on TV will go 4 HDR. For  recommend so to include: a prefix in ,  in TV.

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reload3d
And from point 3, there connection always will be to TV?
All depends on what outputs are in your TV, but the optics that on everyone should be.
With PS4 there is a singularity, it Pro, there 4 HDR therefore to a TV set is connected through enhanced HDMI port, accordingly it would not be desirable to connect PS4 Pro on HDMI where or except TV because after that not the fact that on TV will go 4 HDR. For  recommend so to include: a prefix in ,  in TV.
With all remaining so. Cut a prefix into TV, and therefrom a sound on columns or  on optics, a coaxial or HDMI (if such separate output at TV is). There at columns from 3rd list it is a lot of . Possibilities is, especially at LG is present home theater with support of various network technologies.
At Attitude Uno and Samsunga too is  and operation possibility in a mode  for smart phones.

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reload3d
Sony KD49XD8077, from it I look films from a house computer through DLNA, plus youtube, Netflix, etc. directly from TV.
5.1 or 7.1, etc. probably it is not necessary for me.
If to look only news and films to 70-80 years of the last century then precisely it is not necessary

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Chudik
If to look only news and films to 70-80 years of the last century then precisely it is not necessary
Yes that you speak? wink To you from California, probably, more visibly, at you there Hollywood near by. But if to look still something except blockbusters in actual fact it appears. As without 5.1 it is quite possible to live.

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Manichaean
Without 5.1 it is quite possible to live
[video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Z0foYnYxQ [/video]

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Chudik
You, probably, inattentively read the message  concerning the budget and all remaining. So-that we heard you, if on business there is nothing to tell, transit, be not delayed. smile
Or to you in yours  branches it became boring? wink

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Manichaean
Probably, inattentively read the message 
Just attentively: 5.1 or 7.1, etc. probably it is not necessary for me.
I consider that it is a little incorrect, for worsens an involvement into action. All modern films act in film with a multi-channel sound and are calculated for its usage on the side of the spectator. Even teleserials. The same Netflix transfers 5.1 all rather new films.
The budget - generally concept extensible. Purchase of various recreation centers from a box, no less than  finally only increases expenditures as the user quickly understands that it  is better, than built in speakers of TV
And itself TV in cost 75 (model 2016). We tell softly, not the most budgetary. To buy to such device plastic means of a sound playback (for to name it columns)... What for then it was necessary to buy qualitative TV. :-\
The normal recreation center has no relation to .

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Chudik
I consider that it is a little incorrect, for worsens an involvement into action.
The involvement into action more all worsens plastic a plot the majority of the modern blockbusters. And the surround sound is as 3D in the TV set - was a little played and more special attention do not give.
If the plot good, and a sound qualitative enough, powerful and pure special attention you do not give that, whence a birdie chirps: from front left corner or because of a back.
The Same Netflix transfers 5.1 all rather new films.
"The same Netflix" is at you in California. And at us in the old manner -  wink At the best ivi.ru and megogo
As the user quickly understands that it  is better, than built in speakers of TV
And here I say that qualitative , a stereosystem or even (svjat-svjat) the recreation center is much more better, than built in speakers of TV. At least owing to subwoofer presence / normal low-frequency speakers (and not only). And I state it on the basis of personal experience.
And not all want to make a fuss at themselves from a receiver, wires and additional columns.
And itself TV in cost 75 (model 2016). We tell softly, not the most budgetary. To buy to such device plastic means of a sound playback (for to name it columns)... What for then it was necessary to buy qualitative TV.
Your knowledge of plastic, apparently, are restricted by 80 years of the last century. Now there are quite qualitative breeds of plastic:
http://www.sony.ru/electronics/saundbary/ht-st9
Others and are more expensive than that TV:
http://mu-so.ru/muso.html
https://market.yandex.ru/product/135460 … ;nid=56156
big_smile

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Manichaean
"The Same Netflix" is at you in California. And at us in the old manner - 
We read attentively:

I look films from a house computer through DLNA, plus youtube, Netflix

And what,  new films go to a stereo? I somehow see a multi-channel sound more. Frequently and HD.
I state it on the basis of personal experience.
You are surprised, but I too. Itself was delivering the mother-in-law c the sister-in-law soundbar from LG. A C separate wireless , even with the back speakers, connected to it . All from the same setting: not all want to make a fuss at themselves from a receiver, wires And is cheaper, than a receiver with acoustics.
Certainly, sounds slightly better the built in speakers, but it is far to a recreation center even initial level.
Now there are quite qualitative breeds of plastic
Well, well, smoothly passed from 25 to 75 :laugh:
You not work as the seller?
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Manichaean
Others and are more expensive than that TV
, you either cowards put on, or a dagger remove.
That stand up that it is necessary to the author of a subject , or offer something design where the exterior design, instead of a sound is as the corner-stone put. But with the appropriate price list.

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Chudik
I somehow see a multi-channel sound more. Frequently and HD.
So modern  and box recreation centers and it can. Even stereoset LG LHB675 mentioned above multi-channel HD supports codecs and virtualizes in a surround sound (though and not such volume as at systems with backs).
Certainly, sounds slightly better the built in speakers,  it is far to a recreation center even initial level.
Here only it is not necessary to heat for a recreation center of initial level. That stuff still, is worse than others qualitative .
Well, well, smoothly passed from 25 to 75

I to you am simple on an example illustrated the thesis that  can be very qualitative (and expensive). After all you began it about: "and and itself TV in cost 75 (model 2016). We tell softly, not the most budgetary. To buy to such device plastic means of a sound playback (for to name it columns)..."
Or I did not understand also you recommend to buy to it TV a qualitative component recreation center for 25? Where you such found, if not a secret?
You not work as the seller?
Counter question, you not in salon Hi-Fi work as the seller?:D and that painfully persistently receivers advertize.
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Chudik
That stand up that it is necessary to the author of a subject , or offer something design where the exterior design, instead of a sound is as the corner-stone put. But with the appropriate price list.
Generally Mu-So it is not so much design, how many tonal quality it is known. But I do not offer its author of a subject, I to you suggest to reconsider the sight that the qualitative sound can be only from the big heavy box with wires. And you, probably, again read on a diagonal.

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Manichaean
Stereoset LG LHB675 mentioned above multi-channel HD supports codecs
Well, this all a program way becomes, that not to support.
Not such volume as at systems with backs
From
Here only it is not necessary to heat for a recreation center of initial level. That stuff still, is worse than others qualitative .
I under a recreation center meant a receiver with columns hardly above the most budgetary. And "their recreation centers " unambiguously differ nothing from .
You recommend to buy to it TV a qualitative component recreation center for 25?
I anywhere did not speak about a component recreation center for this money. I said that the budget - concept extensible and TV for 75 has the right to that the decent sound has been connected to it.
You not in salon Hi-Fi work as the seller?
At me to info it is written, than I am engaged. If it you really interests.
And that painfully persistently receivers advertize.
Note, I only suggest to look in this side. And here you zealously enough rushed to offer a heap of variants.
reload3d
In Peter there is one quite good desk in which it is possible to listen to different variants.
audiomania.ru
There is and  on any purse
http://www.audiomania.ru/soundbar/
And concerning an inexpensive dial-up of a recreation center
http://www.audiomania.ru/home_theater_s … s5805.html - as a matter of fact a receiver of initial level with acoustics
Any recreation centers from LG, the Panasonic, Samsung there is not present
Both different receivers and acoustics.
I would suggest to descend and listen there.
before it Torments and results of a choice or as I selected to myself a receiver
The blessing a technique  feeblly depends what is selected - , a recreation center or component system.
Adding from 12/7/2016 16:56:
Manichaean
I to you suggest to reconsider the sight that the qualitative sound can be only from the big heavy box with wires
And I about it asked you?:confused:
He/she is the author of a subject yet does not know that it is necessary to it. And that it is necessary to me, I know for a long time.

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For 75 I bought a TV set because the new TV set in apartment was necessary, it would be desirable to buy PS4 Pro well and to have a look that from itself represents 4 and HDR. At such setting of a choice especially was not. Here the question, not in that how many money is, and how many is ready to spend this or that thing and for the sake of what. Considering that and the sound from TV suits me, simply under new year it wanted to itself to present something, here it was thought instead of whether to buy something on a sound that films and games were played on more abruptly) to Buy "columns" even for 50 a toad smothers, for me it  a barrier, at me many years cost any quite good muses. Panasonic center, so I of 90 % of time used  the columns connected to a computer to lose mp3 because so is easier. Not the judge I absolutely. Plus now to me to place on apartment of 5 or 7 columns  it is not necessary, a maximum near TV.
Now I tend to this piece of Sony HT-CT790, 4 supports, so on idea through it it is possible  PS4 Pro, plus pleasant counters of type to lose music with
Or to go some other way and to take on sample LG-LHB675, , or something from Attitude in the same price category (20-25 thousand). They healthy, look imposingly) cost cheaper to play as I understood will be not worse  . , whether that confuses TV a sound with PS4 the automatic machine will drive through these columns, something on the Internet everyone write that can and not convert, plus quality can be worse and so forth
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Chudik
For  thanks, I will call in I will listen as it in live to all sounds

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Chudik
Well, this all a program way becomes, that not to support.
And at your favourite receivers as it becomes? A mechanical way? wink Or all by means of those program codecs? Simply in one (more simple) case with dynamics receivers are carried out in back, and in other (more difficult)  it is necessary to build a sound field pattern adjusted for that all speakers are in one plane.
I under a recreation center meant a receiver with columns hardly above the most budgetary
And where such for 25  sell?
And "their recreation centers " unambiguously differ nothing from .
Differ just that there backs are carried out... In back. As changeover by a cheap budgetary component recreation center they have quite the right to existence.
At me to info it is written, than I am engaged. If it you really interests.
No, does not interest, excuse.
And here you zealously enough rushed to offer a heap of variants.
various variants under specific request . You got usual abstract moaning about that anything be better than a component recreation center cannot.
In Peter there is one quite good desk in which it is possible to listen to different variants.
We know this desk. In hundred meters from my operation is. You, casually, not in it work? wink
Any recreation centers from LG, the Panasonic, Samsung there is not present
Still, it after all "vendors of microwaves". And you brands with history ", whether not so interest"?
I would suggest to descend and listen there.
Not to mention that the equipment is completely uncovered only at real scenarios of usage in a real location, you recognize that not all there is presented.
He/she is the author of a subject yet does not know that it is necessary to it. And that it is necessary to me, I know for a long time.
I understand. At you, sectarians, always so. You do not understand that is also normal people who would not like to spend half-lives and half of family budget for that to believe in a divine sound:D
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reload3d
Now I tend to this piece of Sony HT-CT790, 4 supports, so on idea through it it is possible  PS4 Pro, plus pleasant counters of type to lose music with

Excellent variant, moreover, then  it will be possible to connect to it on back wireless columns from that Sleepyhead if suddenly decide to expand system to the real multichannel. Since a lineup of this year system of the Sleepyhead it allows to make. This model and HD-codecs Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master Audio supports.

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reload3d
Because so is easier.
So today any receiver can be connected so that it turned on together with TV (or separately if video is not used)
Actually, as well as any other device with HDMI CEC

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Manichaean
How there can be an excellent choice a device of sound reproduction, which, though on luggage desktop upwards speakers though on a wall hang up speakers forward - all uniformly? And anybody  connections in it it is not provided. Only the subwoofer wireless can be connected and organized , and in a remaining stereo .
One it: "the Technology of volume sounding S-Force PRO Front Surround feigns neural processes, creating a volume realistic sound with a time delay of sounding and a wide spectrum of sound waves - it it is possible to reach only by means of the right and left sound channels." - in the description forces to prick up the ears. In a sound it appears neural processes happen. smile

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reload3d
To Buy "columns" even for 50 a toad smothers, for me it  a barrier
It is possible and is cheaper. If you know what to search
http://www.mvideo.ru/products/resiver-d … 2-10010644 - 35
https://www.avito.ru/sankt-peterburg/au … _884198673 Infinity Beta light - 8.5 = 43.5
https://www.avito.ru/sankt-peterburg/au … _883609167 Infinity Beta dark - 10 = 45
To a psychological barrier it is not held out wink
On columns, I think, still it is possible to throw off a little.
Sound it will be unambiguous better, than on that  from the Sleepyhead.
Sergesha m-music
How there can be an excellent choice a device of sound reproduction, which, though on luggage desktop upwards speakers though on a wall hang up speakers forward - all uniformly?
Well so logic of the seller: "you selected the best!!! Cannot be better!"

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Manichaean
And in comparison with it  Sony HT-CT790 how will sound Attitude Uni One? I look it of all 17 thousand costs, sleepyheads certainly , but twice to overpay for appearance it is not ready?
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Chudik
To a barrier it is not held out, but on Avito I am normal not the walker behind such devices, new it is more to liking. And will place on a drawing room all these columns inconveniently

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reload3d
Cheap  refine a sound in the core at the expense of subwoofer presence, and the central panel of speakers not strongly plays is better.
Therefore can it is simple suffices to add  to the built in sound? At me such sheaf - 49XD7005 + ps4pro + VECTOR HX TV SUB. In due course it will be possible to add still 2.0 acoustics if definition of average and high frequencies begins not to suffice. A Deshmansky variant smile

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reload3d
On Avito I am normal not the walker behind such devices, new it is more to liking.
It is possible and to take decent columns second-hand. And Infinity Beta very decent. Them normally change at an upgrade for essentially best. Yes for such price. Other sellers sell more expensively.

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Sergesha m-music
How there can be an excellent choice a device of sound reproduction, which, though on luggage desktop upwards speakers though on a wall hang up speakers forward - all uniformly?
Excuse, but you wrote any delirium. In my opinion there in the instruction the method of its layout precisely enough is specified.
And anybody  connections in it it is not provided. Only the subwoofer wireless can be connected and organized , and in a remaining stereo .
there it is possible to organize by means of additional speakers SRS-ZR5 or SRS-ZR7 from the Sleepyhead through system SongPal http://songpal.sony.net/ru/device.html
What relation a subwoofer and  I have to  and at all did not understand. You though in course, what such ?
And in a remaining stereo .
The virtualization system, therefore any volume is not bad enough worked for Sonki will be, even without adding of backs.
Chudik
On columns, I think, still it is possible to throw off a little.
Aha, the budgetary receiver with budgetary columns which it is far not the fact as a result turns out that " it will be unambiguous better, than on that  from the Sleepyhead. " to take a cheap receiver it made sense at least from the point of view of switching (about a good sound there speeches do not go) earlier. And now the majority of the modern TV sets with this function consult.
reload3d
And in comparison with it  Sony HT-CT790 how will sound Attitude Uni One?
As a stereosystem from two floor columns smile In the Sleepyhead all more technologies is put, including . There is also more inexpensive version of it  in Sony HT-CT390 ruler. But I would be enclosed on perspective in high model. As 390th does not support wireless backs. Well or as variant HT-NT5. However to you to solve.
flashgc
Cheap  refine a sound in the core at the expense of subwoofer presence, and the central panel of speakers not strongly plays is better.
Therefore can it is simple suffices to add  to the built in sound?

At first, even cheap the SAT plays better the built in speakers, at least from the point of view of capacity/loudness. For example on  many rollers go with low level of a sound and possibilities of my TV is banal does not suffice, even if I unscrew loudness in a maximum. And at  with it problems are not present, it and on third of loudness perfectly consults.
Secondly, there is still a problem of the central channel through which there is a great bulk of dialogues. In  it too is not removed, more often, completely, but there this channel though is reallocated between other speakers. And at  an average and higher range it is made qualitatively enough. And at TV with it generally it is sad.

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reload3d
For 25 . Really to buy or  with , or  a box recreation center. All another in such  stupidly does not get if, of course, to do not from  and sticks. And if to do from  and sticks - that will sound at the best exactly the same as  with , or  a box recreation center.

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alnash
For 25 . Really to buy or  with , or  a box recreation center. All another in such  stupidly does not get if, of course, to do not from  and sticks. And if to do from  and sticks - that will sound at the best exactly the same as  with , or  a box recreation center.
About it also I speak. At present to collect more or less normal a component recreation center (if to buy new instead of to search on dustbins) less than for 100-shku hardly it turns out. And, to that, not all it approaches/is necessary.

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Manichaean
You though in course that for  a sound except . Acoustics and  the digital-to-analog coder with preliminary  is necessary? You though in course that connecting . Acoustics to this magic lezhashche-standing device, you simply broadcast on them the same stereosignal, as in the main speakers? It also is called .