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Topic: Electric meter TSE 2726-12 that with it happens?

Electric meter TSE 2726-12 releases 2008. For not clear reason ceased to show the data. Two last years it was not used almost. Ungeared all automatic machines. Time in some months took away mail from a box and light included for some time. Entered indications on a company site. Identical. Consumption is not present.
One year ago transferred the house from the company in . Wrote application that the data removed and in a private office to enter counter indications.
Fixed time. Yesterday arrived and I expect the representative. The counter on the display shows nothing generally... Light is. 1 as such can be? The counter almost did not work, out-of-operation was, and broke.
They could make something on a ladder? The counter itself in a hall costs.
The apartment is not privatized. 2 - who should buy new or it is possible to repair?
The representative wrote the act, bit off a seal (in the act wrote that it bit off). I did not sign.
Told that now on an average it is necessary to pay 140. 3 - How to arrive?
Service life of 30 years approximately, and checking through 16.

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The counter died
To replace on new (nearby 800), to cause  is sold to seal up (free of charge)
And to continue to pay for zero consumption

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short_circuit
It only changeover 800?
 
For what you generally bought the multitariff counter? The multitariff counter is the real .
When received apartment in 2009 it stood. At all house such.  did not buy.
Quite enough the normal one-rate counter for 650-800 roubles and is better than mark "Merkury".
If to buy "Merkury" there will be no troubles with connection? Cabling-podvodka of wires.
Here counters what are recommended by sale. https://pes.spb.ru/for_customers/the_el … _counters/
What to select?

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maik2
It only changeover 800?
No, it is the counter price (+ - an elbow). With your zero consumption, the heaped up electronic multitariff counter - money for a wind. Buy any idle time with a mechanical panel (all of them equally electronic).
Setting - separately for money. If can - put independently
Then cause the inspector of sale, it seals up the counter and places it in operation, and continue to pay on actual consumption
Here counters what are recommended by sale. https://pes.spb.ru/for_customers/the_el … _counters/
What to select?

Any certificated. To buy from them it is completely not mandatory

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maik2
It only changeover 800?
:-\
- For you 1200-1400 (relatives at me in Peter) - 800 it in kishlaks costs
wink
If to buy "Merkury" there will be no troubles with connection?
- Buy counter "" - receive Lenenergo problems - really has no it in the list recommended to setting:
http://www.powergrid.ru/price.html
- So is more careful - with  advisers
- The Stavropol and Circassian I do not advise-is sad experience - take, Petersburg, earlier still Lithuanian were reliable

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Valeryko
- Buy counter "" - receive Lenenergo problems - really has no it in the list recommended to setting:
the Link to a site of the vendor - in directory  it is.

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On a question - if automatic machines are ungeared everything, the counter energized?
Interests, since in an out-of-operation state was the last two years. Why and as could break.

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maik2
If automatic machines are ungeared everything, the counter energized?
Energized, but not alive.
Why and as could break.
The condenser of the electronic circuit, microcrack in a board, "a cold soldering" dried up at the assembly, etc.

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Wlad402
  the Link to a site of the vendor - in directory  it is.
- The electric meters recommended for setting are defined local , instead of by their vendors.
- You will deliver unrecommended -  problems.

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Wlad402
The condenser of the electronic circuit, microcrack in a board, "a cold soldering" Dried up at the assembly, etc.
He/she is the copyist, companions. The electronic counter is called... Moving parts, details are not present and .
The old counter with a disk in a city fulfilled almost 30 years and now on a summer residence costs. Did not break...
By the way, old adjusters or the controlling organization free of charge on new same with a disk changed about 10 years ago. It in other house.:confused:
In the USSR did better?
Adding from 12/11/2016 23:03:
Valeryko
- The electric meters recommended for setting are defined local , instead of by their vendors.
- You will deliver unrecommended -  problems.

Here of it also I am afraid.

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maik2 : on the display shows nothing generally... Light is. The representative wrote the act, bit off a seal (in the act wrote that it bit off). I did not sign.

at all I do not know what to tell... I long worked in Power supervision and I understand that to you can make a complaint about  about malfunction of the counter. In other words - the penalty on the unknown total. I already would run to agree. Though - can at you they think of people, instead of about the pocket...

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Valeryko , correctly write! In power sale the act about the idle counter, and that that it is not signed, has no value.

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ashim1990
In power sale the act about the idle counter, and that that it is not signed, has no value
?
- I repeatedly had to gain acquaintances and their relatives - about the act I and did not write - ANNOUNCEMENT it is written in power sale (the passport and the property right to habitation, the contract on electric power - delivery are mandatory), the act already  give (at me they there are also - counters to themselves changed itself, it is natural)
- And the act - here it:
http://xranitelochaga.ru/wp-content/upl … chetch.pdf

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Valeryko so it is different acts! At you - commissioning, at the HARDWARE - most likely, the act about violation with all that it implies...

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ashim1990
The HARDWARE - most likely, the act about violation with all that it implies
- Here still a problem that the supplier of the electric power at the author of a subject exchanged (had on water, for example, such troubles - if only for years to have legal proceedings - easier repeatedly for all to pay)
- That he there did not live - so the supplier of the electric power without the notification about it in advance and will not go to it towards, and mockery on submission of indications of the counter ... There are no words...
- So the act about malfunction of the counter simply aggravated that takes place to be and without this - desire  to cut down more, and it is better - forward and for the rendered service...
- The same Moscow power sale accepts indications strictly from 15 numbers, and accounts began to send... Earlier - and always more the counter suggests to pay, but forward will pay - at growth of quotations strictly enumerates on a new rate
- At the author of a subject 140244 = 14 000  runs - ... Only here it is not clear, why it owes debts to old electrosale - even if they are - to new electrosale to pay, and if it overpays to it the replaced supplier would return a difference?
:confused:

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It will be curious to learn, than this history for maik2 ends. Something prompts to me that to it has already no time for us...

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Valeriko, great  and .
Came,  the person, and satisfied with the produced effect, fell down

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Unless the counter on a moped does not transfer the data?
The last indications should be saved inside at it in non-volatile storage.
It can even considers, only the display does not show.
Any contract did not conclude. Transferred in itself our houses.
It came on my announcement. It was necessary though time to pay that in basis power marketing there was a pay-sheet then it is possible to enter the data in a private office.
The last receipt for October came to a box on payment 2.22 and that is type fines.
Debts on 01.10.16 450. 64.

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maik2
Debts on 01.10.16 450. 64.
- Then urgently pay, in court will otmazatsja-drive to power sale then on you more difficult - they after all too have a duty to take readings of the counter of times in half a year
Any contract did not conclude. Transferred in itself our houses.
- It is bad, the contract is mandatory - without it can to disconnect without the warning
It Came on my announcement. It was necessary though time to pay that in basis power marketing there was a pay-sheet then it is possible to enter the data in a private office.
- At my friend after transmission of village with its house to Moscow delivered the second counter on a pole in the street, then forced to change the old counter (on which he and pays WHILE) on modern in the house, so at it now two counters of two different , at you yet the most bad variant.
big_smile

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But you are right a photocopy of group of the tolerance of the electrician replaced to you the counter should be.
- Generally it was the photocopy of my certificate, but to pay except  also "for connection" all the same my colleague forced
:eek:
Yes poor-quality accessories got to counters of mark of Merkury of 2013 because of the raised demand for this mark factory weakened quality, but now all counters transit running.
- Well the last time fault of assemblers (did not connect a zero wire - the board of the interface from the PC burned down from overheating), though it too apparent defect of the instrument was faster
By new rules at separate individual houses the counter should be allocated on a pole, to an input on private territory, for unobstructed control over the consumed power resource.
- In Moscow Region, in the same Kabardino-Balkariya yet do not demand
- Only while this village still capital and regional  nevertheless did not divide, but counters capital electricians (it is natural, from Central Asia) nevertheless, asking nobody, delivered.
If to someone free of charge replaced the registration instrument it is possible to be glad only for them. But by rules the registration instrument concerns the equipment of premises and safety its duty of the proprietor.
- Nevertheless changed and it is free, but they on a ladder platform, now change lifts on account of capital repairs payment, I suppose, counters too for a line in a pay-sheet passed "capital repairs". Only here I to myself and steam of friends changed counters at own expense, and capital repairs were paid by us, as well as all neighbors.
:confused:

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Valeryko
. by rules the registration instrument concerns the equipment of premises and safety its duty of the proprietor.
- Nevertheless changed and it is free, but they on a ladder platform, now change lifts on account of capital repairs payment, I suppose, counters too for a line in a pay-sheet passed "capital repairs". Only here I to myself and steam of friends changed counters at own expense, and capital repairs were paid by us, as well as all neighbors.

Simply to cut grandmas for what without answering. The apartment is not privatized, the counter not in the property means also.
If it is exact all counters hung up on them would not recommend a garbage to setting,  money from them would take vendors.

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maik2
If it is exact all counters hung up on them would not recommend a garbage to setting,  money from them would take vendors.
- Counters became now a headache of tenants (truth to steal in large quantities them from platforms ceased) - the link to the law more low.
- And here not all so is simple, at us now all is divided-prihvatizirovano state, counters, including because of new requirements to an accuracy class, changed , and we pay to power sale on them - of a country house in Cannes though also nearby, but nevertheless different "employers". And on the house now also  the general counter considers -  is interested in reduction of the part (for example that paying at reduced prices, on the quiet to release to businessmen on commercial for "a black cash" (tents trading, for example, at us-paid parking place at the house and a cellular communication tower on the house).
 
And we only should pay the consumed resource.
-I suppose, either already on the quiet or then do as on water: you pay on the counter, and in addition to it - it is strict under the law implemented , to pay over the counter a difference of the totals of counters and standard expense allowances (at apartments which do not have counters), it is proportional to number of the registered.
It to trace service life and serviceability of the instrument easier, and also to repair them and to lead state check.
- I suppose, NOW counters nevertheless became a problem of tenants, the last changeover - is faster postponed  than the law on which before privatization houses-apartments, they should be put in order, in a part  property especially.
P.S. But who needs my judgement!
- In the light of that, as for inhabited sector the fantasy, judgement of the author of a post want to implement an advance payment for the electric power, social norm and superrates for its excess, distant switch-off of power supplies too any more and you should be pragmatic: to pay demanded, to change the counter and to conclude the contract with electrosale - and all it as it will be possible faster - further only is worse.
That all instruments of the registration suppliers of power resources at own expense as it and was earlier should install My judgement.
- So you told: P.S. But who needs my judgement!
[s] Changeover of electric meters is regulated by the decision of Gosstandart of the Russian Federation and the letter of Gosenergonadzor from 2000. Changeover of the instrument of the registration of the consumed electric power in the premises which are in the property of a customer (including private home ownerships), is produced at his expense (according to article 210  the Russian Federation).
In a case if registration instruments are allocated in places of the general use (on staircases and platforms) and they are not the property of citizens-consumers, and are on balance of the power supplying organization or the owner of the house (municipality, . The organizations etc.) - proprietors of the house should provide appropriate maintenance service of instruments of the registration which is on their balance, and also to incur all expenditures on purchase, setting, connection of electric meters, including failed not because of the subscriber and (or) in connection with changeover when due hereunder on other class of accuracy. [/s]

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Valeryko
Changeover of the instrument of the registration of the consumed electric power in the premises which are in the property of a customer (including private home ownerships), is produced at his expense (according to article 210  the Russian Federation).
Here it is clear. The proprietor. At me municipal apartment.
Generally if in my property what for it a seal from it bit off the counter? The second seal of the counter on a place.

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maik2
Changeover of the instrument of the registration of the consumed electric power in the premises which are in the property of a customer (including private home ownerships), is produced at his expense (according to article 210  the Russian Federation). Here it is clear. The proprietor. At me municipal apartment.
???
In a case if registration instruments are allocated in places of the general use (on staircases and platforms) and they are not the property of citizens-consumers, and are on balance of the power supplying organization or the owner of the house ( municipality , . The organizations etc.) - proprietors of the house should provide appropriate maintenance service of instruments of the registration which is on their balance, and also to incur all expenditures on purchase, setting, connection of electric meters, including failed not because of the subscriber and (or) in connection with changeover when due hereunder on other class of accuracy.
- You still should prove that the counter failed not through your fault (for example that you not specially put it out of action not to pay for an electricity) EVEN IF it not was in apartment, and if your counter is in apartment - and to prove is useless also any changeover of the counter in apartment - at your expense in an any way.