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veng
And at me as that to it the soul does not lie.
If does not lie smothering - do not take smile Will be tormented and all the same sell in a year-two. At a companion the father so changed  the first for slow motion. As a whole machines very similar, but... "The soul did not lay down", quitted the machine and turned around, in meditations "and whether he bought". As a result through a floor of year handed over in a trade-in and bought ) It is happy)
in respect of salon anything it is basic from  does not differ (unless a climate is), it is doubtful that to it suddenly lays down smothering)
[off]  Kazan in this subject it is sick  smile [/off]

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Kilometer Cost quits 7.18 roubles. I go nuts.
It is not enough, it , and that before crisis.
You not counted all. At you only gasoline now on 100   in a year.

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Two years ago Grandee Vitaru took, I am not sorry absolutely.
Breakages naturally are not present while. The engine a little feeble, for me a unique minus.
In remaining the strong working horsy, will go and go.

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[off] Bam Bam Bigelow
Despite convenient salon, on  Vitara - that still , alas.
To itself did not consider because of extreme rigid suspension bracket since "the green mile" to a summer residence abounds with hummocks. [/off]

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Cher
Despite convenient salon, on  Vitara - that still , alas.
To itself did not consider because of extreme rigid suspension bracket since "the green mile" to a summer residence abounds with hummocks.

It appeared that the reason in native moronic rubber  on wheels 17 ", thus recommended pressure in buses - 2.6 . wink
All changed after purchase of disks 16 "and rubbers of other vendor. In my opinion now the car goes more softly, than Rav4, Ix35 and approximately as Honda CR-V.

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Bam Bam Bigelow
Remind, for how many you snatched out it that before crisis?

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[off] Bam Bam Bigelow
is all the same much softer, though also a drum.  the suspension bracket for Simbole spoiled me wink [/off]

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Fabricator
Remind, for how many you snatched out it that before crisis?
Something of type 1.09 for the machine, plus rubber and some . Options, it turned out more close to 1.2
But it was possible to buy for one million with mechanics and without ESP (basis).
I think, the grandee  2014 in a simple complete set somewhere and costs one million now, .
[off] Cher
Duska is all the same much softer, though also a drum.  the suspension bracket for Simbole spoiled me
Did not go wink
But then it turns out that  where is softer than all these 4 and .
And still rubber changed the machine, the first impression I remember - where all holes as such it is possible that happens wink [/off] got to
[spoiler] Concerning rubber and in reviews write:

Concerning complaints on "wildly a rigid suspension bracket": rigidity of a suspension bracket approximately at Field level, even is hardly softer. And the reason of complaints is regular rubber Bridgestone Dueler H/T in a combination dataful on regular pressure upon a label. There pressure 2.4 comfort, 2.6 house-keeper is specified, in a combination with  rubber it gives terrible effect of transmission of the slightest roughnesses of road on the person, thus easy "swallowing" of roughnesses more serious, type of lying policemen. As a result with pressure above 2.2 by this rubber to go on our roads it is simply unreal, I delivered at all 2.0, became quite comfortable, controllability did not affect almost.
To read completely: http://www.drom.ru/reviews/suzuki/grand_vitara/83390/

I would add that regular "Bridgestone Dueler H/T" generally it is better to sell to somebody. [/spoiler]

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[off] Bam Bam Bigelow
But then it turns out that  where is softer than all these 4 and .
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From singularities - the machine for the class easy (1.4 tons), and on excess rate on irregular road can enter into a vertical swing. Sensations, as on a trampoline. But teeth the friend about the friend does not knock:gigi: [/off]

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Here, dug out interesting video - comparing  and the patriot.
Daster and the Patriot
Both good fellows, and considering that in new  is both electronic locks and mechanical lock of the back bridge...

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veng
On  Dastere the automatic machine , keep in mind. Video slightly custom, but... Truth that geometry at the machine for impassability very quite good - a clearance and congress/arrival corners, for example. And here diagonal posting - an Achilles' heel.

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Cher
On  Dastere the automatic machine , keep in mind.
Unless on restyling other automatic machine?

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[off] Fabricator
Fairly - was not interested in a question. On the old rolled, it was not pleasant. To itself took on the pen.
And on new it was not possible to go, so it is simple not in course. [/off]

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For , and generally  - I will support.
For me one minus - are small. But , especially 4 with a mineral  1,6, can become legendary

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http://www.drivernotes.net/garage/84389 … 15893/fuel
http://www.drivernotes.net/garage/84389 … 51091/fuel
I here roll 2 diesel Daster and to myself is quite happy!
Adding from 11/12/2016 21:36:
Renault Daster 1.5dCi: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P … o3z1-aET5A

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veng
I Consider this variant. While sentences are not present. Especially, wanted through a trade-in.
, is a good judge of perversions. You, directly burn with the desire  not a sickly heap  for simple so.:weep:  profile sites also there will be to you a happiness in the form of good . And strongly do not calculate (the budget:weep:) for cardinal improving of consumer properties of the future car, in comparison with the previous.
Adding from 11/12/2016 22:55:
STeLLz
I have once been puzzled by a similar question. And so in 07 year I did not find normal  to a lemon. All quitted for it.
In 07 year easily was 100  in an excellent state.:weep: about cheaper cars, at all I do not speak.:shuffle:

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veng
It is a little that pulls to change the machine.
At you it turns out 25 thousand a year. It is a little.
If take new - that quits more expensively.
If take second-hand (as the choice from  to million is extremely sad and sad) will be even more expensive. At me here in the summer the generator died (the machine 4 years) - 50 thousand new costs.
Total 115000 roubles a year. To a horse-radish.
Kilometer cost quits 7.18 roubles. I go nuts...

With such mathematics take everything - there will be a minimum as much, and most likely - in region 11 for kilometer.
Adding from 11/13/2016 00:03:
Maximum you can replace in such budget the machine on any   and with similar expenditure to spend on it as early as three years, time so are afraid to get on expensive "senile" repairs. The first  generally the aggregate  controlled, inconvenient (I cannot sit at the wheel there - the regulation range is small), but  the aggregate.
Adding from 11/13/2016 00:06:
tipo
About cheaper cars, at all I do not speak.
In 08 year if storage does not change it was possible new 4 (not an off-road car, but the machine) in a complete set "outside , inside it is not visible" (i.e. on molding, with xenon, but without navigation and cruise-control) for 1.1 to take. Like. Or for 1.2. More shortly to present measures where it gets into the similar budget only basic  on an agitator there was time of the pleasant prices:gigi:

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From off-road cars to a lemon only , at remaining quality level even more low. But if on  the field is more preferable. The UAZ is very unreliable and guzzles, as a hippopotamus. To select especially and there is nothing.

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It is not necessary the Patriot. I speak, as the owner. And the newest modification departed from  further away. And yes, in a city it will not eat 12 liters :-\

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medvezonokumka
In a city it will not eat 12 liters :-\
The fact. Peter of 10-12 liters only at night on quay will be, all remaining variants - 20.

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And what on Chineses?
Motors feeble? Great Wall Hover about 150 h.p. is, it is not enough of it?

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Metallic
Great Wall Hover about 150 h.p. is
There is an acquaintance , all as a whole is reliable, sound and functional is. But on fifth it flied in the winter, since the priority of a back drive outstanding course stability does not differ. Changed on the sixth, like normal, but of expensive service complains. I think that on reliability and gluttony it is better . Only it is necessary to understand that the sixth not , and .

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medvezonokumka
It is not necessary the Patriot.
At me already one is. The son goes by it.
This bought in February 2015 on a trade  handing over old 2007.
12 liters on a city on new - are real.
On new  above a roof.
It seems that variants especially that also are not present.
Looking aside SKODA YETI, but it is more expensive than a lemon, tight,  a suspension bracket and DSG.
But goes smartly. Went for a drive on it in sandy open-cast mine. [del] oh *** [/del] d Strongly was surprised.
However, the fellow worker has a front-wheel. And so, for 60000 km at an engine changed a circuit and once a gasoline pump twice.

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Really the patriot guzzles gasoline, than santa-fe:spy less:

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Bam Bam Bigelow

Really the patriot guzzles gasoline less, than santa-fe

On the traffic depends also the sizes of a city. On distant stages it can be laid down in 10 liters in "" a mode. In a mode 120-140 expenditure at it rises at once [del] for [/del] to 15-17 liters.