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Topic: Purchase of an off-road car is not more expensive than one million.

So, I decided to replace the machine. Old sanfa fe classic 2008 it is time to change on what that newer.
And with the registration of the choice sounded above financial restriction practically is not present.
It would be desirable the passable and comfortable car.
the off-road car as a result turns out the expensive.
From the new
- the dead motor and tight
Chineses - the same not spacious and motors feeble.
and the company - a pancake, I know that reliable, but salon as in  to quintuple. And besides the tight.
- there is no automatic machine (I hope while) and is hardish.
All remaining  in the marked price category has a front drive. sad
Here such hogwash.
While I tend to the updated patriot.
It is a little about that pulls to change the machine.
1. The expenditure. From 18 liters on hundred km in a city in the summer, from 20 winter.
2. Service. If housekeeping overheads except oils \filters to take had
18000 km - (when bought  in 2012) 15000  - changeover of front stands.
50000 km - a front suspension bracket - spherical, elastic bands, pull. Quitted in 35000
70000 km - oil in  12000 rbl.
80000 km - a back suspension bracket , levers shock-absorbers; a lobby . Total 28500.
To 90000 km - changeover of candles, candles plus operation where that 10000 rbl.
Besides bearings of naves similar rustled and there were internal cracks on headlights.
From so.
Than the present machine is pleasant - is rather spacious, very soft suspension bracket, V6 171 h.p., a climate control, a constant full drive, interwheel lock of differential  and the self-unit in the back bridge.
Here I sit and I think.

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Re: Purchase of an off-road car is not more expensive than one million.

Overwatch
Probably, outweighs the automatic machine  smile I on   with AL4 on the automatic machine would not buy ... especially with the full drive ...
veng
It is a little that pulls to change the machine.
It is possible to tell that you GENERALLY in the machine put nothing.
The Expenditure. From 18 liters on hundred km in a city in the summer, from 20 winter.
The patriot will guzzle approximately as much. If the full drive not to include smile

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veng
A front suspension bracket - spherical, elastic bands, pull. Quitted in 35000 
Oil in  12000
However. I recommend  service, in which not so unscrupulously .
On a subject: "first"  rather hardy and unpretentious device, I while went for a drive on it and saved .

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Overwatch
Salon tight, a profile of seats inconvenient, glossy plastic very much irritates. And plastic not so. In general, here does not lie smothering to this machine. What that it from within, well I do not know, not specific, whether that.
By the way, on a photo already old salon Oise.
http://www.uaz.ru/uploads/content/2016. … riot10.jpg [off] (New such - 1200x800, 179.7Kb) [/off]
cmd_mode_art
Well about low reliability, it you in vain. I the first patriot bought in 2007. In 2012 the second by machine has been bought , and on old in the core there went the son. In the beginning 2015 on a trade-inu bought the new patriot. To reliability while claims are not present - while only replaced a belt roller on a warranty.

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Re: Purchase of an off-road car is not more expensive than one million.

With such budget generally to look towards NEW off-road cars it is not necessary. Now Kia Sid and  in normal  stand so much.

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Remington12
I on   with AL4 on the automatic machine would not buy ... especially with the full drive ...
It is possible to take on the mechanic and new (for one million!).
veng
I the first patriot bought in 2007. In 2012 the second by machine has been bought , and on old in the core there went the son. In the beginning 2015 on a trade-inu bought the new patriot.
At my acquaintances all is far not so . But if there is the positive experience, moreover and by two machines - the choice is almost obvious to you. smile To itself I the Patriot precisely not took.
Perhaps to enclose still money in the present machine easier, to finish to a problemless state and to go by it some more years? Will be differently cheaper new, after all globally it should not be strewed at such run.

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veng
All remaining  in the marked price category has a front drive.
Renault Kaptjur / Hyonde Kreta.
truth will be more expensive than one million, but from rather comfortable all-wheel drive cross connects is at present cheaper only second-hand.

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desper@do
  truth will be more expensive than one million
It it will be strong more expensively one million with the full drive - the prices only begin with 1200  approximately.

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desper@do
Really  on the full drive at the dealer begins with 1500000 sad((
Remington12
The Patriot will guzzle approximately as much. If the full drive not to include
Old on the average guzzled (on a computer) 16,5 New 12 on a city.
cmd_mode_art
Perhaps to enclose still money in the present machine easier, to finish to a problemless state and to go by it some more years? Will be differently cheaper new, after all globally it should not be strewed at such run.
I too tend to this variant. Only here about it should not be strewed globally, very much . At on with by an official car with the same motor there was a breakaway of belt . Repair rose in 120000 roubles before crisis.
Adding from 11/10/2016 12:40:
Remington12
It is possible to tell that you GENERALLY in the machine put nothing.
A fig to itself, anything! And how many then it is normal???

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veng
At on with by an official car with the same motor there was a breakaway of belt . Repair rose in 120000 roubles before crisis.
So if in time all to change, such situations are practically eliminated?

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cmd_mode_art
Well, theoretically yes... But who gives a warranty on quality of spare parts?
"Cho that I " ()
During week-end I will go to look .

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veng :
During week-end I will go to look .

I am afraid, will be disappointed. It outside looks not bad enough, and inside all the same , it is more spacious to me did not seem.

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veng
A fig to itself, anything! And how many then it is normal???
At you all  quitted hardly more rouble on 1 km. + I think around 5 roubles on gasoline. These are absolutely normal for a crossover on the total automatic machine.
http://www.zr.ru/content/articles/81580 … -kilometr/
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veng
At on with by an official car with the same motor there was a breakaway of belt . Repair rose in 120000 roubles before crisis.
For minute, an engine for 150  it is possible to wave.

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Take again

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The full drive truth is necessary?
I here admire at largus-cross-country (4 person, belongings, propensity to distant departures).

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S_Black
The full drive truth is necessary?
Even very much. And doing a bit of traveling on a constant drive (instead of as in the majority of crossovers "connected on demand") understood that it generally the THING.:super: on our winter it is necessary mandatory. And plus frequent departures on the nature...
Avick
Take again 
I consider this variant. While sentences are not present. Especially, wanted through a trade-in.

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Remington12
At you all  quitted hardly more rouble on 1 km.
It is all without oil, filters and other .

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cmd_mode_art
It is all without oil, filters and other .
Well, oils/filters did not include - it 3000 on 10000 km.
On 60000 changeover -12000 with operation (in official service 25500 details (a belt told, 2 roles  and a pomp) and 9000 operation.
And two times of a receptacle. I do not remember precisely, but there were they thousand under two everyone.
Adding from 11/10/2016 15:22:
Counted expenses for 4 years of possession. Here that quits on the average.
The general expenses for a year at average run of 16000 km
The insurance 8000
The tax 8000
Repair and THAT 27000
Gasoline 72000
Total 115000 roubles a year. To a horse-radish.
Kilometer cost quits 7.18 roubles. I go nuts...:weep:

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veng
Especially, wanted through a trade-in.
Well and to take from a car which the salon took away in a trade-in.

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veng
Kilometer Cost quits 7.18 roubles. I go nuts...
Wait that will be after car change.
[off] Everything invent but  only will be more expensive. With any car but especially with the new.  and 1st THAT at the dealer, the insurance, , wheels and various additional small things (armor protection, toning). [/off]

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veng
Kilometer Cost quits 7.18 roubles. I go nuts...
:laugh:  it is free
Adding from 11/10/2016 16:15:
I have once been puzzled by a similar question. And so in 07 year I did not find normal  to a lemon. All quitted for it.

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veng
The friend changed in due time with the first  on    a diesel engine on the automatic machine
The luggage carrier at it certainly is less and here salon basically almost same
3  in  it is inscribed
For example
https://auto.ru/cars/used/sale/ssang_yo … 488-8973b/

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Here judgement about . And at me as that to it the soul does not lie.
http://fishki.net/auto/2130929-nedostat … rynka.html
Adding from 11/10/2016 17:58:
Avick
Yes, the same thought of this variant.

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veng
In my opinion, your machine still resembles. Well and if want , first of all on fuel - look all the same Daster. Despite internal furniture, in the specified budget of alternatives it is a little.
[off] S_Black
The full drive truth is necessary? I here admire at largus-cross-country (4 person, belongings, propensity to distant departures).
On Dastere the first winter (at us it began early and to recede does not think), and I can tell - the full drive (that  that connected), after a monodrive - simply smart thing! At me 2.0 44 with ESP, on  "car" fulfills a mode as it is necessary - clearly and without unexpectedness. Full, in my opinion, is in this situation necessary, unless, for the severe constraints. Well and for a dirt in the summer, by itself (it is already tested).
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There is now nothing decent on  and that went, it is necessary to add still 200-300 tons and then it is possible to consider  everyones venzy-hajlendery, but on age they will not strongly more youngly 
But to sell them it will be possible almost for the same, for as bought
From  except  there is generally nothing