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Topic: ANN: New WinDbg

Greetings, article: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/windbg … n-preview/ an update: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p … gjgd53tn86

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Hello, pva, you wrote: pva> article: pva> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/windbg … n-preview/ fierce

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Hello, mike_rs, you wrote: _> Hello, pva, you wrote: pva>> article: pva>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/windbg … n-preview/ _> fierce  ui-designers reached to old kind windbg, only yesterday here complained that it unilyj-horror-nah, will be now cheerful

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Hello, pva, you wrote: pva> an update: pva> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p … gjgd53tn86 Goats and freaks for demands Win10, and under the seven even does not allow to download. In last 10.0.15063.0, by the way, in a mode of remote debugging through  in an output window the casual garbage regularly starts to climb, it was necessary to be rolled away on 10.0.14321.1024. And a long-term jamb with  registers of 64-digit system in window Registers in the last versions and did not repair.

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> Hello, pva, you wrote: I eat> And a long-term jamb with  registers of 64-digit system in window Registers in the last versions and did not repair. Time is not present, it is necessary urgently ui to change -   work  and  to relieve the world from old kind windbg

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Hello, Evgenie Muzychenko, you wrote: I eat> Hello, pva, you wrote: pva>> an update: pva>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p … gjgd53tn86 I eat> Goats and freaks for demands Win10, and under the seven even does not allow to download. Here, here. Than further subjects  the software will be compatible only to the last edition WinX

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Hello, pva, you wrote: pva> article: pva> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/windbg … n-preview/ Acceptable words are not present.

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Not clearly whence such negative. On me so its interface is awful and for a long time it was time to update it.

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Hello, _, you wrote: _> Especially Courier without ClearType our all And where at MS now there is a font without ClearType? I foolishly agreed recently on setting of update IE on the seven, and now at me in half of windows not disconnected ClearType - enrages extremely.

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R> it is not clear whence such negative. R> on me so its interface is awful and for a long time it was time to update it. For me  it was not in absence . I personally in windbg never used a toolbar, well can except for the first months of usage. Further simply command line and  . With  it becomes even more awful - simply at the expense of loss of a work space of command line.  windbg was in curve  and oblique workspace, in which I and did not comprehend logic of saving of adjustments for more than ten years' experience. They always saved that it is not necessary to save and did not save that that it is necessary to save. On idea it could be corrected, delivering  there one '!'

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Hello, _, you wrote: _> Not that that the interface of times Office 97, yes. Especially Courier without ClearType our all the Central idea  is a grouping of functions when it is too much them. And empty  this preview, as though hints, at the uselessness, who read to those  and authors of it . On your logic in a Visual Studio 2017 interface till now times Office 97? And so it is possible still fonts 8 on 8 to recall from CGA. There too ClearType was not. But as it concerns to  for  a debugger, almost which all functions I have no graphic representation for me a riddle...

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O> For me  it was not in absence .  for reactionaries and owners 17 "monitors on the right on top there is a button which transforms it into a menu

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O>> For me  it was not in absence . R> Spetsalno for reactionaries and owners 17 "monitors When throw you in the field  your product which works, to be exact , at the customer on  girls-pripevochki with 14" and the channel  plays a role two factors - that  it was possible to download-put quickly and that he allowed effectively  in such conditions. Thus  can download and not work, if yours  a product - a firewall. windbg with a dial-up of the predownloaded characters I always on a flash card carried. Now, I so understand, it it will be impossible to do. R> on the right on top there is a button which the button in a menu   transforms it into a menu Well, that in due course its fans of the new did not cut the main thing

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O> When you throw in the field  your product which works, to be exact , Matter is not in , and in your product, accept already for it responsibility Programmers as a whole ache, more than women, "it not I much, me forced....", " a shit"

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O>> When you throw in the field  your product which works, to be exact , R> Matter is not in , and in your product, accept already for it responsibility That is new windbg -  for products which it is not necessary ? OK

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Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> When you throw in the field  your product which works, to be exact , at the customer on  girls-pripevochki with 14 "and the channel  plays a role two factors - that  it was possible to download-put quickly and that he allowed effectively  in such conditions. Thus  can download and not work, if yours  a product - a firewall. Any far-fetched situation. Well you will find a bug, and what? On what you will be to collect the corrected version, and if it somewhere at office once again with a flash card you will go? I in the field could debug and correct a software, and in terrible conditions, but the computer with all development environment at me was.

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O>> When you throw in the field  your product which works, to be exact , at the customer on  girls-pripevochki with 14 "and the channel  plays a role two factors - that  it was possible to download-put quickly and that he allowed effectively  in such conditions. Thus  can download and not work, if yours  a product - a firewall. Ops> Any far-fetched situation. Well you will find a bug, and what? On what you will be to collect the corrected version, and if it somewhere at office once again with a flash card you will go? Ops> I in the field could debug and correct a software, and in terrible conditions, but the computer with all development environment at me was. The computer with the environment certainly is. But it with the environment, instead of a bug.  it is necessary not there where the environment, and there where a bug. And such field bugs as a rule also are extremely whimsical in playback -  - and the bug is not present. And you can  it three hours flied. And the bug is played back about once a day and only by machines of the customer. Because only they have very specific device, and  in the browser for operation with this at  on their corporate portal. And your product -   (a firewall + still  that) which occasionally breaks   on  to what reason. And anybody does not give to you in private use a device, access to the intranet. And on a game the contract on pair  dollars. And here you sit, at office behind a computer of the secretary and  to a bug. And if to all to it in components also windbg it does not want to be installed since THEIR corporate politicians do not allow to put  from a market and after   - he does not want it  the interface in the monitor... I to what windbg am good as minimum dependent debugger which easily and is quickly torn on any, in the slightest degree breathing system. For example it is possible for them  if the network stack is killed - the main thing characters on local ways that were all. It was possible for them  if in system the basis sxs is broken dll - because to it was is necessary kernel32/advapi32/user32/dbgeng and all (besides if characters all locally are accessible). It it was possible to launch and have functional  in a window of virtual machine ESX of the server with the fixed resolution 800600. If windbg to turn to studio it will be not necessary since already there is a studio and in it already is .

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Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> I to what windbg am good as minimum dependent debugger which easily and is quickly torn on any, in the slightest degree breathing system. Remained after all cdb/ntsd (command-line versions windbg). If all the same use only command line, whether so loss windbg is great?

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O>> I to what windbg am good as minimum dependent debugger which easily and is quickly torn on any, in the slightest degree breathing system. zou> Remained after all cdb/ntsd (command-line versions windbg). If all the same use only command line, whether so loss windbg is great? 1) windbg-shnaja the console nevertheless is more convenient than the bare console. 2) sometimes nevertheless  a window memory. And disasm + - 10 lines always before eyes it is useful. 3) but after all it is still installed together with . That is problems of setting with  in force.

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Hello, zou, you wrote: zou> If all the same use only command line, whether so loss windbg is great? Well here I regularly use Call Stack, Locals, Memory. Would use and Registers, yes it is broken many years ago.

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Hello, ononim, you wrote: O> 3) but after all it is still installed together with . That is problems of setting with  in force. It is installed together with Debugging Tools for Windows. Windbg, as well as from this dial-up, it was possible to deliver remaining programs once through msi earlier, and then simple copying to transfer on other machines. Really now all Debugging Tools now only through  will be installed and not to support "xcopy deployment", how earlier?

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Hello, zou, you wrote: zou> it was possible to deliver once through msi earlier, and then simple copying to transfer on other machines. I stupidly unpack all life WinDbg from MSI any suitable utility in the target directory. The last time launched setting many years ago.

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O> If windbg to turn to studio it will be not necessary Yes it and as UM-debagger  it is not necessary. There are more made alternatives https://x64dbg.com/http://www.ollydbg.de/

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O>> If windbg to turn to studio it will be not necessary R> Yes it and as UM-debagger  it is not necessary. There are more made alternatives R> https://x64dbg.com/ not  R> http://www.ollydbg.de/ you still  recall As at both of them by the way with ? For example there is a function which 100500 times is appealed and it would be desirable to deliver  that worked only if in this place @rax=0x12345.