Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, ollv, you wrote: O>> it would be desirable to note that bicycles like it is fast as superfluous. MTD> since 2008 as I started to write on Qt it I hear, still I about With ++ heard the same, only earlier. All are died off by them, all die off, here that's all. So)) presence we tell so in it does not cancel unproductive thought. Whether Mahlo who that speaks. Here what for them ? And you know, what now by the hands is implemented - in a half-kick? decltype and ., facilitate life repeatedly. But Error that you orient on , it is necessary to look more deeply - MFC, Cbuilder and other other other, it practically dies off with so we tell popular means . The sense in that the world on a place is not necessary, namely the world With ++ on a place is not necessary, and that allowed to do preprocessor with heaps , will be implementable in pluses (however already, personally I now on the project quite successfully , Russian Orthodox Church and other... The abstract serialization of that in any backend substitute JSON XML/BIN all joins in a type) O>> , O>> personally , me - long selected a word - it is opposite MTD> Clearly, judgement of fanatics especially valuably, thanks. And here fanaticism, exceptional practice look - I here faced that the recursion of a template is not deeper 500, and in it not to repair - .) ) I simply do not love, it is a lot of hemorrhoids, however I do not eliminate that is simple resources on creation normal from ideologically \filosovskoj point of view does not suffice, and to use bicycles . Though it is more at me with objective a C and JAVA. But in any way with pluses. The blessing in everyones (, , std) to it to a course is not present. And causes in me much more pleasant esthetic sensations, than selectors.