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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> And give, that you were clear what experience at you in development   on Qt will show the project? Here mine: https://icq.com/And here mine: http://notes.sciter.com/ Structure of the screen and UI the identical: Only at you distribution 49 Mb, at me 2 Mb - i.e. in 20 times is less. At me uses Direct2D - i.e. GPU rendering - at you mostly CPU rasterizing (Qt). On MacOS at me Skia/OpenGL at you again Qt. That above I wrote That application for three months, and for how many you wrote the?

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> And here mine: http://notes.sciter.com/ On Qt it is written? The person stated that on Qt to write painfully, here I and specified about its experience with Qt. CS> Structure of the screen and UI the identical: Cool! And what for in  video calls with masks and playing of media files? CS> only at you distribution 49 Mb, at me 2 Mb - i.e. in 20 times is less. At the time of games in  on 50 by bytes to be measured ridiculously. CS> at me uses Direct2D - i.e. GPU rendering - at you mostly CPU rasterizing (Qt). Also what? Anybody did not complain of productivity. CS> on MacOS at me Skia/OpenGL at you again Qt (at us too OpenGL, by the way). Also what? Complaints something did not hear. CS> that above I wrote that application for three months, and for how many you wrote the? You though itself understand what bosh carry? Write at first analog  then we compare time. On  I will write your application for 2 weeks, only how to check up, to me any hand-made articles to write when for them do not pay laziness.

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> And here mine: http://notes.sciter.com/ At you good application, but it does not work: Windows protected your PC Windows Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk. App: notes.exe Publisher: Terra Informatica Software, Inc. Now in  I will try, so .

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Now in  I will try, so . Launched. Well to tell, on  as speak meet. You managers of configuration did not master that-whether? Why it all was killed? I only launched, touched nothing:

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: CS>> that above I wrote That application for three months, and for how many you wrote the? MTD> you though itself understand what bosh carry? Write at first analog  then we compare time. On  I will write your application for 2 weeks, only how to check up, to me any hand-made articles to write when for them do not pay laziness. What for analog? ICQ from Mail.Ru uses Sciter. Or used - I do not know as now.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD>> Now in  I will try, so . MTD> Launched. Well to tell, on  as speak meet. You managers of configuration did not master that-whether? Why it all was killed? I only launched, touched nothing: MTD> Image: crop.png Yes buy already to itself the monitor more

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD>> Now in  I will try, so . : What it reversely was not recovered? , a jamb on a jamb and why I am not surprised, what here it not popularly generally?

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD>>> Now in  I will try, so . Pictures from  are not interposed, clicked two times an icon <PRE> - it fell: Segmentation fault the Friend, excuse, but to  you it is still far.

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Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> Yes buy already to itself the monitor more Monitor from me big, in  was - 1440900 less, and it here so was launched.

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD>>> Now in  I will try, so . MTD> Poresajzil: MTD> Image: crop1.png MTD> That it reversely was not recovered? , a jamb on a jamb and why I am not surprised, what here it not popularly generally? Thanks for a bug . There are still problems, as without them. That is not mistaken only who does of nothing. And to claim hoses is? Well there memory and CPU consumption, that we here consider speed of start and other technical dregs...

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, c-smile, you wrote: MTD>> You though itself understand what bosh carry? Write at first analog  then we compare time. On  I will write your application for 2 weeks, only how to check up, to me any hand-made articles to write when for them do not pay laziness. CS> what for analog? To compare similar, instead of a bum to a finger as you offered. CS> ICQ from Mail.Ru uses Sciter. Or used - I do not know as now. Never used - did not master, tried, but too crude and possibilities it is not enough. The code  on  you can look, there Qt.

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, rumit7, you wrote: Pzz>> Well somehow, a web-brovser with itself to drag (or to depend from preinstalled, it is not known what and it is not known, what version), it in my opinion, abruptly very much. R> what for to drag? And who HTML will be ? Pzz>> And then, HTMP+JS - not the most convenient tool that  to write. R> so you  on pluses also write the logic, HTML only to draw a picture On me so on HTML it is very inconvenient to do beautiful . However, I will make a reservation, I not special HTML .

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Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> And to claim hoses is? Segmentation fault it is considered? There is a such. CS> well there memory and CPU consumption, that we here consider speed of start and other technical dregs... I did not consider, what sense? On all these parameters and on Qt there are no complaints.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: Pzz>>> Well somehow, a web-brovser with itself to drag (or to depend from preinstalled, it is not known what and it is not known, what version), it in my opinion, abruptly very much. R>> what for to drag? Pzz> and who HTML will be ? Sciter (earlier HTMLayout) - built in  an engine

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> Thanks for a bug . More shortly, your hand-made article permanently falls: notes:/home/andrew/Desktop/sciter.stable/engine/html/html-actions-stack.cpp:2238: bool html:: behavior:: do_apply_list (html::view&, html:: behavior:: editing_ctx *, html:: behavior:: action *, html:: bookmark, html:: bookmark, html:: tag:: symbol_t, const html::attribute_bag&): Assertion ` list_items.size () ' failed. Aborted Alas

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Pictures from  are not interposed, clicked two times an icon <PRE> - it fell: Segmentation fault About, here for these thanks. WYSIWYG HTML editing it is nontrivial, yes. Bugs there is on determination.

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Re: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V> Who what uses? Besides ubiquitous  Qt and considered Stsitera (only today from this subject about it learned), there is still Dzhus: https://www.juce.com But it  and, in comparison with Qt,  by possibilities.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: CS>> ICQ from Mail.Ru uses Sciter. Or used - I do not know as now. MTD> Never used - did not master, tried, but too crude and possibilities it is not enough. The code  on  you can look, there Qt. Here only a fable to me do not tell. They began still with htmlayout there is remembered. Then on Sciter passed.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS>> Thanks for a bug . MTD> is shorter, your hand-made article permanently falls: MTD> MTD> notes:/home/andrew/Desktop/sciter.stable/engine/html/html-actions-stack.cpp:2238: bool html:: behavior:: do_apply_list (html::view&, html:: behavior:: editing_ctx *, html:: behavior:: action *, html:: bookmark, html:: bookmark, html:: tag:: symbol_t, const html::attribute_bag&): Assertion ` list_items.size () ' failed. MTD> Aborted MTD> Alas Too thanks. Already on Linux as I understand it?

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Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> Too thanks. Already on Linux as I understand it? I on Windows did not launch - wines  swore, I was reinsured and did not begin to launch, can there , and can still that, launched in .

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: Pzz>>> Well somehow, a web-brovser with itself to drag (or to depend from preinstalled, it is not known what and it is not known, what version), it in my opinion, abruptly very much. R>> what for to drag? Pzz> and who HTML will be ? Well so not server HTML draws? In Windows there is such type of a resource as Dialog is binary a format in which is described layout. Creation of dialogue it also is execution of it layout. Yours code-behind-UI it C/ ++. Sciter basically the same - only in quality layout definitions is used HTML/CSS. And in quality code-behind-UI or script (that is more convenient) or a C/C ++ or both on a choice - where that is more convenient. R>> so you  on pluses also write the logic, HTML only to draw picture Pzz> On me so on HTML it is very inconvenient to do beautiful . However, I will make a reservation, I not special HTML . Well as though if under UI to understand and Web including that of 99.99 % UI it HTML/CSS/scipt

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS>> Too thanks. Already on Linux as I understand it? MTD> I on Windows did not launch - wines  swore, I was reinsured and did not begin to launch, can there , and can still that, launched in . Is not present there "". At me here all client zoo : https://sciter.com/#customers

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R>>> what for to drag? Pzz>> and who HTML will be ? R> Sciter (earlier HTMLayout) - built in  an engine that it built in, does not mean that he should not be dragged with itself(himself).

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Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> Sciter basically the same - only in quality layout definitions is used HTML/CSS. CS> And in quality code-behind-UI or script (that is more convenient) or a C/C ++ or both on a choice - where that is more convenient. R>>> so you  on pluses also write the logic, HTML only to draw a picture With logic there is no problem. We, I suppose, nevertheless now is faster about a drawing we speak. Pzz>> on me so on HTML it is very inconvenient to do beautiful . However, I will make a reservation, I not special HTML . CS> Well as though if under UI to understand and Web including that of 99.99 % UI it HTML/CSS/scipt That does not do its more convenient...

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS>> Sciter basically the same - only in quality layout definitions is used HTML/CSS. CS>> And in quality code-behind-UI or script (that is more convenient) or a C/C ++ or both on a choice - where that is more convenient. R>>>> so you  on pluses also write the logic, HTML only to draw picture Pzz> With logic there is no problem. We, I suppose, nevertheless now is faster about a drawing we speak. And with a drawing that? Draws eventually GPU. HTML this tree DOM of elements + the bound dial-up of objects on side GPU which are drawn when it is necessary. When you receive times WM_PAINT and in it execute the code by filling  (primitive rasterizing) already left. 300 dpi retina monitor and old 96 dpi the monitor is two big differences - suddenly pixels in 9 became times more. CPU drawing - . Pzz>>> On me so on HTML it is very inconvenient to do beautiful . However, I will make a reservation, I not special HTML . CS>> Well as though if under UI to understand and Web including that of 99.99 % UI it HTML/CSS/scipt Pzz> That does not do its more convenient... Convenience is a thing especially subjective. What for you personally to eat "conveniently"?