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Topic: Library for creation of graphic user interfaces

Interests under MS VS2013. Who what uses? About QT and  I in course and Google am able to use. Judgements of those who with such libraries worked interest

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Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V> Interests under MS VS2013. Who what uses? Qt. Yes, there are lacks, but is better anything is not present. Sometimes run not that that schoolboys, but people not writing more or less difficult  a popular software and advise game like wxwidgets on which they as-time made  , to listen to them seriously it is not necessary. Everyones MFC is generally behind an edge to write something modern and not beaten by nails it is necessary to write so much code that the Qt turns out. There is still a development of one dear participant of a forum - Sciter, like when I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V>> Interests under MS VS2013. Who what uses? MTD> there is still a development of one dear participant of a forum - Sciter, like when I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct. Almost  antiviruses (except ) use all sciter! It is visible though if to come on their site https://sciter.com/. On mine a smart thing! Especially if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R> almost  antiviruses (except ) use all sciter! 4 identical  (a picture a background, nails beaten ) is that about what told, that is nearby zero prevalence. R> on mine a smart thing! Especially if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt And give, that you were clear what experience at you in development   on Qt will show the project? Here mine: https://icq.com/From this that else well I know, Telegram on Qt it is written: https://telegram.org/

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R>> almost  antiviruses (except ) use all sciter! MTD> 4 identical  (a picture a background, nails beaten ) is that about what told, that is nearby zero prevalence. MTD> from this that else well I know, Telegram on Qt it is written: https://telegram.org/be not lazy scroll downwards, there there is a list of those who uses sciter - "nearby zero prevalence" R>> on mine a smart thing! Especially if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt MTD> And give, that you were clear what experience at you in development   on Qt will show the project? I.e. to rise level with you I should at first .  with Qt? Thanks, somehow without me. MTD> here mine: https://icq.com/I congratulate, super! icq never it was pleasant to me the prehistoric interface, but I am really glad for you! And I do not doubt at all that  your calibre makes  though on crutches, it is necessary to compare only how much faster the same you made (well or  with smaller experience) using something more suitable for this purpose, for example on sciter.

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: MTD>> And give, that you were clear what experience at you in development   on Qt will show the project? R> i.e. to rise level with you I should at first .  with Qt? Thanks, somehow without me. You produced the thesis - to write   with Qt it is necessary to suffer. It in a root to disperse from my experience, therefore I decided to specify its experience at the colleague. As your statement without adducing any proof has been clarified. What for you mislead people?

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: MTD>>> And give, that you were clear what experience at you in development   on Qt will show the project? R>> i.e. to rise level with you I should at first .  with Qt? Thanks, somehow without me. MTD> you produced the thesis - to write   with Qt it is necessary to suffer. It in a root to disperse from my experience, therefore I decided to specify its experience at the colleague. As your statement without adducing any proof has been clarified. It is so unfounded, as well as initiating yours about sciter and about it " prevalence" - all is based on personal judgement of the person and its desire to scratch the right ear the left foot, at you it is at me is not present, on it and we stop to be secured MTD> What for you mislead people? Relax, there there is a button + or - let remaining us reason, there is no time for silly disputes with the fan qt

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R> it is so unfounded, as well as initiating yours about sciter and about it " prevalence" My statement is buttressed up by facts - enough in Google to enter how to <do something> in sciter|qt and to compare output, even on wxwidgets information in tens times more! R> all is based on personal judgement of the person it is not necessary to name empty imaginations personal judgement. R> and its desire to scratch the right ear the left foot, at you it is at me is not present, on it and we stop to be secured And again empty imaginations. I showed that I do, and here that you and as we at all do not know do. MTD>> what for you mislead people? R> relax I and it was not strained. Answer, what for you create noise and mislead people?

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: R>> relax MTD> I and it was not strained. Answer, what for you create noise and mislead people? I also did not create noise. You without having experience with sciter deigned to write: "when I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct". On what I specified the link where those who uses for a long time already scitter are described. Further I expressed the judgement received on personal experience about ease of development using sciter rather Qt. Probably it is erratic, but for this purpose is  + - over the message I think for this purpose they and are made. Where I could make noise? Unless I started to be measured ? Unless I without having experience with sciter its beginnings to abuse and mislead people?

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Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V> Interests under MS VS2013. Who what uses? V> about QT and  I in course and Google am able to use. Judgements of those who with such libraries worked except qt interest and sciter anything decent does not exist. A minus sciter that it .

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R> I also did not create noise. What for to say lies? Nevertheless in a subject is: if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt it was clarified Later that on Qt you  did not do anything. R> you without having experience with sciter deigned to write:" When I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct ". What for to have experience that fluently  and to understand that  about it it is not enough that speaks about its prevalence. It is enough to enter in Google how to <do something> in sciter and it will be convinced of it. R> on what I specified the link where those who uses for a long time already scitter are described. It is simple remains, on Qt such list in thousand times would be longer. Especially everyones  a-lja the student's term paper, on capital deliver: R> Further I expressed the judgement received on personal experience about ease of development using sciter rather Qt. On what your judgement, except imaginations certainly is based? Qt after all as you already admitted, you do not know.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: once again for especially quick-witted - experience  development on Qt at me are, not such big as at you, but is sufficient that I could compare to development  on sciter. On the basis of what I also do an output. Experience in sciter at you is not present, but it does not confuse you, on the contrary to you it is not necessary since to you enough to compare burst Google. Double standards in all beauty. I to mine recalled you, you threw out the code here and complained that you somewhere there did not take on with ++ courses. I and then noted that you distorts here and there a little. It will be necessary to remember you not to spend the time more.

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Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V> Interests under MS VS2013. Who what uses? V> about QT and  I in course and Google am able to use. V> judgements of those who with such libraries worked I interest passed on Qt (with MFC) about one and a half years ago. Personally Qt very much it was pleasant to me. I even would tell that being engaged on a C ++, Qt is the best! If to speak more precisely everything of what only I could dream, being engaged on MFC, it is implemented - and in very high quality - in Qt. Yes, it is necessary to master key concepts of library Qt, and then about any '  ' speech does not go. Additional bonus Qt - it ! But even if this bonus not to take into consideration, impression from Qt much more abruptly, than from MFC. It even with the registration of that I by development on MFC actively applied packet MFC Feature Pack (which it was earlier known as BCG Controls Gallery from BCGSoft).

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R> once again for especially quick-witted - experience  development on Qt at me are, not such big as at you, but is sufficient that I could compare to development  on sciter. You advanced the thesis - to write   on Qt, it is necessary to strike. Simply tell in what there were complexities or admit that in expressions it was incorrect. R> experience in sciter at you is not present, but it does not confuse you, on the contrary to you it is not necessary since to you enough to compare burst Google. To understand the technology not mandatory it is how much popular to study, an information amount in Google an adequate estimation for this purpose. It not clearly or is objections? How you suggest to estimate popularity? R> I to mine recalled you, you threw out the code here and complained that you somewhere there did not take on with ++ courses. Far it is not necessary to walk, an adjacent subject: http://rsdn.org/forum/cpp/6717561.1 the Author: MTD Date: 06.03.17 Now show where there complaints? Or you simply such  which says lies permanently?

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V> About QT and  I in course and Google am able to use. Is still http://www.codejock.com/products/toolki … 6s14z=zsp, it  V> judgements of those who with such libraries worked judgement such Interest -  libraries considerably exceed all that is on pluses - creation API on a C ++ CLI for development  on  - easier than it seems in the beginning

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R>> once again for especially quick-witted - experience  development on Qt at me are, not such big as at you, but is sufficient that I could compare to development  on sciter. MTD> You advanced the thesis - to write   on Qt, it is necessary to strike. Simply tell in what there were complexities or admit that in expressions it was incorrect. I expressed the judgement: that on sciter to me it was personally easier to create , much easier, . In comparison with this experience I any more do not want  with qt for a spelling . This my personal judgement, I impose it to nobody, do not agree put a minus, plus agrees. R>> experience in sciter at you is not present, but it does not confuse you, on the contrary to you it is not necessary since to you enough to compare burst Google. MTD> to understand the technology not mandatory it is how much popular to study, an information amount in Google an adequate estimation for this purpose. It not clearly or is objections? How you suggest to estimate popularity? Kol-in the information in Google speaks only about availability of technology, for example the paid and free will have different level because of presence in one of them though such category as students. Besides here it is possible to include also vital period of technology, its public relations. A pancake like this all it is logical and why I should chew it to you?! Further small kol-in bursts in Google she does not speak about that worse or not. You try to stretch an owl on the globe. R>> I to mine recalled you, you threw out the code here and complained that you somewhere there did not take on with ++ courses. MTD> far it is not necessary to walk, an adjacent subject: http://rsdn.org/forum/cpp/6717561.1 the Author: MTD Date: 06.03.17 MTD> Now show where there complaints? Or you simply such  which says lies permanently? There all text is filled by grief and the complaint about injustice.

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: MTD>> You advanced the thesis - to write   on Qt, it is necessary to strike. Simply tell in what there were complexities or admit that in expressions it was incorrect. R> I expressed the judgement: that on sciter to me it was personally easier to create , much easier, . In comparison with this experience I any more do not want  with qt for a spelling . This my personal judgement, I impose it to nobody, do not agree put a minus, plus agrees. Arguments at you are not present, that is you told lies? Well apprx. MTD>> to understand the technology not mandatory it is how much popular to study, an information amount in Google an adequate estimation for this purpose. It not clearly or is objections? How you suggest to estimate popularity? R> kol-in the information in Google speaks only about availability of technology As there can be popular an inaccessible technology? And you burn down. R> the pancake like this all logically Is not present. R> why I should chew it to you?! Yes, I understood that with the argumentation at you hardly - told lies and in bushes. R> further small kol-in bursts in Google she does not speak about that worse or not. You try to stretch an owl on the globe. You all time try to move down from a subject and to impose me what I did not speak. I told that popularity at it is small is the fact. MTD>> now show where there complaints? Or you simply such  which says lies permanently? R> there all text is filled by grief and the complaint about injustice. With complaints you did not result the citation, so you .

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Here mine: https://icq.com/If not the secret why it is ubiquitous in the code  is used old style of usage QObject:: connect? And still, why , instead of QML?//as a whole I understand that they are badly ground under a desktop, but after all  there not especially it is a lot of.

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: MTD> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: MTD>>> You advanced the thesis - to write   on Qt, it is necessary to strike. Simply tell in what there were complexities or admit that in expressions it was incorrect. R>> I expressed the judgement: that on sciter to me it was personally easier to create , much easier, . In comparison with this experience I any more do not want  with qt for a spelling . This my personal judgement, I impose it to nobody, do not agree put a minus, plus agrees. MTD> arguments at you are not present, that is you told lies? Well apprx. argument at me only one - mine personally sensation of operation and time expended in both cases. What you still want argument? The dude at you generally is not present experience with sciter, but thus you something there started to advise and do any outputs. MTD>>> to understand the technology not mandatory it is how much popular to study, an information amount in Google an adequate estimation for this purpose. It not clearly or is objections? How you suggest to estimate popularity? R>> kol-in the information in Google speaks only about availability of technology MTD> As there can be popular an inaccessible technology? And you burn down. To begin with cease to pull out citations from the full sentence, do not hurry up, try to think a little, I hope at you it it turns out - sense there idle time. R>> why I should chew it to you?! MTD> yes, I understood that with the argumentation at you hardly - told lies and in bushes. Where to me to you, something there . The l, then the beginnings , did not work with sciter - do not advise anything, simply write only about qt all. I even did not begin to answer. R>> further small kol-in bursts in Google she does not speak about that worse or not. You try to stretch an owl on the globe. MTD> you all time try to move down from a subject and to impose me what I did not speak. I told that popularity at it is small is the fact." Sciter, like when I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct. "That you wrote this that, I gave an example : from the most popular only kasper on qt, all remaining on sciter. MTD>>> Now show where there complaints? Or you simply such  which says lies permanently? R>> there all text is filled by grief and the complaint about injustice. MTD> with complaints you did not result the citation, so you . I think you can push the link which resulted and to read, after all it is not difficult?

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R>>> I expressed the judgement: that on sciter to me it was personally easier to create  Is not present, your thesis sounded differently, lies I already stuck you into yours. R> where to me to you, something there . The l, then the beginnings , did not work with sciter - do not advise anything, simply write only about qt all. I even did not begin to answer. Notably at  burns, what flow of consciousness went, a chair do not burn. R> "Sciter, like when I looked it to me it categorically it was not pleasant, judging by that I do not hear that it somewhere widely used, probably my sensations were correct." R> that you wrote this that And what not so? Sciter somewhere it is widely used? R> I gave an example : from the most popular only kasper on qt, all remaining on sciter.  - a drop in the sea. Sciter - it is absolutely not popular. MTD> with complaints you did not result the citation, so you . R> I think you can push the link which resulted and to read, after all it is not difficult? What for? From it you  will not cease to be.

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Hello, SaZ, you wrote: SaZ> If not the secret why it is ubiquitous in the code  is used old style of usage QObject:: connect? Not everywhere. I did not use old style, for remaining to answer, alas, I can not. SaZ> and still, why , instead of QML?//As a whole I understand that they are badly ground under a desktop, but after all  there not especially it is a lot of. Historically so, but if I began the project, I too would not began to use QML - too much magic.

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Hello, Vicul, you wrote: V> About QT and  I in course and Google am able to use. Judgements of those who with such libraries worked as All thanks for the information interest, I will understand. About results .

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Hello, rm822, you wrote: R> judgement such R> -  libraries considerably exceed all that is on pluses At once we will be defined about what "" talk: a) Pure WinForms; b) Pure WPF; c) DeveloperExpress.NET libraries on WinForms; d) DeveloperExpress.NET libraries on WPF. And so into the account of points a) and even (partially) b) I all the same would argue. I that "from a box" Qt5 is capable to provide results as regards GUI am not worse at all, than studio with WinForms and WPF. I write - not , and by experience of application above-stated.NET products. But, certainly, paid DeveloperExpress it appears not worse the same Qt. Another matter that I compare free Qt (without dop-libraries). R> - creation API on a C ++ CLI for development  on  - easier than seems in the beginning What for if is C#? By operation with  a C ++ (the C ++ CLI) is not pleasant to me artificially entered into a C ++ concept  links: This idea   to those receptions of indirect addressing (pointers and references) that are available in a C ++

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Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R> almost  antiviruses (except ) use all sciter! It is visible though if to come on their site https://sciter.com/. R> on mine a smart thing! Especially if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt Well somehow, a web-brovser with itself to drag (or to depend from preinstalled, it is not known what and it is not known, what version), it in my opinion, abruptly very much. And then, HTMP+JS - not the most convenient tool that  to write.

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> Hello, rumit7, you wrote: R>> almost  antiviruses (except ) use all sciter! It is visible though if to come on their site https://sciter.com/. R>> on mine a smart thing! Especially if it is really necessary  , instead of .  with qt Pzz> Well somehow, a web-brovser with itself to drag (or to depend from preinstalled, it is not known what and it is not known, what version), it in my opinion, abruptly very much. What for to drag? Pzz> and then, HTMP+JS - not the most convenient tool that  to write. So you  on pluses also write the logic, HTML only to draw picture UPD. Sciter UI, application architecture UPD. Sciter (earlier HTMLayout) - built in  an engine developed Terra Informatica. The Primary goal of an engine - web interface creation in  applications. Supports HTML, CSS, JavaScript-like language TIScript and DOM with some adding which are not entering into specifications W3C, but useful to creation UI [1]. The old variant of library HTMLayout worked only under Windows. Sciter, it  the library accessible not only for Windows, but also for Linux and Mac OS X. As engine JavaScript these products use TIScript.