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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Well, here it is the cleanest delirium. What on figs a fire from a computer?  it is necessary and to get rid of TV sets. They too in the socket are thrust. At me last  burned down with a good smoke and an open hole in it, before 8 years . Hardly there would be a fire, but nevertheless.

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Hello, guycaesar, you wrote: G> the Question such. There is a desktop connected through a router to the Internet. G> to it remote access also is necessary. How to provide trouble-free work during couple of months if the electricity sometimes disappears? Whether G> can  extinguish  even if in it applications will not answer request of shut-down? Yes. G> How then to start the computer at electricity appearance in a network? It is necessary, that 1)  was able to turn on automatically at pressure appearance, needlessly to push on button 2) to adjust in  that at appearance of pressure the computer turned on itself. Not all cheap  it are able. It is possible to buy, by the way,  with exterior accumulators. Couples of accumulators on 200 / suffices the computer very much for a long time. But it rather not cheap pleasure. G> and the most difficult - how to make far off  the hung up system? Without circulation of people. To buy the GSM-alarm system with possibility of control something (normally it is called as control of heating, but really the relay which can be included/switched off sms there is simple). And to hang up this relay to  the computer, or in feed circuit rupture (it is mandatory by means of the exterior force relay, in a relay signaling normally weak). It, probably, the cheapest variant.

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Hello, Arsen. Shnurkov, you wrote: AS> I consider that the selected servers are not necessary ( enough), and unreliability are hands or . Those are not necessary who says that something is not necessary. There are different cases. And saving it almost always the main of a priority. AS> in case of rent nothing hinders to rent some pieces at different providers and in different geographical points, to organize automatic switching. Well, yes. And hinders nothing to tell nonsenses. You come into a subject you speak and went further.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Well I do not know, it and so it is not too stable: periodically starts to brake, while you there do not twist something. To "brake" is can be for various reasons. The slow branch can at you in a routing way gets (here we are powerless). Sometimes at a sequel plans fly and it begins  on normal requests. Sometimes it is any young writer of inspectors of sites requests one million pages in parallel flows. And sometimes it is result  (estimate, blood someone spends for us). Ops> If "launched-forgot", complexities only with setting: at good hosters you not only  it through the web interface can, but also the console to and in OS load time . As practice shows "launched-forgot" almost never works. And in an initial stage permanently it is necessary to potter with the server.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> At me last  burned down with a good smoke and an open hole in it, before 8 years . Hardly there would be a fire, but nevertheless. What now to disconnect all instruments and to delete conducting? It can be with any electronic device.

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Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> at me  "NAS" has no option in  on autoswitching-on. Strange. In general as there with  I do not know. But normal computers without such option I did not see. Unless sometimes it has been hidden so that figs will find.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> That not clear? All with pictures in the description of the first comer the Problem that the first comer can just appear a shit. I here too thought such hogwash to buy for , to time it so became accessible now. And here there are questions: 1. Whether is  at which  trackings it is implemented in a type  service? 2. Whether this is able   web sites? 3. It is desirable that such  was not exterior USB, and internal (i.e. here such). But it is is specific at it explicitly  from item 1-2. 4. Reliability. Well to have  about usage to destination. 5. It is desirable, that was  for  (that the button could be pushed manually). Though and it is not mandatory.

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Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> Hostit on AWS instead of a computer with white static IP quits strongly more expensively? If the server loaded - it is strong. And as I already told, with  it is much more problems. If loading feeble, and the task narrow the simple virtual server suffices also. At us, for example, mailing of messages becomes through   the server on Linuhe. Its unique advantage - white IP. Those> At me interest semiidle, on the one hand  does not ask to eat and IP the free of house. Well, not that that the free. Normally for it take from 50 to 200 roubles a month. Actually virtual server  as much costs. Those> With another - it is unmodern (there is no scalability), there is no warranty 24/7, safety updates to roll. I to you in secret will tell that warranties are not present anywhere. By the experience I can tell that the more close physically the machine the to solve problems easier.  for a solution of a problem it is necessary bluntly new  to buy.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> to "Brake" is can be for various reasons. The slow branch can at you in a routing way gets (here we are powerless). Sometimes at a sequel plans fly and it begins  on normal requests. Sometimes it is any young writer of inspectors of sites requests one million pages in parallel flows. And sometimes it is result  (estimate, blood someone spends for us). I here about it http://rsdn.org/forum/rsdn/6903007.1 the Author: Sharov Date: 13.09 13:48, probably, about it http://rsdn.org/forum/rsdn/6916094.1 the Author: Stanislaw K Date: 27.09 11:54 Sensation that brakes at record in basis. Simply gives pages quickly. VD> as practice shows "launched-forgot" almost never works. And in an initial stage permanently it is necessary to potter with the server. Well it with a software to potter. And stable loading of OS to debug simply, if iron not curve-specific.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> the Problem that the first comer can just appear a shit. And I do not argue, the question was - how to connect, and the description there very good, with pictures, all is clear even to the blonde.

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http://miningclub.info/threads/udaljonn … -rom.4378/

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Hello, guycaesar, you wrote: G> And the most difficult - how to make far off  the hung up system? Without circulation of people. Here here about  from petroleum products above wrote. I solved such problem, at me also the situation - also a router with the USB-modem is more difficult, the Internet through this modem - too happens hangs up. In general the petroleum products-module to it and   undertake . The elementary is written , to   buttons of switching-on of a computer,  a computer, a router supply, the button of switching-on of the UPS are hung up. Further control of commands on  - the message is set number of the button and duration of "pushing". All was good on a paper, but in practice it appeared that: - to write  - it was necessary to dance with a tambourine to force to work stablly communication  with petroleum products-module - dances with a tambourine with a petroleum products-module supply - the petroleum products-unit too a dog hang up - it was necessary also  for most , made on 555 timer and a transistor key. - All the same as a result the infection stablly does not work - can did not carry with petroleum products-module, took in . Total - while a problem and did not solve, though the finish is close)) By the way - the basic moments - the UPS the automatic machine turnes on after supply appearance in networks, it is necessary to check up - at me so was, but after time of the UPS of the beginnings spontaneously to be disconnected, change the UPS entirely - not a variant. The computer elementarily - adjustment to turn on in a BIOS after supply miss.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> And here there are questions: On these devices I do not know. But generally, there is nothing impossible, I still was intersected about 15 years ago with a region grid, and children there, on especially important switches, put , with the IP the address and remote control but then it was expensive. Look, for certain there are still devices, with the functions necessary to you: basically, me even it is clear, as it is most to make, by a batch production it will be not more expensive than those Chineses.

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Hello, guycaesar, you wrote: whether G> Can  extinguish  even if in it applications will not answer request of shut-down? Can G> How then to start the computer at electricity appearance in a network? In  include an option "turn on at supply appearance" G> And the most difficult - how to make far off  the hung up system? Without circulation of people. To install there a board of remote control, c here such functional.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> I here about it http://rsdn.org/forum/rsdn/6903007.1 the Author: Sharov Date: 13.09 13:48 and, probably, about it http://rsdn.org/forum/rsdn/6916094.1 the Author: Stanislaw K Date: 27.09 11:54 Ops> Sensation that brakes at record in basis. Simply gives pages quickly. Such effect is watched both at Dedose, and at  plans at the Sequel (for what it is necessary to thank the MSEC). Write operations are not cached and therefore stick more. Ops> well it with a software to potter. And stable loading of OS to debug simply, if iron not curve-specific. Not only with a software. At the big loadings even  it was necessary to change. Well, and with a software too. When you nearby also can push one business  when it is necessary, etc. And another when you understanding through the braking channel, at the best, through , and even through the poor interface of a hoster and . Absolutely different level of control. Yes idle time with debugging. So I come on a site, I am connected to process and I see that happens. And so I need to play back a problem still. And it can be connected to same Dedosom and by the local machine it not to play back.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> And I do not argue, the question was - how to connect, and the description there very good, with pictures, all is clear even to the blonde. Time to you it is clear, would find to me  which did not demand loaded , i.e. would work as service or in the form of the driver. Itself you understand at us after all interactive session on the server does not hang.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> On these devices I do not know. But generally, there is nothing impossible, "Generally" it is not interesting. Details are always interesting.  I and itself can.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Not only with a software. At the big loadings even  it was necessary to change. And I knowingly wrote about good iron. VD> well, and with a software too. When you nearby also can push one business  when it is necessary, etc. And another when you understanding through the braking channel, at the best, through , and even through the poor interface of a hoster and . Absolutely different level of control. Well  to push the button on the web page not strongly it is more difficult, than to stick in . And why the braking channel - it is not so clear, it for a heap of users suffices, and for  does not suffice? VD> yes idle time with debugging. So I come on a site, I am connected to process and I see that happens. And so I need to play back a problem still. And it can be connected to same Dedosom and by the local machine it not to play back. And remote debugging than is bad?

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Time to you it is clear, would find to me  which did not demand loaded , i.e. would work as service or in the form of the driver. Once again: it is clear, as it to connect to Reset, read a question which I answered.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> "Generally" it is not interesting. Details are always interesting.  I and itself can. So I to you described devices of 15-year-old prescription which could far off  iron on your command. It is enough of it to implement any logic necessary to you within the limits of the task. And to what those devices  now, excuse, I will not search.

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The second supervising computer which has been built in the server is for this purpose used. At HP, for example, it is called iLO. Desktops here in run.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> And I knowingly wrote about good iron. Good iron is an abstraction, and in a reality I changed Intel card for a card for 10 , as they  at interaction with a switch at the provider. And glitches were very muffled. But the card estimate helped. Generally, with problem iron very often muffled. And it is simple that physical contact is necessary to define them. On the other hand, the probability of problems with iron at hosters giving iron in rent - is small. Ops> well  to push the button on the web page not strongly it is more difficult, than to stick in . Here it as?  should be and one still should work. And if it does not work, also ways to understand "why?" No. Ops> and why the braking channel - it is not so clear, it for a heap of users suffices, and for  does not suffice? I did not study this question. Simply you come from one provider (a place) - all flies. From another - brakes. Most likely business in . Ops> And remote debugging than is bad? I already spoke. The more close you to a problem, the are easier its detection. Even remote  periodically causes problems. Here it works, and here already - is not present. But, normally,  solves all problems.

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Hello, guycaesar, you wrote: G> And the most difficult - how to make far off  the hung up system? Without circulation of people. At me in the project it has been implemented on basis  . It is possible GPIO to cut it to "the clever" socket (to make such most) or  to cut to the button power/reset. Itself  for  it is possible to write a python, on  it is possible to deliver  a web the server or to include ssh the server that  all it.  it is loaded just at supply submission.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> So I to you described devices of 15-year-old prescription which could far off  iron on your command. It is enough of it to implement any logic necessary to you within the limits of the task. And to what those devices  now, excuse, I will not search. It is necessary for any logic: 1. Reliability. 2. Access to a biosou. There are cards which it allow. But they are expensive also I did not see them for normal PCs. Only for  servers.

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Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Here it as?  should be and one still should work. And if it does not work, also ways to understand "why?" Is not present. So it will work - the provider provides it with iron. The same , only it is not necessary to understand with the Chinese hand-made articles. VD> but, normally,  solves all problems. Well or so.