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Topic: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Remember earlier in ASP.Net made so the form could be collected purely in the designer? And  it was necessary also design view to develop for everyone, truth often simply a small square left. It rather abruptly was. Then  all removed and left  the HTML-editor. Because in  it is not convenient - support of the designer rather  suits only simple things, and. In itself HTML is it is possible to tell the best in a question of creation of interfaces of corporate applications. At all its lacks, yes, at it one big plus - the full pretentiousness and full . Huge popularity and, as consequence, an amount of libraries. However pure HTML th without JS does not exist any more. And JS offers Angular th and React th approach. In a desktop at us that? Is so to say HTML-bejsed GUI (or xml-bejsed, but differences are not present). There are still same form designers with the imperative approach, type WinForms. And is super-heaped up XAML, with  support MVVM and strict typification. But at all pluses XAML at it an essential minus - it not  also possesses low popularity. Certainly, is still GUI-tenologii other order,  so. By means of them it would be possible to make a 3D-site circulation on which would remind game in the theory. But it probably is too difficult for the majority or it is even not necessary. So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms?

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms? The skilled frontend-developer.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Shmj, you wrote:... S> So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/ … 57684.html

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, kov_serg, you wrote: _> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/ … 57684.html JavaFX Scene Builder is a visual layout tool that lets users quickly design JavaFX application user interfaces, without coding. "About how many them fell in this chasm" (C) M.Tsvetaeva Development UI layout that with that without WYSIWYG the editor occupies the same time. In the second case of 10 % of time you lead in WYSIWYG, and remaining 90 % this overcoming of restrictions WYSIWYG and struggle with design time an infrastructure. Well and more less worthy WYSIWYG it  the nontrivial task... In browser for example and the editor was not possible to make worthy WYSIWYG. All existing decisions have HTML source mode not simply so. As a result from a hopelessness we have any substitutes in the form of BBCode, Markdown and so forth

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, c-smile, you wrote: CS> As a result from a hopelessness we have any substitutes in the form of BBCode, Markdown and so forth WYSIWYG the editor are not in time behind development HTML/css/js In my opinion at level 2-3 years ago   solves 99 % of tasks GUI - on 1 % it if over development the designer instead of the programmer supervises there will be problems of type want that and only and if it to  that fell to it of 1 % a trouble well or to dismiss the designer that all process of Fleks a side already  did not brake, and here   and encapsulation of styles for the present is not present though already is in all browsers.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms? Proceeding from my experience the best it Angular. If the site is not loaded by forms, and has more difficult functional, React. Imposition, of course, the hands, all remaining is bosh. Even when the platform is ground on GUI-bildery like Cocoa, hands is easier and faster turn out more often, and in a case with HTML even to think there is nothing.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms? Much that invented mankind, but there is nothing better controlled forms 1 v8

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> In a desktop at us that? Is so to say HTML-bejsed GUI (or xml-bejsed, but differences are not present). There are still same form designers with the imperative approach, type WinForms. And is super-heaped up XAML, with  support MVVM and strict typification. But at all pluses XAML at it an essential minus - it not  also possesses low popularity. The MSEC now (reasonably) are pushed with Kzamarin. It it is real  and it is suitable in applications for devices, a desktop and even in games. Except that the MSEC standardizes XAML and itself . So the bad decision turns out not. It is especially pleasant that all main devices (from apple,  and the Msec Th), the Windows, Linux and Makos are supported.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, Voblin, you wrote: V> S> So, what the best can offer mankind for development of forms? V> much that invented mankind, but there is nothing better controlled forms 1 v8 the Joke jokes, but the idea is quite good. Here implementation - is traditional for yellow-red. avalon/2.0.3

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> the MSEC now (reasonably) are pushed with Kzamarin. It it is real  and it is suitable in applications for devices, a desktop and even in games. Games? A sound from a microphone? On it it is possible to obtain the data? And direct access to the accelerometer in accuracy the same received data as at native  or ah-wasps is? Including time  and possibility of setting of speed of inquiry of the sensor? How many loses FFT on it to analog on With ++?

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, loginx, you wrote: L> games? A sound from a microphone? On it it is possible to obtain the data? And it not its task. He still cannot embroider with a dagger. The task of Kzamarina - creation GUI. Here it is necessary for you for Xbox windows on to rivet? You take Kzamarin and easily them you rivet. L> and direct access to the accelerometer in accuracy the same received L> the data as at native  or ah-wasps is? Direct access in Java to something cannot be. Only through API. And it does not concern forms in any way. L> including time  and possibility of setting of speed of inquiry of the sensor? In any time! It not tasks GUI. For this purpose should be separate API. L> How many loses FFT on it to analog on With ++? And how many With ++ loses HTML? It is a question from the same series.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, VladD2, you wrote: VD> Hello, loginx, you wrote: L>> games? A sound from a microphone? On it it is possible to obtain the data? VD> and it not its task. Clearly, means slow useless for games  - all clearly, questions are not present more. VD> Zadacha Kzamarina - creation GUI. Here it is necessary for you for Xbox windows on to rivet? You take Kzamarin and easily them you rivet. For this purpose html and now it about a fluid-grid, is now simply super, anybody will not be compared to it, nearby there can be a postscript but it it is traditional for publishing houses. L>> and direct access to the accelerometer in accuracy the same received L>> the data as at native  or ah-wasps is? VD> in any time! It not tasks GUI. For this purpose should be separate API. What muck impractical  this  i.e. it is categorically unsuitable for games. In a basket. To forget for ever this word. L>> how many loses FFT on it to analog on With ++? VD> And how many With ++ loses HTML? It is a question from the same series. And it already from a series abrupt -  which as a matter of fact a jacket or  for a C ++ libraries, a python (numpy a source code on a C ++) there, dust, all in a basket. There is only a C ++. Then it is especially not clear that so the people against javascript took up arms, after all DOM on With ++ are written and js only  for access to a C ++  which manipulations with objects GUI, quickly and  do.

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Re: Development GUI: what the technics reached?

Hello, DenisCh, you wrote: DC> Jokes jokes, but the idea is quite good. Here implementation - is traditional for yellow-red. Implementation too norms. All country on it lives. At all further as today the cashier of a crematorium wrote out to me  in these easily recognized  .