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Topic: Article arguing iXBT.com: "Testing of processors AMD Athlon X4 845 and 880K"

I suggest to consider Testing of processors AMD Athlon X4 845 and 880K

Platform 4 in this plan does not offer any flexibility: or the drawing is in the processor, or it is not present generally.

Also what this passage means? What else there can be variants? As though is, but as though and is not present?

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Re: Article arguing iXBT.com: "Testing of processors AMD Athlon X4 845 and 880K"

This passage means that it is impossible to install the exterior videocard: the drawing or in the processor, or it is not present.
[off] it is obvious, I write it from system on AM4, connected to it on SSH. [/off]

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LionD

What else there can be variants?

As in 3 + for example, where video in a chipset wink
SlaveN_VM

This passage means that the exterior videocard it is impossible to install

Nea. This passage means that - is not able to quote
And entirely the phrase sounded slightly in more details:D

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Re: Article arguing iXBT.com: "Testing of processors AMD Athlon X4 845 and 880K"

But while in a segment of decisions AMD with the integrated drawing, no less than the cheapest processors, it is widely presented only become outdated but while in a segment of decisions AMD with the integrated drawing, no less than the cheapest processors, the out-of-date platform, instead of simply out-of-date microarchitecture of processors is widely presented only.

a12/10/8 Appeared in retail for am4, including E a series, with  in 35 . Truth not clearly what for it. If it is necessary for someone + at Intel the ruler is now better. It is especially strange that AMD central processing units are restricted  in 65 , could throw units to 95-125  and (or) video to make more powerfully/is more modern. FX 6000+ on RX quite quite good variant was was. And so, unless for fans AMD to wait new , but to make it it is possible and on old iron.
p.s. Processors are selected for comparing originally. The difference in the price did not confuse? Put at once the central processing unit for 50 thousand smile

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Re: Article arguing iXBT.com: "Testing of processors AMD Athlon X4 845 and 880K"

Here that under this phrase meant:
It is clear that the difference between 60 and 100 frames in practice will not be, but, in general, for this game Athlon - the bad choice. ?
If the difference is not present, why "the bad choice"?

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Or the drawing is in the processor, or it is not present

Logically...

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It would be interesting to look tests A12/10 against 1200 + 1030. The difference in the 4-5 thousand price Costs it of that?

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for the review. And what there with "" at carrizo? Whether It is possible to drive strongly  in sink NB? What does he think of decent storage? There were news with "" acceleration of 845th. Well also we wait for reviews apu 9xxx -  on what, processors there interesting.

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Korzh
yes,  is not able to quote. Sorry :beer:

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Rus_Wolf
Could throw units to 95-125  and (or) video to make more powerfully/is more modern
At them money superfluous? There a crystal which is developed some years ago - Carrizo. Updated  and packed into another . Any of the variants described by you is would mean to postpone for half a year-year release Raven Ridge.

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vvlADIMIR
Any of the variants described by you is would mean to postpone for half a year-year release Raven Ridge.
When let out APU at once it was necessary to do compatibility with am3 + and to do  apu, not to restrict apu 65 . Even then the platform fm was senseless, instead of it it was necessary to do a new chipset under am3 +, including video onboard on a floor-mat. To a board, under fx8 ***
Yurius
Well also we wait for reviews apu 9xxx -  on what, processors there interesting.
Than? These are two-modular fx+R7
vvlADIMIR
At them money superfluous?
They from sale of the chips have money. Last years 8 at  are not present built in the processor or a floor-mat. A board of actual video. That is a part of buyers to whom the separate videocard is not necessary, select i3/i5, instead of the central processing unit amd + the exterior videocard. And in this segment,  it appears either is cheaper, or is more powerful.

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Rus_Wolf
You are defined, to you APU or to you "a new chipset under am3 +, including video onboard on a floor-mat. To a board".
And for notebooks, I so understand, it was necessary to continue to let out  platforms that from AMD generally all vendors refused.

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Rus_Wolf

Than? These are two-modular fx+R7

Analog Carrizo is not present in ruler FX, all on richland ended. As show tests - 4 in general the competitor low i3 and to "hyperstubs", but an old chipset. There and then both AM4 and DDR4 which waited for APU. And I would not refuse from 8 modular fx with r3/r5 for 2D on 14.

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Korzh
As in 3 + for example, where video in a chipset
The chipsetnoj drawing hundred years during the lunchtime as is not present. And to refer to it in the end of 2017, especially implicitly, to put it mildly. Strange.

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Yurius
As show tests - 4 in general the competitor low i3 and to "hyperstubs", but an old chipset.
Never. An old, feeble platform, without improving possibility. Such even second-hand it is not necessary. And on am4 there is no sense to take these apu, in 2018 all of them to breakage go. And if it is direct built in video it is necessary, i3 6/7 series explicitly will be better.
vvlADIMIR
You are defined, to you APU or to you "a new chipset under am3 +, including video onboard on a floor-mat. To a board".
It was necessary to continue to let out  platforms
4 platforms certainly are better. Two of them of the cripple/bjudzhetki for a year. One in a museum and am3 + without .:D
Korzh
As in 3 + for example, where video in a chipset
For Intel too such was, including from NV. Only all it for a long time in a museum.

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Rus_Wolf :
It would be interesting to look tests A12/10 against 1200 + 1030. The difference in the 4-5 thousand price Costs it of that?

1030 will be faster even if it delivers AMD Athlon X4 950.  on Kaby Lake time in 2-3 , and GTX1030 on 40-50 % faster  AMD. C R3 1200 to take GTX1030 any more does not cost, minimum RX460 is better, and is optimal GTX1050Ti.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV_Fbb … 04A/videos tests CPU of this price category.

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(google.101879493787293770795) Gorbunoff Dmitr
C R3 1200 to take GTX1030 any more does not cost, minimum RX460 is better, and is optimal GTX1050Ti.
, and can at once a couple 1080, what video to look and photos of cats? 1030 most inexpensive modern card, in shops.
Vstrojka  on Kaby Lake time in 2-3 
For not a game computer it is absolutely not important. i3 costs on 3-4  less, than 1200+1030. It is possible 1 to take a disk for example or i5.

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Rus_Wolf
"For not a game computer it is absolutely not important. i3 costs on 3-4  less, than 1200+1030. It is possible 1 to take a disk for example or i5."
If to you it is not necessary 3D, what for to consider APU? It as AVX512, it too is necessary for all, there are different markets if you not included into this market it does not mean that all are not included into this market. It is necessary for Someone AVX512 and life without it is not present, to someone can are necessary qualitative the driver on the videocard and adequate operation Direct3D and Vulkan API. Someone it is simple  in a network looks and buys a pad. There are fans both Super PI and Win RAR, requests at all different.

Rus_Wolf :
It is possible 1 to take a disk for example or i5.

And SSD would take, on working and any PC, the sense from SSD has more, and if 3D it is not necessary, and the overall objective is operation in Windows/Word and the browser I5 there precisely it is not necessary, G4560 or analog SSD and 8 Gb of the RAM, well or a maximum it I3 8100, all that above already take under tasks which explicitly are beyond the typewriter and the browser.

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(google.101879493787293770795) Gorbunoff Dmitr
If to you it is not necessary 3D, what for to consider APU?
. APU just not for game systems also take. What an exterior card not to take. You generally except games on  launched something?
And the overall objective is operation in Windows/Word and the browser I5 there precisely it is not necessary, G4560 or analog SSD and 8 Gb of the RAM, well or a maximum it I3 8100, all that above already take under tasks which explicitly are beyond the typewriter and the browser.
To you it is similar surprising, but there is a mass of tasks out of games and the text where it is necessary not that i5, and tens Xeon, and here the game videocard is not necessary.
Requests at all different.
. At first wrote that without 3 anything above a stub is not necessary, and in the end as if other person writes that tasks at all different. At you there that two persons from one profile write?

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Rus_Wolf :
. APU just not for game systems also take. What an exterior card not to take. You generally except games on  launched something?

If not 3D what  to consider GPU? How I in NI Multisim will be helped by a difference between GPU?

Rus_Wolf :
To you it is similar surprising, but there is a mass of tasks out of games and the text where it is necessary not that i5, and tens Xeon, and here the game videocard is not necessary.

at you houses of such tasks are not present, from a word absolutely. Neither Word nor Excel Multisim  other programs of ten Xeon are not necessary.
If your tasks dedicated are necessary to you, and such machines are under construction individually on tasks. What for you carry the dedicated tasks in the world of office PC and the Internet , to me is not clear.

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(google.101879493787293770795) Gorbunoff Dmitr
It as AVX512
Incorrect analogy.
To someone can are necessary qualitative the driver on the videocard and adequate operation Direct3D and Vulkan API
Honey agarics other person writes. smile

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Rus_Wolf :
Incorrect analogy.

true, AVX512 it is not necessary for the simple person, and it will be not necessary still for a long time, only scales others AVX512 it is not necessary   house users, than powerful GPU.

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(google.101879493787293770795) Gorbunoff Dmitr
At you houses of such tasks are not present, from a word absolutely.
You for itself speak, the telepathist on departure.
If not 3D what  to consider GPU?
GPU c to consider you, instead of I.
1030 will be faster even if it delivers AMD Athlon X4 950.  on Kaby Lake time in 2-3 , and GTX1030 on 40-50 % faster  AMD. C R3 1200 to take GTX1030 any more does not cost, minimum RX460 is better, and is optimal GTX1050Ti.
Your words, instead of mine. You when scribble the chaotic texts, at least one page read back.

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Rus_Wolf :
Your words, instead of mine. You when scribble the chaotic texts, at least one page read back.

if GPU it is not necessary for you, why at you from comparing of speed GPU a pain in a back bottom? It from that that  intel there is poor? And you the fan and you touch it?

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(google.101879493787293770795) Gorbunoff Dmitr
True, AVX512 it is not necessary for the simple person, and it will be not necessary still for a long time, only  others AVX512 it is not necessary   house users, than powerful GPU.
You similar do not understand that without gpu a computer home do not collect.