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Topic: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

Hello.
Very badly I understand gland, especially in the server.
Therefore I ask to estimate the selected configuration and to help to avoid at least children's errors.
The server for loading from it 80 clients is required:
- OS (windows)
- The modern games (10 - 50 Gb)
- Storage in storage of a cache of clients before their reboot.
Unfortunately more precisely in digits I can not estimate it (iotop shows to 300m/s on reading). OS - Debian7.
Now with these tasks on 30 clients with frequent problems old man ASUS P8H77-V LE / Intel Pentium G2130 / 32Gb DDR3 / 4 * ST3500630AS RAID 0 + SSD 480Gb OCZ Vertex 3 Low Profile VTX3LP-25SAT3-480G / Gigabit LAN consults. / WD40EURX 4 for .
Problems appear at simultaneous loading of heavy games by clients, or at update of games.
The motherboard - Supermicro X10SRL-F
The processor - Intel Xeon E5-1620V4
Storage - DDR4 LRDIMM 64Gb PC19200 2400MHz Samsung ECC Reg Load Reduced (M386A8K40BM1-CRC) (on 30 clients one, then adding)
Network board - Intel E10G42BTDA X520-DA2
HDD - 2 * ST400620AS RADE 1 for loading (free)
HDD - 1.92Tb Samsung MZILS1T9HEJH-00007 PM1633a - games.
The controler - Lsi 00346 SAS 9300-4i <00346> RTL PCI-Ex8, 4-port SAS/SATA 12Gb/s
HDD - 4 * ST3500630AS RAID 5 (free)
HDD - WD40EURX 4 for .
Switch HP 1950-48G-2SFP +-2XGT for 10 on the server.
The power unit, cable to a switch, yet did not select cable SAS.
All budget, with a switch nearby 300 .
The main objective is speed of operation and the sizes of storage, for  I will leave an old configuration.
If "all is bad", I ask the moderator to delete a subject, the purchase the selected configuration.
Thanks.

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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The Motherboard - Supermicro X10SRL-F
The processor - Intel Xeon E5-1620V4
Storage - DDR4 LRDIMM

And if to glance in the description :
https://www.supermicro.nl/products/moth … 0SRL-F.cfm

E5-1600 series CPU does not support LRDIMM type memory

And - what for such brutal units on 64? On 32 normal RDIMM type, there 8 slots on .
Besides, in my opinion, there it will be strong more effectively E5-2620V4, than E5-1620V4 - just for a considerable quantity of users.

HDD - 1.92Tb Samsung MZILS1T9HEJH-00007 PM1633a - games.

what for under games to put SAS SSD - to me too it is not so clear, rests against a network, than in them much earlier. Use SATA, at least PM863a from the same Samsungs.
And it. At you all in air will hang or any case is supposed?

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

boris2017 :
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And if to glance in the description :
https://www.supermicro.nl/products/moth … 0SRL-F.cfm
The citation:
E5-1600 series CPU does not support LRDIMM type memory
Looked through, still yesterday thought about E5-2609 v4. In an adjacent branch read that 26 for 2 processor systems. Thanks.
And - what for such brutal units on 64? On 32 normal RDIMM type, there 8 slots on .
At cost it is almost identical, thought better to leave a backlog on the future. Or they from "atrocity" will work is worse?
What for under games to put SAS SSD - to me too it is not so clear, rests against a network, than in them much earlier. Use SATA, at least PM863a from the same Samsungs.
Here at me again a problem with  values. How to pick up optimal speeds of reading and IOPS for a network 10GbE? Whether the sense will use 2 ports of a network board?
The case probably wash IN-WIN "IW-Q2000"

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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How to pick up optimal speeds of reading and IOPS for a network 10GbE?

So it is not necessary to select for a network - under the task select smile
Certainly, SATA SSD rather SAS have approximately twice the worst productivity - but thus do not demand the additional controler and cables.
About the case you again did not write - and it too costs money.

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

The task as much as possible to increase speed of parallel reading by clients these tens .
Difference certainly in cost essential 30  but if speed rises in two - I likely agree.

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The Case probably wash IN-WIN "IW-Q2000"

all Cooks in it.
On  - well you adjust aggregation of these two channels, well receive 1 GBYTE/WITH a maximum.
So besides is and with SATA SSD it is possible to receive, not from two till 1.92 - so with 4 on 960, and all the same it will be cheaper.

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

Give advice about the case, not expensively and effectively. For this board and disks from 8. (Supermicro X10SRL-F)
And why it is not expedient to put DDR4 LRDIMM 64Gb PC19200 2400MHz Samsung ECC Reg Load Reduced (M386A8K40BM1-CRC) with the subsequent magnification?

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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Give advice about the case, it is not expensive and effective

In an ideal - such: https://www.supermicro.nl/products/chas … 45TQ-R920B
Or at least the such: https://www.supermicro.nl/products/chas … TQ-865B-SQ .

And why it is not expedient to put... Load Reduced

Because does not earn at first, and it is expensive secondly.

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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Give advice about the case, not expensively and effectively. For this board and disks from 8
You understand, what disks need to be cooled, and cooling will rustle? Server cases are ground to lead out heat in  frames, and the above temperature behind a board, the more intensively they will buzz, trying to lead temperature inside to optimal parameters.
[del] In cases with double power units (reliability +) stand  on 40 which really squeal if the temperature behind a board is more than 21-22 degrees. [/del]
[off] here I doubt, what exactly   squeal, because all of them start to sing (in the case and in ) separately somehow did not research. But I can precisely tell that server 40 coolers generally are not compatible in any way to silence, even on low turns [/off]
If the silence is necessary - cheaply it does not turn out, consider it

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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Besides, in my opinion, there it will be strong more effectively E5-2620V4, than E5-1620V4 - just for a considerable quantity of users.
For a file server? I doubt.
BTW, here and E3 perfectly would approach, for example
https://ark.intel.com/products/97474/In … e-3_50-GHz
boris2017
(On 30 clients one, then adding)
On me it is necessary to take laths on number of channels
On disks a_shats correctly wrote:
What for under games to put SAS SSD - to me too it is not so clear, rests against a network, than in them much earlier. Use SATA
I all it
HDD - 2 * ST400620AS RADE 1 for loading (free)
HDD - 1.92Tb Samsung MZILS1T9HEJH-00007 PM1633a - games.
The controler - Lsi 00346 SAS 9300-4i <00346> RTL PCI-Ex8, 4-port SAS/SATA 12Gb/s
HDD - 4 * ST3500630AS RAID 5 (free)
Replaced on 3 micron eco 5100 1.9Tb in  raid 5. Will be slightly more expensive, but it is more reliable [off] (loss individual ssd does not lead to loss of the data; and today's server ssd  it is more reliable hdd) [/off], is more productive [off] (as a whole, at least here there will be no bottlenecks in a type hdd) [/off] and is more silent [off] (less consumption - less need for cooling, and in itself ssd work silently) [/off].
Only it is necessary  loading on record - whether transit these disks on a resource (if is not present - at micron there is a series pro hardly more expensively, there is still a series max, but it is assured that it not for you)
HDD - WD40EURX 4 for .
No anything against I have, but it should be not unique  (to store  on the same computer, as the data - the bad idea, for example unsuccessfully burned down  can deprive of you all at once)
On this point:
Switch HP 1950-48G-2SFP +-2XGT for 10 on the server.
I would take dllnk 1510-52x, costs twice more cheaply
Adding from 9/17/2017 18:00:
boris2017
The server for loading from it 80 clients Is required:
And it is possible more in detail, what happens? On iscsi give images ?
Adding from 9/17/2017 18:02:
boris2017
iotop shows to 300m/s on reading
Gigabit LAN
It as it you managed through  a network to give 300  in a second? (~2.4 gigabits per second)

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

Good evening! I am the student and I ask the help in a server choice.:shuffle: medical institution it is necessary to pick up in a server stand (cabinet) the server of 19 inches for information warehousing of 8 terabytes (to pick up raid an array).
I stopped on two variants:
1. the server 1U Intel WildCat Dual Xeon E5-2600v3/v4 19 "(2xS2011-3 Intel S2600WT2/24xDDR4 ECC 2133MHz/4xHDD 3,5" or 2,5 "12Gb/s Hot-swap RAID 0,1,5,10/2xVGA/2hGLAN + IPMI 2.0 LAN/5xUSB 3.0/19" 1U for rack-mounting, 1x750W RPSU) [R1304WT2GSR]
- Model: R1304WT2GSR
-Processor slot: 2  LGA2011-3 Xeon E5-2600v3/v4 Intel Haswell-EP
-The case 1U, depth of 710 mm
-Storage 24 DDR-4 ECC REG 1600/2133 Mhz slots, . 1536Gb; for . Productivity to install on 4 pieces on everyone CPU
-Supported RAID:
1. Intel RSTe - SW RAID 0,1,5,10 for Windows
2. Intel ESRT2 (LSI MegaRAID) - SW RAID 0,1,10, . 5 for Windows and Linux
-Disk bays 4x 3.5"or 2.5" SATA/SAS 6G/12G with hot changeover + 1x5.25 "for slim DVD with support 1x2.5" HDD
-Emulex Pilot-III video 2D 16Mb
-Network: 2  GLAN (i350)
-Extension slots:
2 x PCIe Gen3 x16
80-pin RAID Module Connector - for . Intel SAS/SATA HW RAID controlers
80-pin I/O Module Connector - for . Network cards of Intel
-The power supply: 1x750W (1+1) Redundant PSU, the power unit with reservation, 2nd 750W unit -
-Control:
The selected network port of control IPMI 2.0 (for remote control KVM-over-LAN AXXRMM4Light unit setting is required)
INTEL SERVER MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE
-Exterior ports:
3x USB 3.0 ports + 2 USB 3.0 on the front panel
1x VGA port + VGA on the front panel
1x Serial port RJ-45
2x GbE port
LAN-port for remote administration
2. data stores 19 "2U Supermicro XEON E5-2620v2 2.10 GHz *2/32GB RAM/HDD 4TB *8 (32TB)/RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50/60
-Server case Supermicro CSE-825TQ-600LPB
-Motherboard Supermicro X9DRL-IF
-Processor Xeon E5-2620v2 15M Cache, 2.10GHz 2
-Intel STS200C heat sink 2
-Storage Kingston KVR16E11/8 DDR-III DIMM 8Gb PC3-12800 4
-Controler LSI 9260-8I 8-port SAS/SATA RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50/60, Cache 512Mb
-Gesture. Disk HDD 4 Tb SATA 6Gb/s Western Digital Red WD40EFRX 3.5"64Mb 8
[19 "2U XEON E5-2620v2 *2/32GB/32TB
Help, please! smile
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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

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1. What for to data store a dual-processor platform? Also is a platform "anybody", i.e. neither storage, nor in it is not present processors, disks
2. All ruler X9 is laid off very long ago. Second-hand want to acquire? And the same question about a dual-processor platform.
How many users will work with this storage, 8  is the necessary useful volume or the desire is simple?

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

At my place HP Microserver NL36L with a disk on 8 gives to a network on gigabit in some flows with loading of the processor of 50-70 %.
The girl (if you really girl), you address to experts-integrators, they pick up to you a config under tasks. Well  here then it is possible to lay out a config and its local people .

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Re: I ask the help in a configuration choice.

I do not understand servers, therefore at once did not understand about a dual-processor platform.
About second-hand and not second-hand: without a difference.
About "8  is the necessary useful volume or the desire is simple?" - in the job which to me a distance, is not specified, is faster 8  - as much as possible necessary memory size...
I so understand, the second variant is better for discarding?

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Julia08
1. What for to data store a dual-processor platform? Also is a platform "anybody", i.e. neither storage, nor in it is not present processors, disks
2. All ruler X9 is laid off very long ago. Second-hand want to acquire? And the same question about a dual-processor platform.
How many users will work with this storage, 8  is the necessary useful volume or the desire is simple?

Adding from 10/11/2017 21:21:
And what about here this server?
https://www.citilink.ru/catalog/compute … rs/440736/
Dell PowerEdge R730 server 1xE5-2620v4 1x16Gb x16 8x1Tb 7.2K 2.5"SATA RW H730 iD8En 5720 4P 2x750W [210-acxu-188]
The main characteristics
Hot Swap HDD, Hot Swap AC, presence of drive DVD-RW
The case
Case type Rack
Mounting in a stand 2U
Processors
For processors Intel Xeon
Processor model E5-2620 v4
The processor, cache 20MB
The processor, kol-in kernels 8
It is installed processors 1
Frequency of one installed processor 2.4 GHz
As much as possible processors 2
Storage
Storage type DDR4
Amount of slots of storage 24
The maximum memory size 3 Tb
The installed units of storage 1 x 16
The RAM, frequency 2.4 GHz
Hard disks
As much as possible HDD (2.5") 16
Type HDD SATA
HDD, dimensionality 2.5"
HDD, c spindle rotations 7.2K
It is installed HDD 8
Capacity of one installed HDD 1 Tb
Hot changeover HDD YES
RAID the controler H730
Support RAID 0 Is
Support RAID 1 Is
Support RAID 5 Is
Support RAID 10 Is
Network
The network interface 5720 4P
The other
Board of remote control iD8En
Optical drive DVD-RW
Singularities 2SDx16Gb
Operating system
Operating system Without an operating system
The power unit
, type Platinum
It is installed  2
Maximum quantity  2
Capacity of one installed  750 W
Hot changeover  - YES
The price - 436 490
It is installed 8 of possible 16 disks SATA in 2.5"volume of 1 Tb, remains 8 more for additional setting ( https://www.citilink.ru/catalog/compute … n/289073/) .
Only in any way I will not understand, what it is meant under "to pick up RAID an array"?

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