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DO>> From Irkutsk in Zhukovsky for 6 hours. SK> it is normal. , any calculations... I Come on a site s7, I search for the ticket Irkutsk-Moscow (Domodedovo truth), Airbus A320-100/200. Flight time - 6 10 minutes.

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Hello, Stanislaw K, you wrote: SK> Well. If to enumerate time of flight for distances between the airports, 747 and 320 average rate of ~850 km/hour. Rasschetnoe time of flight Irkutsk-Moscow (DME) without winds for 320 and 737 - five minutes to 6 of hours. A wind on an echelon passers for this flight.

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Hello, Stanislaw K, you wrote: SK> What for them to put in the schedule if it is possible to change height of flight and to ignore/use them? In order that on top you will not fly, and to fly below certain height means to burn too much fuel, and to passengers it will be not too comfortable in uneasy atmosphere. The matter is that the modern reactive engines are most economical at height. For example, for -320 lowering of cruiser height on a route on 2 km from the optimal causes reduction of a distance of flight at other equal on 12-14 %, and speed of flight decreases approximately on 20 km/h. It turns out that there is no special difference in time of flight and in fuel consumption to fly against a wind at optimal heights easier. If wind too strong, select bypass routes, but a word "bypass" hints that they not faster the shortest, under condition of absence of winds. By the way, tell, how it is possible to use a head wind for reduction of time of flight? Very interesting. SK> SK> Commercial use of the jet stream began on 18 November 1952, when Pan Am flew from Tokyo to Honolulu at an altitude of 7,600 meters (24,900 ft). It cut the trip time by over one-third, from 18 to 11.5 hours Now this nonstop flight occupies 7.5 hours half an hour from which is an advantageous influence of air flow. Reverse flight occupies 8.5 hours, if that. It is clear, why? And yes, it was the piston plane. Silly to it to refer, considering the modern aircraft.

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Hello, std.denis, you wrote: SD> http://www.ato.ru/content/nachalis-letn … heta-s-512 the First demonstrator who has received designation SX-1.2, represents reduced pilotless model S-512. Earlier it was specified that this prototype is calculated for flights on subsonic speeds and intended for check on stability and controllability.

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Normally, though I would be glad big and  more. Like serial such silt-96 was last. Not absolutely was. Revive manufacture

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Hello, Dejv, you wrote: Normally, though I would be glad big and  more. Like serial such silt-96 was last. In SSSR/Rossii Silt-96 was/is unique big and . About seriality it is possible to argue, truth...

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> Normally, though I would be glad big and  more. Like serial such silt-96 was last. K> not absolutely was. Revive manufacture Skoree Rogozin something declares. Some pieces, probably, make - in the governmental aviagroup, can the military man . It is a dropper that the factory did not die final, it not "revive manufacture". No commercial airline in senses buys it.

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TMU> No commercial airline in senses buys it. And than the plane is bad?

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Hello, Dejv, you wrote: Normally, though I would be glad big and  more. Like serial such silt-96 was last. By the way I was glad to something of type an-26 more. But it is valid

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> and than the plane is bad? 4 engines there, where at competitors 2. 3 crewmen there, where at competitors 2. As a result for  the plane quits the gold.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> and than the plane is bad? Too heavy for the declared range and load-carrying capacity. This superfluous fuel, superfluous expenditure for service Analogues is easier on tens tons.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> by the way I was glad to something of type an-26 more. But it is valid  What for you the easy military-transport plane?

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Hello, landerhigh, you wrote: L> And how it helps to solve a problem of a sound barrier? And in what a problem? I, of course, did not face the passenger, but  from military men in due time had heard plenty, strains where , than a finding in neighborhoods of the airport without everyones Ouse.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: L>> And how it helps to solve a problem of a sound barrier? Ops> and in what a problem? I, of course, did not face the passenger, but  from military men in due time had heard plenty, strains where , than a finding in neighborhoods of the airport without everyones Ouse. That to the Concorde was forbidden to fly above  over the earth. One of many reasons, on which them as a result and . And so would be to have abruptly London-Sydney let and with fit, but for less, than 10 hours. Women - it everywhere, and not just in airport neighborhoods.

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L> that to the Concorde was forbidden to fly above  over the earth. One of many reasons, on which them as a result and . And so would be to have abruptly London-Sydney let and with fit, but for less, than 10 hours. To me told that the ticket there 5 dollars was. Whether here also consider there are these 5 hours of saving of time so much. It is necessary to be really irreplaceable employee probably.

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E> 4 engines there, where at competitors 2. 3 crewmen there, where at competitors 2. As a result for  the plane quits the gold. At 340, 380, 747 too on 4. And first two  not become outdated

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: L>> that to the Concorde was forbidden to fly above  over the earth. One of many reasons, on which them as a result and . And so would be to have abruptly London-Sydney let and with fit, but for less, than 10 hours. K> to me told that the ticket there 5 dollars was. Whether here also consider there are these 5 hours of saving of time so much. It is necessary to be really irreplaceable employee probably. And it is other reason. And one more - already rarely enough it is necessary to be wound personally for ocean. All can be made  this your Internet and not to waste time for flights generally. On the other hand, there are people who buy first class tickets London-Sydney. And such ticket occasionally costs as an entrance in a high-rise building in Kudrovo. I think, just on such direction demand just would be, since the difference between 9 hours and days per the sky is felt rather clearly.

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> Normally, though I would be glad big and  more. Like serial such silt-96 was last. K> by the way I was glad to something of type an-26 more. But it is valid  an-24? Well so Silt-114 do. Only I at all do not understand, what for grumbling and emersion silt-96 and an-24? A basis of passenger-carrying fleet it  dimensionalities a-320 and b-737. -21 it just such plane, it vital first of all, instead of   or .

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L> On the other hand, there are people who buy first class tickets London-Sydney. And such ticket occasionally costs as an entrance in a high-rise building in Kudrovo. I think, just on such direction demand just would be, since the difference between 9 hours and days per the sky is felt rather clearly. Yes it is fine. 350 roubles . About their the first you I think . You will arrive vigorous and slept.

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K>> by the way I was glad to something of type an-26 more. But it is valid  _AB> What for you the easy military-transport plane? For regional aircraft, which . Now an-26 carries everyones .

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E>> 4 engines there, where at competitors 2. 3 crewmen there, where at competitors 2. As a result for  the plane quits the gold. K> at 340, 380, 747 too on 4. And first two  not become outdated It not competitors, they much more. 380 - the failure project, 747 - became outdated and is ineffective.

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_AN> 380 - the failure project, why? In a heap / already

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_AN> Only I at all do not understand, what for grumbling and emersion silt-96 and an-24? _AN> the Basis of passenger-carrying fleet it  dimensionalities a-320 and b-737. -21 it just such plane, it vital first of all, instead of   or . To Muscovites it is possible. And here to me where more actually to fly from  in . Fillability there will be worthless. I.e. the small plane just type an-24 is necessary. Incorrectly by the way about an-26 wrote...

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Hello, landerhigh, you wrote: L> that to the Concorde was forbidden to fly above  over the earth. One of many reasons, on which them as a result and . And so would be to have abruptly London-Sydney let and with fit, but for less, than 10 hours. Because of what? I here would forbid flights of helicopters more close 5-10 from habitation, they strain much more. L> women - it everywhere, and not just in airport neighborhoods. The cores  - at opponents of a supersound.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> to Muscovites it is possible. And here to me where more actually to fly from  in . Fillability there will be worthless. I.e. the small plane just type an-24 is necessary. Incorrectly by the way about an-26 wrote... You Think, if there will be planes of this class direct flights from each regional center in everyone become a reality? I do not trust.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>