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Topic: The poisoning in is more common a pit

It is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. At me anything bad from it done not happen - but I did it in  to a family, not in . It is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned.

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Re: The poisoning in is more common a pit

Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. At me anything bad from it done not happen - but I did it in  to a family, not in . It is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned. The same I do not understand, I in student's years ate all successively,  at stations, pies in electric trains etc. And later in everyones  had often dinner. Never was food poisoning. My judgement is depends on "a stomach fortress", I can eat and drink all successively (in reasonable limits), and here at some acquaintances simply from a glass of unboiled water from under the easel "the bottom breaks" "a stomach fortress" is likely stability of population of intestinal microbes to any hogwash.

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. At me anything bad from it done not happen - but I did it in  to a family, not in . It is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned. I think that in the core so.

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. And here if after some more hours were overroasted lies down, at room temperature...... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> And here if after some more hours were overroasted lies down, at room temperature... Will be Nothing, from fried meat it is exact. If you doubt - warm up to 100 degrees

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> Hello, pagid, you wrote: P>> And here if after some more hours were overroasted lies down, at room temperature... T> will be Nothing, from fried meat it is exact. If you doubt - warm up to 100 degrees the Poisoning it not only from any bacteria and viruses can be. And it is stupid from chemistry (any toxins were selected) and this chemistry  on yours of 100 degrees. Heat up potassium cyanide to 100 degrees, it does not cease to be from it potassium cyanide. : for example  breaks up at 100 degrees only in 25 minutes! And in a meat piece at  in thickness always-whether the temperature reaches 100 degrees? Whether always you fry meat a floor of hour?

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned. You met when people refused submitted meal because of perversity? I refused time and again, wrote to the book. Looked this book - there hundreds complaints, leave phone. But nobody rings, . All to spit on that book, it at all do not read. And as met people who at me refused, called the manager and so forth It comes also the such speaks - can cause a dignity. Station and to you tell that the meal satisfies to sanitary conditions. Though on a smell it is audible that the meal is spoiled. A problem still that at us it splash something. It is few smell, to hear it it is possible only if started to chew and as though you pass this air through a nose. And that, hear not all. I ask them than process - are silent, pretend little fools. Similar  sometimes process in supermarkets any cutlets and so forth Recently in Ukraine a situation with meal all is more difficult... It that like is, but how many lies and than it splashed - here as carries.

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Hello, AndrewN, you wrote: AN> : for example  breaks up at 100 degrees only in 25 minutes! And in a meat piece at  in thickness always-whether the temperature reaches 100 degrees? Whether AN> always you fry meat a floor of hour? In meat for  does not happen .

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ES> My judgement is depends on "a stomach fortress", I can eat and drink all successively (in reasonable limits), and here at some acquaintances simply from a glass of unboiled water from under the easel "the bottom is broken" by me here too guzzle all successively. All is accurate. And I remember somehow at you in a tree nursery gobbled up  which salved mayonnaise on which all the day long the sun shone. If 3 days from holiday am not mistaken was simply eliminated. Thought I will die still I remember on Phuket came in any  on bangla-roud. Opened . Awful smells. Decided to try their volume. Asked . Since in previous days all seemed insufficiently sharp. But it was any  a tin. Half-plates of tears probably poured. Minutes through 10 began. Till the morning did not climb down from a push. All right hotel in 10 minutes of walking. But it is visible not a poisoning, and simply stomach  from such spicy food. Because in the morning all was normal. Truth just in case till the evening did not guzzle anything.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> and I remember somehow at you in a tree nursery gobbled up  which salved mayonnaise on which all the day long the sun shone. If 3 days from holiday am not mistaken was simply eliminated. Thought I will die Here already there is an explanation the Author: Mazenrab Date: 01.11 16:18, here about us is the most true in the summer.

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Hello, GarryIV, you wrote: GIV> In meat for  does not happen . On what the confidence is based?

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. At me anything bad from it done not happen - but I did it in  to a family, not in . It is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned. When meat spoils, harmful substances which at cooking anywhere do not disappear are selected. At different people to these substances the different relation, depends on genetics. Some northern people generally eat spoiled meat as the main dish. Me personally turns back, from one smell can pull out, if I will casually eat, myself I will badly feel, more often pulls out later.

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S> Recently in Ukraine a situation with meal all is more difficult... It that like is, but how many lies and than it splashed - here as carries. In what markets the such?

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Hello, Evgeniy Skvortsov, you wrote: ES> I here  bought recently, then I look a cover was blew up a little. Some minutes deliberated to carry in shop to change or eat. ES> as a result decided to check up this . Ate - all norms, live and healthy. ES> so the theory of rejection of the blown up canned food demands specification. With  still there-here considering thermal handling (though I too hardly began to eat), but here mushrooms or we would tell vegetables I did not begin to eat under no circumstances. Considering that  one of the most lethal toxins with perfect extremely microscopic semilethal dose.

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> it is not so clear, as people are etched in a public catering. Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die also it it is possible to eat, even if a small smell. At me anything bad from it done not happen - but I did it in  to a family, not in . It is not absolutely clear, as  a poisoning and in what a problem with a stomach at poisoned. With meat heavily poisons, and here smoked fish easily (you at all will not note that it spoiled).

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Hello, telavi, you wrote: T> Here we tell if meat was a little impaired a little, it overroast, there all microbes die And toxins where disappear?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> with meat heavily poisons, and here smoked fish easily (you at all will not note that it spoiled). Meat too anything difficult, simply houses dry it less. It is necessary that) there were bacteria a piece thick enough that oxygen did not penetrate or  warmly more or less.

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Hello, AndrewN, you wrote: AN> : for example  breaks up at 100 degrees only in 25 minutes! And in a meat piece at  in thickness always-whether the temperature reaches 100 degrees? Whether AN> always you fry meat a floor of hour? The first time I hear that botulin-toxin decays from . There are clean data? Well and the botulism should not be got in ready meal, after all hinders both oxygen and short time.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Similar  sometimes process in supermarkets any cutlets and so forth For  there are the cutlets made of scraps, and also meat , it  from not eaten up cutlets.

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Hello, Evgeniy Skvortsov, you wrote: ES> I here  bought recently, then I look a cover was blew up a little. Some minutes deliberated to carry in shop to change or eat. ES> as a result decided to check up this . Ate - all norms, live and healthy. ES> so the theory of rejection of the blown up canned food demands specification. So specify, can at you bank with cabbage it was blew up - so there the botulism cannot be.

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Hello, Mazenrab, you wrote: M> With  still there-here considering thermal handling (though I too hardly began to eat), but here mushrooms or we would tell vegetables I did not begin to eat under no circumstances. Considering that  one of the most lethal toxins with perfect extremely microscopic semilethal dose. In   the squirrel, the nutrient medium for a botulism, unlike vegetables. But for  control on manufacture is stronger and heating up above with pressure in autoclaves.

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> So specify, can at you bank with cabbage it was blew up - so there the botulism cannot be. Under  normally imply meat. Pork it seemed , and on taste muck, I simply very hungry was.

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Hello, Mazenrab, you wrote: GIV>> In meat for  does not happen . M> On what the confidence is based? If you hold the durable time rumpled for  without oxygen in heat that it certainly all probably.