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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Kind time of days, dear colleagues! For what you so do not love the daughter? By the first machine it is necessary to take something reliable for without driving experience any breakage on the move can very much and is very bad end. Take what-thread  five-seven-year,  throw itself, or inscribe as  on credit, if with  not so. Do not forget to drive after purchase in service and to lead the full forcemeat - that all responses have been made, all routine maintenance is led, etc. By my experience, timely and high-grade maintenance - pledge of long life and high reliability of any machine, irrespective of a brand and model.

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Hello, Tyomchik, you wrote: Those> Drift is such thing - go also all well, hardly exceeded in a bend or one side into other covering drove (gravel or a pool) and greetings. "And then she as springs". Those> the Machine without electronic stabilizing of stability even basically does not need to be considered. Costs, if there is a desire to learn to control by machine, instead of is simple from And in to be moved. Those> it is perfectly wound on poles. On poles are perfectly wound and with ESP. It does not cancel physics. P.S. On an initial question, I such variant would not began to consider. The machine of such age most likely it will be constant to be strewed.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> She wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. At all I do not know what to tell to it in this occasion speak of Nothing. Money throw on something .

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Hello, koandrew, you wrote: K> For what you so do not love the daughter? I love, therefore and I try to dissuade from the given purchase. For this purpose I and  here this subject that people knowing somehow explained the given moment for it (still almost the child). In twenty years at it understanding of the validity - completely not such, as at the adult person. K> by the first machine it is necessary to take something reliable for without driving experience any breakage on the move can very much and is very bad end. At us in , as mandatory passage of technical-survey and after that the appropriate document is produced. K> take what-thread  five-seven-year,  throw itself, or inscribe as  on credit, if with  not so. It is good thought, it is necessary to persuade her still. K> do not forget to drive after purchase in service and to lead the full forcemeat - that all responses have been made, all routine maintenance is led, etc. By my experience, timely and high-grade maintenance - pledge of long life and high reliability of any machine, irrespective of a brand and model. + the 100500 + thanks, respected koandrew, for a practical advice!

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> speak Nothing. Money throw on something . +100500 Decision true! So if to wait some more months, to save up together, even if and to take the credit (on the adult - on me) and to find something  - it would be good. But when at the young lady burns, she does not want to listen to anything/anybody However, probably it concerns and not only ladies. I recall myself at this age Here in it that and a problem. Therefore I also lifted here the given subject.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> I Love, therefore and I try to dissuade from the given purchase. AG> for this purpose I and  here this subject that people knowing somehow explained the given moment for it (still almost the child). AG> In twenty years at it understanding of the validity - completely not such, as at the adult person. Yes it is fine to you! Not too for a long time 20 I at this age already in all  on operation was interesting to me that I at this age the machine would not like at all - though basically, , quite could buy. Perhaps because lived in Zelenograd, and worked in Moscow - so to stand in corks at all did not smile, and I preferred to have a sleep on the journey? AG> at us in , as mandatory passage of technical-survey and after that the appropriate document is produced. Checkup and maintenance - absolutely different things. Checkup checks only absolutely basic things - "wheels on a place? Brakes though slightly brake? Headlights-povorotniki burn? ! The following! "Maintenance deeper also is fulfilled under recommendations of the vendor for the given specific model of the given specific year - normally it is described in a manual to the machine. And by itself it always includes the full diagnostics. Many consider that it is waste of money, but here as with preventive physical examination - even the most terrible cancer revealed at an early stage, quite to ourselves we cure, however  always leads is disproportionate  to harm for all organism. I hope, this metaphor is clear enough AG> It is good thought, it is necessary to persuade her still. Well here already you should most operate To tell the truth, to me and would be heavy for persuading on a cow for it is sick it it is utilitarian - as the Chinese microwave from  But it is reliable - against statistics you will not trample.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> At the price nearby 2000 USD AG> Acquires it our daughter, which 20 years. It at it the first machine. Very much wants to acquire a car while it does not have family. AG> she wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. At all I do not know what to tell to it in this occasion Tell to it that in the evening on Sunday it is returned from a trip on a summer residence to the girlfriend, on  in thirty kilometers from ring at it the machine  and is not got any more. What will it do itself and what it will do then with machine? Seventeen-year  for 2000 USD quite can do a bit of traveling still. If it will be long selected by the skilled and stimulated expert therefore as their live there were units from hundreds killed coevals. If the girl at whom not that that the, and even in a car family was not - chances any selects.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: whether AG> it is necessary to take such here a device: AG> Hyundai Lantra, 2000 of century AG> http://www.automechta.by/catalog/show?id=4754 AG> In advance I thank for any helps! It seems that it is 2 generation? It is not necessary then to take.  it became good in 3rd generation which just in 2000 steel to do, but like it not it. ========= on a type machines of 3rd generation after face lifting run, i.e. I can and be mistaken,  I do not remember, what they were before face lifting. 3 generation after face lifting the such: the Quite good machine.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Here in it that and a problem. Therefore I also lifted here the given subject. Well then about what speech, let a beret, itself and on credit. 2 thousand - not such terrible money for life experience. Simply there is an every prospect that such machine brings more hemorrhoids, than favor, standing idle in service.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Acquires it our daughter, which 20 years. It at it the first machine. Very much wants to acquire a car while it does not have family. AG> she wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. At all I do not know what to tell to it in this occasion Purely my subjective judgement. In my opinion there are two types of repair: 1. Repair of an old detail 2. Changeover of a detail on new Many nodes of the car can be repaired possessing knowledge and tools. By analogy to the computer if the videocard broke, it is possible to buy new and to replace, and it is possible  the burned down chips. It for the general understanding how much different preparation level is necessary. Independent repair of an old detail is the cheapest, but it will be inaccessible to your daughter. There is a changeover, and here it is expensive. I do not know as in other countries, but in Russia the fuel price, whether it be qualitative gasoline or a role diesel engine in comparison with repair does not play. At the old car repair and changeover  can strongly exceed remaining expenditure. For this reason within 5 years owners there are new cars get rid of them and buy to itself new. Thus the second owner it yet so is bad, in comparison with that them can be much more. From the moment of purchase of the new car it is possible to lead a large quantity of actions named maintenance service. It is real , but the car as they say will serve faithfully. And it is possible  the car, then to sell to any little fool and to buy the new. Because of it I basically against purchase of the unknown person Second-hand. If it is not enough money, it is possible to consider a variant with a new foreign car, that is not the Russian brand which costs above in a rating of favourite cars of taxi drivers. As to gas it is full of articles where it is visually shown, how it destroys the engine. Therefore is not present, the variant on gas for  is bad. Not clearly who also that will put there. On such risk owners of commercial transport can go, but it is not necessary to normal people. Plus a gas bag in the car, and with it too not all so is simple. Eventually still depends on the price for a specific type of fuel. In Russia gasoline could cost cheaper much, as well as gas, and its price it practically entirely a policy of the state. Anyhow, but assume I the taxi driver, delivered the gas equipment,  the car going for a drive on it for days on end and without being put in the full maintenance service, still bragged as spared for the gas account, and then sold this shit. And everything, it any more not my problem, it now a problem of that idiot that bought it. Thus buying not the new car it is better to prepare for troubles at once. A rule from life, the good car very few people will sell for cheap, and here bad for expensive easily. Whether the answer to a question will expensively cost repair. Car repairs and furthermore car cost can superimpose foreign cars several times. At some happens even so what more cheaply to buy new, than some years to exploit the old. I not the clairvoyant to predict risks was specific this car, but from the point of view the risk of management needs to be considered it. Last, we assume the old car has been bought, that is everything, there is no place to disappear already, only if again to sell. At once drag it on diagnostics with the lift first of all checking systems responsible for safety, that is brake system, a running gear and so on. Not so it is terrible, if the car somewhere decays, it is possible to be prepared in advance on this case learning wrecker numbers as if there will be a failure for the speed.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Hyundai Lantra, 2000 of century AG> At the price nearby 2000 USD As a whole  is quite good. But for this money it is possible to take 3 generation, is younger and with time run in 2 less. AG> She wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. OMG! Pick up with  cheap, but reliable  on which it is possible still though couple of years to do a bit of traveling, and present for new year.)

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Hello, pugv, you wrote: P> Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG>> Hyundai Lantra, 2000 of century AG>> At the price nearby 2000 USD P> As a whole  is quite good. P> but for this money it is possible to take 3 generation, is younger and with time run in 2 less. I do not know, it can and is real, but at us in  about such prices. AG>> she wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. P> OMG! P> pick up with  cheap, but reliable  on which it is possible still though couple of years to do a bit of traveling, and present for new year.) To the girl in 20 years to wait two months when all everywhere burns... Well and independence wants - that for the money. P.S. Irrespectively automobile subject: we Assume, the person wanted to acquire what-lijuo thing... Further two variants are possible - a) to Earn independently and to acquire; b) to Receive in the form of a gift from someone. On my observations, at the first variant to (earn) the relation to a thing - much accurater and economical, than in the second. So, for example, if at me the mobile phone which I always buy itself on the, serves more than three years (and after that looks and works as new); that a mobile phone at a daughter, whom always  I (also I give on  or ), serve - well if about one year. After that it (fairly ) normally simply fails. Sorry, for .

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> It seems that it is 2 generation? V> it is not necessary then to take. V> Elantra became good in 3rd generation which just in 2000 steel to do, but like it not it. Thanks, respected vdimas, all the same refused Hundaja,  looks towards diesel Renault, without the gas equipment.

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Hello, koandrew, you wrote: AG>> In twenty years at it understanding of the validity - completely not such, as at the adult person. K> yes it is fine to you! Not too for a long time 20 I at this age already in all  on operation K> was interesting to me that I at this age the machine would not like at all - though basically, , quite could buy. Perhaps because lived in Zelenograd, and worked in Moscow - so to stand in corks at all did not smile, and I preferred to have a sleep on the journey? Means, it would be desirable something another. Speech after all is a little not about it In my 20 me, for example, it would be desirable an oscillograph (electronic circuits then developed and soldered). I bought a pervyyj oscillograph in 23. AG>> At us in , as mandatory passage of technical-survey and after that the appropriate document is produced. K> checkup and maintenance - absolutely different things. Checkup checks only absolutely basic things - "wheels on a place? Brakes though slightly brake? Headlights-povorotniki burn? ! Following!" I suspect that in Canada checkup such. In  - normally get to the bottom profoundly enough (especially if to the machine more than 10th years). K> Maintenance deeper also is fulfilled under recommendations of the vendor for the given specific model of the given specific year - normally it is described in a manual to the machine. And by itself it always includes the full diagnostics. Many consider that it is waste of money, but here as with preventive physical examination - even the most terrible cancer revealed at an early stage, quite to ourselves we cure, however  always leads is disproportionate  to harm for all organism. I hope, this metaphor is clear enough Comparing not correctly - any of the means, created by the person (including and the car) does not possess selfrecovery possibility. Unlike a human body. By the way, there were cases of treatment from oncology, without involvement of medical staff. P.S. In my understanding maintenance is all approximately how you stated, but 100 % of a warranty that problems do not get out - it also does not give...

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> to the Girl in 20 years to wait two months when all everywhere burns... You wrote that like only for courses gathers... AG> Well and independence wants - that for the money. It is certainly laudable and is correct. Can and let takes the credit if suddenly that - you will give for it, copecks. But to select such old machine all the same I advise very carefully.

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P>> Pick up with  cheap, but reliable  on which it is possible still though couple of years to do a bit of traveling, and present for new year.) AG> to the girl in 20 years to wait two months when all everywhere burns... So this: MM>> your daughter is not afraid of the Mechanical box, AG> It is a separate subject - meanwhile is going to register in driving school. About new year precisely waits)

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> we Assume, the person wanted to acquire what-lijuo thing... AG> two variants Further are possible - AG> a) to Earn independently and to acquire; AG> b) to Receive in the form of a gift from someone. AG> on my observations, at the first variant (to earn) the relation to a thing - much accurater and economical, than in the second. There is a such. But it is possible hardly to add. I.e. here a quite good variant for 3  (for this money it is possible to take already absolutely quite good car in sense of its state). For example, she calculates for the 2, and the father adds 1. Because here correctly told, a daughter will be hardly strong to plunge into independent repair of a car, i.e. she should pay for each trifle. The guy could.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Kind time of days, dear colleagues! Whether AG> it is necessary to take such here a device: AG> Hyundai Lantra, 2000 of century AG> http://www.automechta.by/catalog/show?id=4754 AG> At the price nearby 2000 USD AG> Acquires it our daughter, which 20 years. It at it the first machine. Very much wants to acquire a car while it does not have family. AG> she wants to take the credit and to acquire the given device. At all I do not know what to tell to it in this occasion AG> As I in the given subject it is not competent, therefore would like to know particulars AG> 1) As this machine in service? Whether Dear spare parts? AG> 2) how many (though approximately) it is necessary to pay in addition still that on it normally to go? AG> 3) whether the variant gas/gasoline is good? AG> 4) how to check up - whether in search the given car? AG> 5) particulars - on what it is necessary to pay attention, at purchase??? AG> in advance I thank for any helps! Was specific about this machine I will tell nothing, but from purchase I will try to dissuade. For 2000 USD you do not buy the normal machine. To take it on credit this madness. Upon it you through small time will have also its repair pours out in 500-1000 USD and it will repeat with periodicity in some months. It can make sense, if it is a lot of money, but even if the initial total on credit - the machine it will be simple to stand and rust in a court yard, and you will pay the credit that then even for this money do not sell. Buy the cheapest, but the new machine. If there is no money on new, buy at least thousand for 5 3-5 summer machine, but be ready to repairs, i.e. the credit here not a variant. It makes sense to take 15-year-old machines only to the muzhik with the house which under it will roll and repair and thus it still it is necessary to manage to select so that it though passed between repairs a little. To the girl who will carry it on the wrecker on HUNDRED and which will gather there, it is simple not a variant. If does not suffice - means it did not grow to the machine, or add and present to it the new machine or let works further.

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Hello,/aka/, you wrote: A> Tell to it that in the evening on Sunday it is returned from a trip on a summer residence to the girlfriend, on  in thirty kilometers from ring at it the machine  and is not got any more. What will it do itself and what it will do then with machine? In Minsk (and generally in ), we ring under mobile number 116 Comes  from this service: http://116.by and (, it is finite) helps solve your problems A> Seventeen-year  for 2000 USD quite can to do a bit of traveling still. If it will be long selected by the skilled and stimulated expert therefore as their live there were units from hundreds killed coevals. If the girl at whom not that that the, and even in a car family was not - chances any selects. Whether About there was in a family a machine is all rather. If a Zhiguli (shah)  for the machine, the answer positive, if for a variety  the negative is faster.

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> b) If it is the first machine  it is better that was cheaper? Or I here am mistaken? Disputably. Girls lead accurately enough. Well a maximum  at the beginning, it not so is terrible. Any hardy machine like  2-3 summer it is ideal, but with small run, such it is a lot of from under a taxi and other commercial transports, therefore find a good variant it can to be difficult.

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Hello, pugv, you wrote: P> You wrote that like only for courses gathers... Yes, but you the programmer (or where)? In what you saw the contradiction? Even if the device will while be in the yard, or its boy friend takes sometimes out it for a city that there sobriquets, it will be its machine... AG>> Well and independence wants - that for the money. P> it is certainly laudable and is correct. Can and let takes the credit if suddenly that - you will give for it, copecks. To a tufa-fie-fie! Happens nothing - itself gives, like not the child already. It not that total for which the guarantor is necessary. Banks in Minsk give now such credit even without help about incomes. P> but to select such old machine all the same I advise very carefully. +100500!

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: AG> Comes  from this service: http://116.by and (, it is finite) helps to solve your problems And here at KIA is such counter, KIA Assist, comes and solves your problems free of charge) I Remember, when landed the accumulator not out-of-operation plafond, foreheads with  arrived in flow of 20 minutes. Has been pleasantly surprised. Besides operates even after the warranty termination, truth if you continue to transit THAT at .

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> It is is specific about this machine I will tell of nothing, but from purchase I will try to dissuade. For 2000 USD you do not buy the normal machine. To take it on credit this madness. Upon it you through small time will have also its repair pours out in 500-1000 USD and it will repeat with periodicity in some months. It can make sense, if it is a lot of money, but even if the initial total on credit - the machine it will be simple to stand and rust in a court yard, and you will pay the credit that then even for this money do not sell. +100500 yes that for these, we will be then glad, if for a hundred part of dollars take vsb> Buy the cheapest, but the new machine. If there is no money on new, buy at least thousand for 5 3-5 summer machine, but be ready to repairs, i.e. the credit here not a variant. It makes sense to take 15-year-old machines only to the muzhik with the house which under it will roll and repair and thus it still it is necessary to manage to select so that it though passed between repairs a little. To the girl who will carry it on the wrecker on HUNDRED and which will gather there, it is simple not a variant. If does not suffice - means it did not grow to the machine, or add and present to it the new machine or let works further. All is true, respected vsb, agree!

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Hello, AlexGin, you wrote: whether AG> it is necessary to take such here a device: AG> Hyundai Lantra, than 2000 of century AG> http://www.automechta.by/catalog/show?id=4754 From such platforms to take better not, it . Search on https://av.by/AG> At the price nearby 2000 USD At such price it is possible to take a motorcycle , the car will demand constant nestings and as a result money gobbles up much, and pleasure any does not bring. It makes sense to add still $1 and to look towards the home producer, for example