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Topic: Difference between a city and village in Russia

Interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? In what the reason of it?

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Re: Difference between a city and village in Russia

Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> it is interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? RF> in what the reason of it? Stalin set a trend. As well as with medicine (low salaries), as well as with  (salaries above doctors). Rural generally for people did not consider, they both were farm laborers and remained. And passports started to produce only in 70. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50qodIFBoRs

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Stalin set a trend. And to Stalin the village was closer to a city? S> rural generally for people did not consider, they both were farm laborers and remained. Rural were not farm laborers. Were other estate, to 1917 de jure, after de facto. S> And passports started to produce only in 70. See here: In 60. Also did not produce "by default", if needed certainly produced.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: S>> Stalin set a trend. P> and to Stalin the village was closer to a city? It built the new order, it was not important that earlier. Here so solved - the village is people of the second sort. S>> and passports started to produce only in 70. See here: P> In 60. Also did not produce "by default", if needed certainly produced. Aha. And who solved that is necessity and what is not present?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> It the new order built, it was not important that earlier. Not on an empty place it built it. And "the new order" it what not from Soviet, and from the nazi of terminology. S> here so solved - the village is people of the second sort. And would decide, what the first and all would change at once? S> aha. And who solved that is necessity and what is not present? What exactly you interests? I can tell approximately about orders of that time, those certainly did not find, but in what case the passport to the Soviet citizen can be demanded I represent.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: S>> Here so solved - the village is people of the second sort. P> and would decide, what the first and all would change at once? To the USSR there was an industrialization. Cities grew. It is necessary to feed cities with something. It is clear that the meal is at peasants. But peasants in exchange need to give something, they do not burn with the desire to share with someone . But as labor productivity in the industry was the lowest, there was especially nothing to give to peasants. In 20 to batches there were discussions about methods, about rates of the decision of this contradiction. But Stalin who transformed peasants into dumb slaves that did not get in the way won.

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> it is interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? RF> in what the reason of it? Tickets in the USA expensive, and in a taxi it is dangerous.

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Hello, Kerk, you wrote: K> To the USSR there was an industrialization. Cities grew... All so, but it is not necessary to think that townspeople as cheese in oil went for a drive. Barracks, hostels and communal flats were norm of city life. The essential part of townsmen to 60 lived in "private sector".... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> it is interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? RF> in what the reason of it? The village became outdated already many years ago. The modern agricultural industry demands very small involvement of the person, remaining people should live in a city. I.e. villages should be divided into farms which should be a little and on cities (most likely the majority of villages should die, and people to move to the nearest cities, hardly there is an economic sense to transform the majority of villages to cities). The government does not support people during this process, and its natural course leads to that is available now (unemployment, madly unproductive survival on the earth, the psychological problems leading to general alcoholism). In an amicable way there should be a maximum state support of countrymen in migration in cities, support by habitation, formation, the help in job search well and the state support for development of farms (it like is), that's all.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb> the Village became outdated already many years ago. The modern agricultural industry demands very small involvement of the person, remaining people should live in a city. To many people to live in a city absolutely to what. Even among not engaged  agriculture. vsb> In an amicable way there should be a maximum state support of countrymen in migration in cities, What for? It would be possible to understand, if suddenly there was one more wave of industrialization demanding hands at factories and factories so after all actually there is a reverse process.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Re: Difference between a city and village in Russia

Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> it is interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? RF> in what the reason of it? Just in the Russian Federation a difference not so big. You look - like city, then you will get accustomed, as he parks the big black cart almost on entrance steps - is not present, all the same rural though was born in as though city.

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Re: Difference between a city and village in Russia

Hello, Glory, you wrote: Just in the Russian Federation a difference not so big. You look - like city, then you will get accustomed, as he parks the big black cart almost on entrance steps - is not present, all the same rural though was born in as though city. And what it has a subsistence economy? Or from what you solved that it rural?

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> to Many people to live in a city absolutely to what. Even among not engaged  agriculture. Still as "to what". In a city above density of an infrastructure so in recalculation on the inhabitant it is cheaper. And those to whom on its cost , completely not "many".

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K>> To the USSR there was an industrialization. Cities grew... P> All so, but it is not necessary to think that townspeople as cheese in oil went for a drive. Barracks, hostels and communal flats were norm of city life. The essential part of townsmen to 60 lived in "private sector". In village was much worse, nevertheless.

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Hello, vsb, you wrote: vsb (Kazakhstan)> the Village became outdated already many years ago... How there with clap cleaning by the Kazakhstan city students?

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Hello, Submitter, you wrote: S> And what it has a subsistence economy? Or from what you solved that it rural? Is-is. At once it is visible - the person , and a pig at it gluttonous, together with  which  needs to be fed up that did not squeal. It is similar on , and its spawn fat, short-legged - too. It it brings mixed fodder, in the big packets from "Tape". Which city - they got used to live side by side with other people and to them not to hinder, and here to be spread wide in all breadth on sidewalk is rural.

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S>> And what it has a subsistence economy? Or from what you solved that it rural? Is-is. At once it is visible - the person , and a pig at it gluttonous, together with  which  needs to be fed up that did not squeal. It is similar on , and its spawn fat, short-legged - too. It it brings mixed fodder, in the big packets from "Tape". Which city - they got used to live side by side with other people and to them not to hinder, and here to be spread wide in all breadth on sidewalk is rural.   I begin to see clearly!

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> it is interesting, dear colleagues, why in Russia such big difference between a city and village? RF> in what the reason of it? In godlessness.

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Hello, Ops, you wrote: Ops> Still as "to what". In a city above density of an infrastructure so in recalculation on the inhabitant it is cheaper. And those to whom on its cost , completely not "many". But not the city infrastructure under the full program is necessary to everyone.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, fin_81, you wrote: _> As there with clap cleaning by the Kazakhstan city students? In Kazakhstan a clap if grow up, only in the south and in volumes much more the smaller Uzbek.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, TMU_1, you wrote: TMU> Nepolitkorrektnosti  I begin to see clearly! If only  Or it is deliberate concentration on insignificant?... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> But not the city infrastructure under the full program is necessary to everyone. Yes without it generally it is possible to manage, without any. Our ancestors somehow in caves survived, having wrapped in skins. Only here the majority wants in  to descend, beer in a bar to drink, sausage in step availability (it is better round the clock), and the normal water drain, instead of a cesspool, or, at the best, a septic tank under a window.

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Hello, pagid, you wrote: _>> As there with clap cleaning by the Kazakhstan city students? P> in Kazakhstan a clap if grow up, only in the south and in volumes much more the smaller Uzbek. Simply too strange announcements are done by the representative of the country where the nomadic way of life was the core. Had not time to settle, at once in city prison cells to argue about psychological problems of countrymen.

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RF>> In what the reason of it? V> in godlessness. Well, it only in the distant east. In the European part  it not so, and the reason should be other.

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Hello, fin_81, you wrote: Not the fact what exactly our colleague the descendant of those nomads, but yes, on the considerable part of territory of Kazakhstan the village is some small houses in dusty steppe, among local population not very much was popular even to try to plant trees and shrubs in them. But in the south and the north/northeast quite suitable places should be.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>