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Topic: The next annealing of the Russian Railway

http://www.interfax.ru/russia/586146?utm_source=topmain "With 11/3/2017 sale of travel papers on reserved seat and general coaches in trains of formation of joint-stock companies"  "following in the interstate message, since date of departure from starting points of 1/1/2018" is closed - it is told in the message on a site. It is marked that the canceling does not concern high-speed trains. On October, 31st the Federal antimonopoly service suggested to reduce on 10 % rates for journey to the general and cars with reserved seats. Thus, according to representative , "daughter" of the Russian Railway of joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" in 2018 was going to index adjustable rates for 3,9 %. Ministry of Transport and Ministry of economic development and trade opposed initiatives, and decision-making has been postponed to meeting in the government. It if is necessary to me from  to  to reach (4 hours), and on an electric train do not get - to take a compartment? - It is smart, . Let then generally one lux leave I hope antimonopoly service arranges with it rigid anal penalties. And after all the most ridiculous - the main income at them at the expense of a cargo transportation. Why passenger not ? Greedy swine.

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Re: The next annealing of the Russian Railway

Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> it if is necessary to me from  to  to reach (4 hours), and on an electric train do not get - to take a compartment? - It is smart, . Let then generally one lux leave K> I hope antimonopoly service arranges with it rigid anal penalties. K> and after all the most ridiculous - the main income at them at the expense of a cargo transportation. Why passenger not ? Greedy swine. Because  - the passenger commercial company, loads carry the outside commercial companies, and the Russian Railway here at all at affairs, they only lease these rails? (Formally that so)

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SK> Because  - the passenger commercial company, loads carry the outside commercial companies, and the Russian Railway here at all at affairs, they only lease these rails? (Formally that so) fig  company History In 2006 within the limits of implementation of actions of the Program of structural reform on a railway transportation, the Russian Federation stated by the governmental order from May, 18th, 2001 No 384 for the organization and control of passenger rail transportation in distant following the specialized branch of Open Society "Russian Railway" - Federal passenger management has been created. In December, 2009 on the basis of property of Federal passenger management - Open Society "Russian Railway" branch the open joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" is founded. The specialized property complex has been imported To Open Society "" authorized capital stock, and also the staff providing passenger rail transportation in distant following is translated. With April, 1st, 2010 of Open Society "" began independent activity, as a carrier. The company is the subject of natural monopoly: order  of Russia from May, 27th, 2010 No 190 joint-stock companies "" are included in the register of subjects of natural monopolies on transport in sphere of rendering of services of rail transportation. Open Society "" activity in the market of transport services in transportation of passengers is subject to state regulation according to the Federal law from August, 17th, 1995 No 147-FZ (. From December, 30th, 2012) "About natural monopolies". On November, 20th, 2014  Russia No46 across Moscow is produced documents on the state registration of change of the name of open joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" (Open Society "") on joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" (joint-stock company "").

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Re: The next annealing of the Russian Railway

Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: SK>> Because  - the passenger commercial company, loads carry the outside commercial companies, and the Russian Railway here at all at affairs, they only lease these rails? (Formally that so) K> fig  K> company K History> In 2006 within the limits of implementation of actions of the Program of structural reform on a railway transportation, the Russian Federation stated by the governmental order from May, 18th, 2001 No 384 for the organization and control of passenger rail transportation in distant following the specialized branch of Open Society "Russian Railway" - Federal passenger management has been created. Open Society - opened  a society. The OPENED. Everybody could join the ranks of board. K> on November, 20th, 2014  Russia No46 on To Moscow documents on the state registration of change of the name of open joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" (Open Society "") on joint-stock company "Federal passenger company" (joint-stock company "") are produced. Well, also it is visible not all history of the company, but only convenient for citing.

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SK> Open Society - opened  a society. The OPENED. Everybody could join the ranks of board. It is assured that navels from  SK> well there sit, and it is visible not all history of the company, but only convenient for citing. Quoted all that found on a site

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: SK>> Open Society - opened  a society. The OPENED. Everybody could join the ranks of board. K> it is assured that navels from  the List of shareholders there sit, basically, is opened. It is possible to look. SK>> well, also it is visible not all history of the company, but only convenient for citing. K> quoted all that found on a site  Modesty.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> K> "With 11/3/2017 sale of travel papers on reserved seat and general coaches in trains of formation of joint-stock companies"  "following in interstate K> Well and to , behind a cup of dark foamy tea is closed, communicated recently with an explorer of a firm passenger train. They earlier in composition had 16 coaches, including luggage and restaurant, from them 8 coaches a reserved seat. From the beginning of a season 17 years a reserved seat became 6. The summer season of holidays, in October as always for the winter Now came to an end, a train reduced to 12 coaches. Temporarily unhitched, naturally, reserved seat. On others directions in firm reserved seats removed generally, replacing two-storeyed compartment. That is, the artful plan to remove reserved seats was and earlier, irrespective of these  with rates. Simply coincided. I two-storeyed from within yet did not see, but people tell a compartment small, tight, the third shelf is not present, the place for luggage is not present, only "hand luggage", suitcases it is necessary it is desirable to hand over in luggage. And it is separate money, and (in SPb) special queue in one window from 20 (all them 43, but half), because through the Internet works or in terminals luggage tickets do not sell. As an example, me to transport three articles of luggage (three suitcases which obviously are not located in a compartment) managed in 900  (from station to station, that is still taxi plus there and here). The Transport company "from a threshold to a threshold" delivered seven places for 620 , all days longer. K> greedy swine. #####.

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SK> Well and to , behind a cup of dark foamy tea, communicated recently with an explorer of a firm passenger train. They earlier in composition had 16 coaches, including luggage and restaurant, from them 8 coaches a reserved seat. From the beginning of a season 17 years a reserved seat became 6. The summer season of holidays, in October as always for the winter Now came to an end, a train reduced to 12 coaches. Temporarily unhitched, naturally, reserved seat. From native places a suburban train. Drag on three coaches. The people as herring in a butt. Also it is a working train. People from suburb go to a city on operation. SK> I two-storeyed from within yet did not see, but people tell a compartment small, tight, the third shelf is not present, the place for luggage is not present, only "hand luggage", suitcases it is necessary it is desirable to hand over in luggage. And it is separate money, and (in SPb) special queue in one window from 20 (all them 43, but half), because through the Internet works or in terminals luggage tickets do not sell. SK> As an example, me to transport three articles of luggage (three suitcases which obviously are not located in a compartment) managed in 900  (from station to station, that is still taxi plus there and here). The Transport company "from a threshold to a threshold" delivered seven places for 620 , all days longer. In luggage did not try to hand over never. And here in the two-storeyed swept. It simply tin. Really is very tightly. Things really could not be put. Even if it is simply sports bag typed by any shit. Was on the second floor. Windows in pass at stomach level. In a normal coach children ran from one end of a coach in another - not especially cool. Here it expanse - circles all road cut. To parents here certainly it is easier, but to me here it  did not rest. Who sympathized with those on the ground floor, since there a compartment in  under ground floor pass. I represent as they these children damned.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> from native places a suburban train. Drag on three coaches. The people as herring in a butt. Also it is a working train. People from suburb go to a city on operation. For such short transportations, on good, there should be a sedentary coach or an electric train. Reserved seats it is superfluous. K> in luggage did not try to hand over never. For the sake of a trick transit as  this unforgettable quest.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> and after all the most ridiculous - the main income at them at the expense of a cargo transportation. Esteem at zhd-forums that is created with locomotives, especially beyond Ural Mountains. The main skeleton of pull - 10 which it come from 50th years. Locomotives-chetyryohsektsionnikov any more does not remain,  in the core are cut down to two (for not all crews are able to address with them, and state of health at them any more very much - often pull separately). And ... Well, they it is formal , but often it is two single sections of different locomotives at which significant others already died also to repair are not subject, here and change numbers. As a result, " in " the composition conceived looks so: in a head two elderly , and in a tail the pusher (single or too , differently on local biases not to call in) can be attached still. And the most ridiculous that fuel all this squadron guzzles much more than if there would be a serviceable modern locomotive park of similar pull on the tonnage. But on KPI at management all  - on old  old norms, plus regulated maintenance by it is necessary according to plan is more often, than to the modern models (remember about 25 persons of attendants and 30 liters of spirit for the computer? Now compare to the PC). In general when will complain next time on  and crutches in the project, do not think that it something specific to the IT industry.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> it if is necessary to me from  to  to reach (4 hours), and on an electric train do not get - to take a compartment? - It is smart, . Let then generally one lux leave I already which time I go for a drive a family in a compartment. For - trains with differentiated cost of seats in a compartment - lower expensive come across, upper the reserved seat is hardly more expensive. I take a compartment entirely - and the wife upper berths, and to children children's tickets for expensive lower places - they strongly are cheaper. As a result the reserved seat, but in a compartment is hardly more expensive

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Hello, sambl4, you wrote: S> Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K>> it if is necessary to me from  to  to reach (4 hours), and on an electric train do not get - to take a compartment? - It is smart, . Let then generally one lux leave S> I already which time I go for a drive a family in a compartment. For - trains with differentiated cost of seats in a compartment - lower expensive come across, upper the reserved seat is hardly more expensive. I take a compartment entirely - and the wife upper berths, and to children children's tickets for expensive lower places - they strongly are cheaper. As a result, but in a compartment So and in what a profit of a compartment the reserved seat is hardly more expensive to the HARDWARE if it to go 4 hours? I prefer either the plane, or a compartment on distance longer 12 hours. But if to go 4-6 hours the compartment on me as is superfluous.