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Topic: is to you not the cosmodrome East

About exposures go now - will be downloaded. Here a material about building of atomic power station "V.C.Summer" It still florets, a small part of that floated. In the American press continue to publish the exposures, companies "Westinghouses" concerning errors during a construction of units NoNo 2/3 atomic power stations "V.C.Summer". New claims to company operation were published by the newspaper "Post and Courier". After learning of come into the hands journalists of the auxiliary documents and inquiry of the four engineers who were taking part in the project, issuing published the extensive material devoted to negative experts at purchases for under construction units. Expensive nuts Special perturbation caused convergence on purchase in the newspaper of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. "To us told:" the Price has no value ". You can imagine similar mentality? The price has no value?!" - The newspaper of a word of one of engineers gives,  to have a talk with journalists on the condition of anonymity. According to issuing sources, "not skilled the designer" companies "Westinghouses" put expensive nuts in the project, without worked at least to look for cheaper variants. Purchases of nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece proceeded throughout several years. The managers responsible for purchases, signed papers, without asking a question why such article is selected. The question of the price of nuts especially did not excite building workers." The Westinghouse "did not begin to uncover an amount of the bought nuts. The Manufacturing company" Dubose National Energy Services "did not answer request of the newspaper. By estimations of the engineers participating in the project, in total on these purposes" some millions "dollars have been expended. On a site"Dubose"affirms that the company lets out the products corresponding to standards for atomic engineering. But the given circumstance it is difficult to explain the high price for its nuts. Shortly before the beginning of procedure of the controlled bankruptcy,"Westinghouse"ordered for units" V.C.Summer "the next batch of nuts in the same vendor at the same price (114 dollars). This time the engineers occupied on a platform, interfered and offered alternative at the price of 2,20 dollars for a piece - and in"Westinghouse"their sentence approved. The newspaper adds that"Westinghouse"refused to make comments on history with nuts. One of co-owners of not completed units, the company "Santee Cooper", declared that was not in business course. The second co-owner, company SCANA, answered requests of journalists so - all comments will be only within the limits of conducted judicial lawsuits and listenings in municipal organs of the State of South Carolina. The fixed percent of Purchase of nuts on inflated price - only one of examples of the errors admitted by workers of "Westinghouse". Interlocutors of the newspaper mentioned washers for 40 dollars and bolts for 50 dollars. One of engineers told about how tried to suggest to spare on purchases of cables as under the design documentation in many places the length of cables was put with unnecessary excess. Addressed to the immediate superior, the engineer received the answer: "What for you brought to me the sentence?" . Dearness of purchases and passive response of managers of "Westinghouse" to any sentences on saving have an explanation in the conditions of the contract operating till 2016. It appears, "Westinghouse" earned 15 cents from each dollar spent for purchases of materials and the equipment. This situation changed only in 2016 when the arrangement with customers about the fixed cost of a construction of units has been reached, but to rescue the project from closing it could not any more." The Westinghouse "completely supervised that is ordered and that is bought, the newspaper writes. Throughout several years"Westinghouse"received the percent after delivery of the equipment and materials to a platform. For this reason the company carried out mass purchases" for years "before bought it was required to use, and also before the design documentation will be completed. As a result now on a platform huge masses of materials and the equipment, appeared actually thrown after a building stop accumulated. And much of them was doubled and in a reality and would not be used. An individual question - storage conditions of materials and the equipment on a platform to which engineers also had big claims. So, it was necessary to write off" thousand foots "the steel accessories bought in advance, that the wind and rains had been damaged their marking

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Re: is to you not the cosmodrome East

Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> Special perturbation in the newspaper was caused by convergence on purchase of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. There there can be a heap of nuances. It is not necessary to trust laymans from the newspaper.

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: DO>> Special perturbation in the newspaper was caused by convergence on purchase of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. A> there there can be a heap of nuances. It is not necessary to trust laymans from the newspaper. But solving, I think, there nevertheless it is described: It appears, "Westinghouse" earned 15 cents from each dollar spent for purchases of materials and the equipment. This situation changed only in 2016 when the arrangement with customers about the fixed cost of a construction of units has been reached, but to rescue the project from closing it could not any more. Just about nuts approaches - on the strange coincidence in 2016 the commission for purchases disappears, and in 2017 nuts on $2.20 suddenly appeared too approaching.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> Special perturbation in the newspaper was caused by convergence on purchase of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. About "expensive nuts" - ... It is the characteristic example showing concept "PETROLEUM PRODUCTS".

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Hello, fmiracle, you wrote: F> F> It appears, "Westinghouse" earned 15 cents from each dollar spent for purchases of materials and the equipment. This situation changed only in 2016 when the arrangement with customers about the fixed cost of a construction of units has been reached, but to rescue the project from closing it could not any more. Differently, the customer persistently demanded to use the most expensive accessories

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> the Individual question - storage conditions of materials and the equipment on a platform to which engineers also had big claims. So, it was necessary to write off "thousand foots" the steel accessories bought in advance, it was necessary to Navalnogo to send that the wind and rains damage their marking to them, it  on incorrectly stored equipment

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Hello, fmiracle, you wrote: A>> There there can be a heap of nuances. It is not necessary to trust laymans from the newspaper. F> just about nuts approaches - on the strange coincidence in 2016 the commission for purchases disappears, and in 2017 nuts on $2.20 suddenly appeared too approaching. Reminds attempts  to understand mathematics. In "Laws of Parkinsona" the case too has been described that "silly military officials" forced to use trotyl though is more powerful and cheap . If not to read anything, except Parkinsona, it even seems convincing. Certainly until you learn that such .

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Re: is to you not the cosmodrome East

Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: DO>> Special perturbation in the newspaper was caused by convergence on purchase of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. A> there there can be a heap of nuances. It is not necessary to trust laymans from the newspaper. Matter is not in volume to trust them or not. Business in most  round it.

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> About exposures go now - will be downloaded. Here about building of atomic power station "V.C.Summer" Someone to me there something about condensers for 50$ rubbed a material which super protected, and than the nut is worse?

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> DO> Dear nuts DO> Special perturbation caused convergence on purchase in the newspaper of "tens thousand" nuts at the price of 114 dollars for a piece in the presence of alternative variants with the price about 2 dollars for a piece. Here who to whom sold a question. If 2 private traders agree about such pricing that to the tax bearer absolutely  on it. Shareholders of the enterprises  as as here should.

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Hello, pik, you wrote: pik> here who to whom sold a question. If 2 private traders agree about such pricing that to the tax bearer absolutely  on it. No even if budget money does not participate by no means, overestimate of expenditures and profit understating is available. And most likely the budget is anyhow sawn,  the atomic power stations in the USA build without involvement of the state

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pik> here who to whom sold a question. If 2 private traders agree about such pricing that to the tax bearer absolutely  on it. pik> shareholders of the enterprises  as as here should. Yes, I waited for such comment. Certainly, two private traders, saw money of investors that can be

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Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> Yes, I waited for such comment. Certainly, two private traders, saw money of investors that there can be  you  once again to read that I wrote: 1. The contract between 2  the private companies concerns within the limits of the law only them, interests of shareholders (proprietors) and employees of the companies 2 are infringed. The contract between a state company (service ) and private concerns tax bearers and anyhow all citizens of the country. So what difference between 1 and 2? The different mechanism of influence (control) on executive powers.

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Hello, pik, you wrote: pik> here who to whom sold a question. If 2 private traders agree about such pricing that to the tax bearer absolutely  on it. pik> shareholders of the enterprises  as as here should. Well then in Russia corruption is not present for a long time already. On another do only absolutely stupid turnkey contracts not knowing about existence and  or absolutely impudent, which

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Re: is to you not the cosmodrome East

Hello, Dym On, you wrote: DO> About exposures go now - will be downloaded. Here a material about atomic power station "V.C.Summer" DO building> It still florets, a small part of that floated. DO> [q] DO> in the American press continue to publish the exposures, companies "Westinghouses" concerning errors during a construction of units NoNo 2/3 atomic power stations "V.C.Summer". New claims to company operation were published by the newspaper "Post and Courier". Well, we admit Vestinghauz sawed the budget, but the American budget. If you not the citizen of the USA also do not live in the USA, to you should be not warm, is not cold from this news. And the cosmodrome East - was under construction on money of the Russian budget, not on money from the American budget and if there there were wastes it is bad.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> Differently, the customer persistently demanded to use the most expensive accessories Logically if representatives of the customer received rollback.

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Hello, biochemist, you wrote: S>> Differently, the customer persistently demanded to use the most expensive accessories B> Logically if representatives of the customer received rollback. I do not see communication. Rollback can be received irrespective of the price

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> I do not see communication. Rollback can be received irrespective of the price  So rollback it as the part of cost of the order, independently does not turn out in any way.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> I do not see communication. Rollback can be received irrespective of the price  Never simply you was engaged in business: than above the contract price, those more rollback.

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Hello, fmiracle, you wrote: F> Just about nuts approaches - on the strange coincidence in 2016 the commission for purchases disappears, and in 2017 nuts on $2.20 suddenly appeared too approaching. Instead of it can appear so, what these for 2.20 lead to spoilage and potentially to failure in the future? If it is nuts for radioactive (or potentially radioactive) zones, their material should be radiatsionno-steady and there still the heap of parameters can be, which finish its cost to 114 dollars for a piece. So it is necessary to compare rated engineering requirements to nuts and characteristics of their specific types.

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Hello, Michael7, you wrote: F>> Just about nuts approaches - on the strange coincidence in 2016 the commission for purchases disappears, and in 2017 nuts on $2.20 suddenly appeared too approaching. M> instead of it can appear so, what these for 2.20 lead to spoilage and potentially to failure in the future? M> if it is nuts for radioactive (or potentially radioactive) zones, their material should be radiatsionno-steady and there still the heap of parameters can be, which finish its cost to 114 dollars for a piece. So it is necessary to compare rated engineering requirements to nuts and characteristics of their specific types. Well, same not I offered them, and the engineers developing the given atomic power station. Shortly before the beginning of procedure of the controlled bankruptcy, "Westinghouse" ordered for units "V.C.Summer" the next batch of nuts in the same vendor at the same price (114 dollars). This time the engineers occupied on a platform, interfered and offered alternative at the price of 2,20 dollars for a piece - and in "Westinghouse" their sentence approved. If the engineers developing there the atomic power station do not consider the requirement  etc., etc., etc. that it still worse, than