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Re: How you survived after appearance of the child?

Hello, 13akaEagle, you wrote: E> At me at once  appeared. Children slept in the beds, we with the wife in the. There was a period, year in 3, apparently, when children permanently resorted in our bed and it was very inconvenient to sleep. Here with it it was necessary to struggle. I ran somewhere with 2.5 till 4.5 years, the blessing a bed at us huge and places sufficed all it was not possible to disaccustom In any way, and a year later somewhere we generally ceased to hear as they come. Went to bed together, woke up four together Then moved to new apartment, bought it new beds, and explained that now at all of them new and it is necessary to sleep at itself. Few times specially did not sleep, caught in night and conducted reversely. For some reason in new apartment this method worked.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? We slept (almost) easy in one room. I on  type "I got hungry" generally did not react almost at night. S> and that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. The most important thing it to enter into the rhythm of feeding and as above wrote to keep to a certain diet. There is some subset of products which can cause gases, an allergy . Esteem books about feeding, look at Komarovsky. S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. A hogwash all it. Here when at us the second was born in one and a half year is there was a real hardcore. It appeared what to be controlled with one small child generally a hogwash, and here with two without the indirect help a real puzzle.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. As it was right And some get at once that, and have not time to live. It yes S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Together and separately depending on a situation when I feel that I will die from a sleep debt I go to other room S> And that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. And then still teeth to be cut , to mine already 10 , and we only as began to sleep 1.5 weeks more (4-5 hours) S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. Suffer the Cossack,  you will be, it for a long time S> Can in an ideal it and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). After feeding it needs to be held, that there was an eructation, to change pampers and . All occupies minutes 40 at the best. Yet always at once falls asleep, so remains less than 2 hours on a dream to the person on duty. Sometimes resolves more, but it is rare. And after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? And still the class method all with all to squabble

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Hello, Dead Down, you wrote: S>> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? > At this stage as a rule muzhiks leave a family. Weaklings leave a family.  and in bushes - the muzhik? Not.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Burn all together in  in one room. There were gripes about 3 months, rescued coffee + chocolate on operation. Slept for 4-6 hours a day. S> and that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. It is possible to put the child between parents and at night let the wife simply gives a breast: the child eats practically without waking up. S> it can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). After feeding it needs to be held, that there was an eructation, to change pampers and . All occupies minutes 40 at the best. Yet always at once falls asleep, so remains less than 2 hours on a dream to the person on duty. Sometimes resolves more, but it is rare. And after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Find! Simply it is not necessary to consider all it as penal servitude. In a campaign nobody is strained by absence of customary conveniences? There other pluses. And with children.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> And that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. You did not try to make the hermetic soundproof container for? And to feed under the schedule.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? All 3 times - norms S> Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? I sleep with the wife in one bed always the child - whether nearby in bed S> It was possible to get enough sleep? Sometimes it is possible, S> a month sometimes is not possible transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. It becomes exact not easier, it will be heavy, but in another way S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? A key at you in a head

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Hello, Evgeniy Skvortsov, you wrote: ES> There is a version that mummies should think a head, instead of one place. ES> my wife during feeding by a breast was on enough restricted diet, what sharp, fried, many products eliminated from a diet. Unfortunately, the strict diet of mother works no means always

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Hello, Glory, you wrote: you did not try to make the hermetic soundproof container for? And to feed under the schedule. Here whence you such with Down Dead undertake

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? It was such silent and quiet time. Fed, changed , three hours it is free. In case of whims it was possible to swing on one hand almost on a palm. S> me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? "You here sit houses, have a rest after operation, and your small daughter approaches to you and such women to you on the person a plastic blade,  and escaped. What for? For what? Absolutely not clearly..." ( from here)

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. The whiner you At others happened and is worse... And here I do not remember, that someone from acquaintances/relatives complained so. Problems should be solved... More shortly - it is necessary to be the muzhik.

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Hello, Evgeniy Skvortsov, you wrote: ES> There is a version that mummies should think a head, instead of one place. ES> my wife during feeding by a breast was on enough restricted diet, what sharp, fried, many products eliminated from a diet. ES> therefore children slept easily also a stomach did not suffer. There is a version, what "gripes" are a next type of a joke - the Doctor, and what in my diagnosis means ".."? - The devil only knows! Any unambiguous acknowledgement that any products causes gripes, and any is not present, and is not present. Equally as there is no also a common opinion that it  the such. We only noted that the daughter does not love, when mum eats pickles. To the son was generally ,  with pepper, a stake there, etc.

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Hello, landerhigh, you wrote: L> There is a version that "gripes" are a next type of a joke Not always. There is shit of green color,  at night. And after dose acceptance  there is a chance 1-2 hours to have a sleep easy. Gripes - not gripes, but something was.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Month, aha. The first 18 years - the most difficult. If it is serious, after a year is easier. Yes, and it, you rejoice, to shout while it is loud cannot. Here hardly grows up - then you will see a difference. S> forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. Judging by that, how many you scribble on , forces at you remains .

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Hello, pagid, you wrote:> you did not try to make the hermetic soundproof container for? And to feed under the schedule. P> here whence you such with Down Dead undertake I simply in the childhood not shouted, under stories of my mum. And the cat at me does not shout both a thing does not tear up, and the dog does not bark how much in vain, as at some. And  children it is simple other biological type.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> some get at once, and have not time to live. And I and till a marriage lived

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Hardly survived. The ass was full. And, the wife forgot about this ass though not less me suffered, and  of one thinks. And I   remember all these cries, and  once again to the same ass to get - sincerely I do not understand. Time  - also suffices in my opinion. Thank God on operation I had a moment when it was possible to pull all - differently I do not know that with career would be. S> And that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. It still that. It at me shouted approximately till two years. Neighbors in  started even police to cause the moment. And what I can make? Can at it there teeth are cut - could make nothing, and at  were watched, and drops gave, and to itself took to sleep, and with it slept, . While itself did not cease to shout - and shouted. S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. In  also it is not becomes easier than months. More likely, in  years, to years there to three approximately. And, at level of a vegetable marrow at me feelings to this being generally practically were not, which as that there would compensate cries. Here when at it the person and brains hatched, approximately around 2.5 years - then yes, feelings appeared. S> me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? At many children , such parents cannot simply understand, how children can to rejoice. Then, at women mechanisms in a head are  - they very quickly forget about all hardship against the child bringing pleasure. And they would like still. I here is how the man of such mechanism have no, and I remember everything, completely. And consequently to me  did not surrender once again in it to walk smack. And she - forgot at all as was sorry about that that got it in due time against those problems that were.

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> Simply it is necessary to give birth to 30. By the way yes. When got used to comfort and to life such what suits you - difficult child to get - it is necessary to break same all. And the child is as army, it needs to be endured, such really it is better to transit by youth.

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> it is not a pity them? They with you , now also with your children? Generally, it is the natural mechanism at  - the help of grandmothers and grandfathers, on it it is much based, unaided the horse-radish can support a society the positive demography.

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Hello, De-Bill, you wrote: DB> And  then generally to marry or live together if not to get children? It is possible to meet simply. For children too it is not necessary to marry. It is necessary to marry if the wife - the equivalent partner and it is necessary to fix legally it in respect of possession of property.

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I am simple in the childhood did not shout, under stories of my mum. And the cat at me does not shout both a thing does not tear up, and the dog does not bark how much in vain, as at some.... And mosquitoes do not bite you - are afraid to poison.

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Hello, Grizzli, you wrote: G> in  also it is not becomes easier than months. More likely, in  years, to years there to three approximately. And, at level of a vegetable marrow at me feelings to this being generally practically were not, which as that there would compensate cries. Here when at it the person and brains hatched, approximately around 2.5 years - then yes, feelings appeared. With each new child parent feelings become stronger, it at many fathers noted. Well and more easy somehow you concern to , you do not shiver over the child. Subsequent go easier in this plan. The first - yes, heavily, nerves.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Sincerely. The more conveniently life, the less significant problems seem terrifying against . To change a spirit, think about local  and to you it becomes easier. To them on an old age of years there will be a variant with another's children and another's problems. And it is the hardest quest about which you do not imply even. Or about the dissolved. Or, even more terribly, about families with children invalids. Appreciate that that is, the healthy child is the best variant of which many can dream only. The person shouts temporarily. More "" at you will not be.

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Hello, Grizzli, you wrote: G> by the way yes. When got used to comfort and to life such what suits you - difficult child to get - it is necessary to break same all. G> and the child is as army, it needs to be endured, such really it is better to transit by youth. The army on 1-3 orders is more difficult, do not mislead people. The wife correct and, the main thing, sensible and sharp is necessary, it is the major .

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Hello, Nuzhny, you wrote: N> With each new child parent feelings become stronger, it at many fathers noted. Well and more easy somehow you concern to , you do not shiver over the child. Subsequent go easier in this plan. The first - yes, heavily, nerves. And I and with the first especially was not nervous from shouts. I from neighbors started to be nervous, which were nervous from its cries. I write - at some instant militia even reached. And could and in guardianship a tax that checked up a family, "and that that it there at them shouts, at us that did not shout never".