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Topic: How you survived after appearance of the child?

Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. As it was right And some get at once that, and have not time to live. How you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? And that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. A month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. It can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). After feeding it needs to be held, that there was an eructation, to change pampers and . All occupies minutes 40 at the best. Yet always at once falls asleep, so remains less than 2 hours on a dream to the person on duty. Sometimes resolves more, but it is rare. And after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Simply it is necessary to give birth to 30.

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: S>> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? QC> simply it is necessary to give birth to 30. Without a difference. After changes 30 nothing that in 20 that in 35 - you feel equally (if not to thump and at least a little bit to be engaged . Activity). But to 30 you have a possibility to live if there are no children. If children are - that everything, your life already does not belong to you. Now understood it is how much important  which can be left the grandson (all the same old men sleep a little)...

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. As it was right And some get at once that, and have not time to live. That of foreheads is absolutely right. For life is short, and takes pleasure in life together so anybody and is not in time. And it  super - I to you will tell! S> as you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? At this stage as a rule muzhiks leave a family. S> and that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected.  any!!! I would run away for a long time already carelessly. The selected key. How so? You to water did not come in large numbers. Absence nearby relatives is normal and native it is peculiar . S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. You will soon die. S> it can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). After feeding it needs to be held, that there was an eructation, to change pampers and . All occupies minutes 40 at the best. Yet always at once falls asleep, so remains less than 2 hours on a dream to the person on duty. Sometimes resolves more, but it is rare. And after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth Faugh! S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Pretend to be to be as all. Anything joyful I do not see, for I hate children.

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> Simply it is necessary to give birth to 30. I.e. on itself it is necessary to spit ? And then, breed poverty, walk rags...

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Now understood it is how much important  which can be left the grandson (all the same old men sleep a little)... It is not a pity them? They with you , now also with your children?

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Hello, Dead Down, you wrote: > I.e. on itself it is necessary to spit ? > And then, breed poverty, walk rags... Yes children not a noise not the business. Sometimes children also draw out spoilage.

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> it is not a pity them? They with you , now also with your children? I do not know why, but very often noted, aged people somehow concern the such is easier...

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Hello, Qt-Coder, you wrote: QC> Yes children not a noise not the business. Sometimes children also draw out spoilage. Selected. There is nothing to add.

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S> Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. It is even better to live till a marriage of 5-7 years without the wife. S> as you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Slept together in one room. All norms, to quality of a dream I absolutely not exacting, do not suffer from a sleep debt. S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. S> it can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. Yes, at me so also a dummy completely ignored, was possible to calm and lay down to sleep only  long . S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Time while the child transits such small promptly and then recall it as happy and quiet time - the child always with you, under the supervision, any cares and problems except how to feed \wash \lay down is not present. And then the child grows up and the hardcore begins. So rejoice now. PS From my practice - strongly helped that the wife went to work (some hours per day) a month with 2 or 3. And every Sunday we left the son with my parents on half-day that gave the chance to us to go somewhere together and somehow to take rest.

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Hello, Dead Down, you wrote: QC>> it is not a pity them? They with you , now also with your children? > I do not know why, but very often noted, aged people somehow concern the such is easier... The Familiar grandfather spoke that he worries about grandsons much less, than in due time for the children

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: to grit teeth and to suffer. The first time sharply becomes easier more close by nine months - year. Then will be on a sine curve. To two and a half - to three years the strongest crises should transit. Children at all different, therefore it is not meaningful to give any specific councils. As, apparently, you correctly do all: you help the wife, you search for decisions. I can add only that with an intimate question it is better not to climb, while the wife herself does not offer, and "desire" to direct to creativity. It very well helps, if really love the business.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? It is all transits, it is necessary to undergo it is sensitive. Children grow awfully quickly. Soon a folder starts to name, on a knee you will throw, to laugh. Life will be adjusted!

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S> Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. As it was right And some get at once that, and have not time to live. Basically there are suitable circuits of leaving from the alimony

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: Not you the first, not you last. You will survive.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: the First months need to be endured, there's nothing to be done.) a situation can facilitate struggle against gripes (there individually it is necessary to understand to what in your case they can be connected), infantile massage (at us after the first session the senior overslept 13 hours on end, we already were frightened, but it is the expert is necessary, most so it it does not turn out), walks (if is possibility to allow to sleep to the child on a balcony - it is possible to sleep at this time, only the alarm clock needs to be put not to oversleep too long, even for walks the nurse can be employed, to sleep at this time). It is necessary to use actively a day dream slices for 20 minutes. About normal operation the first 2-3 months - can be forgotten, either holiday, or activity simulation. The main thing - to track, that the wife "did not break", differently absolutely the gloom begins.) it, probably, all that it was possible to recall useful on this subject.) good luck, it is fast these complexities end.)

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? I did not shout at night, slept normally. Well there were insignificant gripes any time, it was necessary to rock to sleep on hands. There is a version that mummies should think a head, instead of one place. My wife during feeding by a breast was on enough restricted diet, what sharp, fried, many products eliminated from a diet. Therefore children slept easily also a stomach did not suffer. And now you will listen to others, yes I guzzled all successively, smoked and thumped, and the child, the swine such, did not allow to sleep. Well still.

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S> Actually, one people to me advised to live after a marriage at least years 5-7 without children. As it was right And some get at once that, and have not time to live. And  then generally to marry or live together if not to get children? It is possible to meet simply. S> as you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Perfectly survived. Perfectly got enough sleep, the wife filled up in the afternoon. Slept together with the wife... Permanently... In this connection after the first appeared still 2 children. But I was young, the wife young. Forces the heap was.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? Simply at you any strange child. At me such was not - all quite normally slept. At night periodically sucked a boob and further slept. Well scold occasionally,  all - so it is not frequent.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. That is you spend residuals of forces not for operation and that everyone  and to "Politician" every day ,  result of what the head at you does not cook?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? Together. The wife should be supported. Feel sorry for itself less, it is more than aiming at the decision of specific problems. It is possible to solve very many. S> and that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. S> it can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). Is mandatory change a small bottle. The child is lazy, if accustom to a convenient small bottle which can be sucked without efforts, it and will row, receiving a boob which it is necessary . Perhaps therefore feeding also occupies from you for 40 minutes. Time at three o'clock it is normal, and it is completely not terrible. Only two times for a night to wake up, practically . At us the first months everyone hour-two woke up. If feeding is heavily given to the wife, invite the adviser for feeding. It helps to put the child to a breast so that it was comfortable to both. Probably, then the wife can feed in the sleep. S> and after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth And what walk? Dressed, in a carriage, and on a balcony to sleep. At this age babies sleep more than are awake. Its walks - your rest. On street the first months to drag sense is not present, especially in the winter. Procedures is that? Bathing? The same if normally accustom to a bathroom, buy to it a circle-collar later and it is possible to sit half an hour the book to read while the kid joyfully laps. S> me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? When it starts you to learn, smile, throw up pens - understand. And it will be very fast. And now simply understand that for your child almost all in life now for the first time. Generally all. And shout - a unique method - to show that to it is terrible, sick, , yes everything. It is not simple words, experience it. Help it. The principal help - to organize a mode. If adjust a mode, it will be easier to it to adapt to life, and big often problems leaves.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? At me at once  appeared. Children slept in the beds, we with the wife in the. There was a period, year in 3, apparently, when children permanently resorted in our bed and it was very inconvenient to sleep. Here with it it was necessary to struggle. During this period I still often woke up from horror that I now pressed down the child, and in the sleep the wife pushed, that it did not press down the child whom now in a bed that and is not present. S> And that I already about a month plainly do not sleep, since shout is audible through all doors. It is necessary to feed time at 3 o'clock approximately and each time it is accompanied by shout. Grandmothers nearby are not present. Earlier the wife herself tried consults, while blood from a nose did not go from a constant sleep debt, now I was connected. We long time itself with the wife consulted, without the aid of grandmothers who were in other cities. Fed by turns. Each 3 hours. Children were on artificial feeding. S> a month transited and even hardly more - and it becomes easier not. Forces it is necessary only on to attempt and  on sites. To work forces does not remain - the head does not cook, I walk in a state of the zombie. Not all men can sit with children long time. My wife left for some months far. Here I then took. At children still teeth only started to be cut. S> it can in an ideal and it is easier, but after all in life anything ideal does not happen. From a boob he not so likes to drink, prefers from a small bottle, a rack not to put efforts (read responses are not a rarity). After feeding it needs to be held, that there was an eructation, to change pampers and . All occupies minutes 40 at the best. Yet always at once falls asleep, so remains less than 2 hours on a dream to the person on duty. Sometimes resolves more, but it is rare. And after all also walk is necessary also procedures and so forth Like standard procedures. The child precisely one? Whence it is so much problems? I here noted, when the child one that with it are somehow lisped through . S> Me surprises as people still find forces to rejoice to a birth of children? At me, for example, the understanding not at once came that I became the father.

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S> Without a difference. After changes 30 nothing that in 20 that in 35 - you feel equally (if not to thump and at least a little bit to be engaged . Activity). In 20 sleepless night it is transferred much easier, than in 35.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: - Kohl's Greetings, not very well you look - That, the child does not allow to sleep? - I not Kohl I Lena, Kohl looks even worse

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> As you survived after a birth of the child? Slept with the wife in one room or you separately and it with the child separately? Whether It was possible to get enough sleep? The first a floor of year slept all together in one room since lived in , and the new apartment was at a repair stage Normally lived, in the afternoon the wife was engaged in them. In the evening and in the morning I helped it, to this rhythm quickly enough get used. And generally I noted that if the person on the present is tired, it falls and sleeps, and even the puncher working over an ear does not wake him. At us twins, and I do not understand moaning of at whom one child. There are certainly exceptional copies (as at one our acquaintances) which shout all day and night and practically do not sleep. But it is faster an exception (judging by those whom I know).