Hello, SvoboduAnzheleDevis, you wrote: F>> This branch is a branch from another where termination of release Lanosov in Ukraine was considered. There also it has been mentioned that earlier Autovaz too did tens and classics, but in the Russian Federation nevertheless decided to support car industry, and now Autovaz does Vestu, and other autoconcerns factories . And here after that the GARDEN also found urgently this roller to prove to all and first of all that Vesta - but and to support the car industry of any sense is not present, foreigners of type all the same make is better. The GARDEN> thanks. All so. The GARDEN> my main points was that in itself, autovases does the same shit, as well as .> something more less live they started to do the GARDEN after entrance in concern. Something live they made the first are a Guelder-rose and Priora. The GARDEN> but also here not without jambs. GARDEN> in places took the best, and in other places thrust archaic the aggregate which and could not with not less strange robot. Here to me personally , how much it archaic. At Kia as though too the heap of motors on the basis of one unit becomes, as however at all remaining. in a mode withstood 185. at normal driving on 180-220. At whom there the engine archaic? The expenditure below 6 liters on a route by the machine I saw, it is natural 90-110 without overtakings. That there not at Subarikov? As increase channels water so the engine begins at the chip-tjune. I not , and with a question, whether always new am better? At a basin the unit, it only on the factory sizes of pistons three times it is possible. There Is it already whole 40 with spare parts. Time in 200 (or more since 185 it withstood me, flying to turns with burning lamp of oil, that not dry) becomes. GARDEN> and that, all these transformations, happen last years 5. And under the influence of exterior influence. The GARDEN> and before let out vases 7 models, and... Anything cannot invent. Listen, at me to Priora of 2008, the nine 2001 was. To Jara . .