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Topic: [] the Great Russian civilization ended

It is a little , but till now it is actual. Considered already? Really all indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any ideology except "for all good" in words, and in practice tamping of the pockets. Understanding that all is finished, you grasp at a straw in the form of oil the Author: VladD2 Date: 12.12 20:19 avenue of a hogwash that from knees does not lift you. The first that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. About 13 minutes 6 : https://youtu.be/8pDkVABg_7M? t=786

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> it is a little , but till now it is actual. Considered already? You forgot about a gold toilet bowl and lacy shorts to mention

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. And to the fool it is not clear, what in two years on their place the new will sit?

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. Come at midnight to the bridge, I will give you an automatic pistol

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power at which is not present any <...> S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. The strange logic. In power , and it is necessary to destroy for some reason oligarchs. S> it and to the fool is clear. Probably I not the fool, therefore to me it am not clear. I thought that if in power  and it is necessary to destroy .

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S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. Than it differs from "for all good"? The oligarchs already destroyed? Showed as it is necessary to live? S> https://youtu.be/8pDkVABg_7M? t=786 did not look

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. There is no such class

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any ideology except "for all good" in words, and in practice tamping of the pockets. S> https://youtu.be/8pDkVABg_7M? t=786 As Poroshenko and To are connected to the link to video?)

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Us like (fie, fie) not especially burns, we wait can whose corpse on the river floats. It you there that that all , rage.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. To construct a society with a small role of oligarchs -  and completely not simple process including development of economy. A problem that any of popular politicians of measures in this direction does not offer.

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S> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. Well begins. Who should be destroyed after oligarchs?

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: S>> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any <...> S>> the First that it is necessary to make - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. Q> the strange logic. In power , and it is necessary to destroy for some reason oligarchs. And anything, what oligarchs are  literally this word? I.e. not all  - oligarchs, but all oligarchs - .

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Hello, milvic, you wrote: S>> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any ideology except "for all good" in words, and in practice tamping of the pockets. S>> https://youtu.be/8pDkVABg_7M? t=786 M> As Poroshenko and To are connected to the link to video?) video did not look, but unless Ukraine it not the oligarchic  under the American protectorate?

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Hello, TimurSPB, you wrote: S>> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. But is not present, you consider that oligarchy it normally, it is modern and even a little abruptly. TSP> well begins. Who should be destroyed after oligarchs? You purposefully ignored a prefix "as a class"?

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TSP>> Well begins. Who should be destroyed after oligarchs? N> you purposefully ignored a prefix "as a class"? No. And what it changes?

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Q> the Strange logic. In power , and it is necessary to destroy for some reason oligarchs. And there is a difference? Or you have examples of the grown rich oligarch lawfully? You can sound? Can ?

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S>> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. > there is no such class the power of oligarchs is, and the class is not present? It as?

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TSP> Well begins. Who should be destroyed after oligarchs? It strongly simplifies operation of appropriate structures of the power. You do not find? On-extreme measure it will be possible to shift from dead point. Give on fingers. To bang  , and its property to give to the state budget. To you it will be worse, better or it is violet?

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Hello, mjau, you wrote: S>> the First that needs to be made - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. It and to the fool is clear. M> and to the fool it is not clear, what in two years on their place the new will sit? So. To destroy oligarchs it is possible only simultaneously with change of a political system. You would like, that in the Russian Federation again there was something like a socialism (let "modern", but nevertheless?) as you consider, what then starts to happen in Ukraine?

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: S>> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any <...> S>> the First that it is necessary to make - to destroy as a class of all oligarchs. Q> the strange logic. In power , and it is necessary to destroy for some reason oligarchs. Anything strange, oligarchs - the most important thieves from 90.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: In capitalism oligarchs a system integral part, but a problem in other: the antimonopoly committee does not work, oligarchs keep for the power because are afraid to lose "the" property, laws are accepted under interests of oligarchs, courts defend interests of oligarchs, cops  oligarchs. To destroy oligarchs == to take away all and again to divide.

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Hello, Nik, you wrote: S>>> all is real indeed - toadies and  in power which do not have any ideology except "for all good" in words, and in practice tamping of the pockets. M>> as Poroshenko and To are connected to the link to video?) N> video did not look, but unless Ukraine it not the oligarchic  under the American protectorate? There the former general of KGB in the end of a roller produces a phrase that "the great Russian civilization ended", the dial-up of letters "toadies and  in power" like too met. Simply dude I so understand from Ukraine, and is exact not to it to stick with this enough disputable thought into Russians.

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Hello, vdimas, you wrote: V> so. To destroy oligarchs it is possible only simultaneously with change of a political system. V> you would like, that in the Russian Federation again there was something like a socialism (let "modern", but nevertheless?) The socialism is to take money from those who earns them, and to give to those who does not earn. And as soon as the stimulus disappears to work, that it is good to live - those who did not work and so do not become because what for to work if it is possible to do nothing, and those who worked - cease, because what for if all the same select. In the nature already all is invented for a long time - there is no best mechanism for development, than a healthy competition and natural selection.  - just an illustration of that happens when such mechanisms do not work. And at a socialism they will not work too that leads to result which we could watch the last hundred years. In a situation when 10 % live well, and 90 % - are bad, the socialism leads to that all start to live equally badly. The socialism cannot be constructed "violently", he can grow only itself at that stage of development when the society grows before both morally, and is material. Therefore as soon as 90 % of the population will live well - the society can come by a socialism. And in the Russian Federation the society cannot pass from feudalism by "market" capitalism yet. V> as you consider, what then starts to happen in Ukraine? Why you consider any question through a prism of Ukraine? In Ukraine the same problems, but them at least try to decide / to pretend that solve, and regular  in my opinion it is a little  a society and relieve of illusions "the valid tsar/boyar", despite possible economic consequences. Still pair  for impeachment of for whom stood on the previous Maidan, and it is probable to the majority reaches that the problem not in specific tsars above and more low, and in the general system allowing any person on a place of the tsar to have imperial possibilities and not to carry  them any responsibility. And in the Russian Federation it is accepted to pretend that all and so it is fine.

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Hello, Kaifa, you wrote: K> the power of oligarchs is, and the class is not present? It as? There is a class of capitalists

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K> it strongly simplifies operation of appropriate structures of the power. You do not find? On-extreme measure it will be possible to shift from dead point. Give on fingers. To bang  , and its property to give to the state budget. To you it will be worse, better or it is violet? And when  come to an end? It will be possible to undertake programmers? And they by buttons stick that and  money such receives!