26

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> And what there the impossible? Vertical fit already works like clock-work, a fuel tank made also the engine in process. T> the cargo ships could already and in 2020 to try to launch to Mars. T> but me the idea of intercontinental flights by means of the rocket on the Earth more is pleasant, here it really digging will be. And how many this pleasure will cost? In 1 trillion dollars of Mask it will be laid down?

27

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: L>> I Am afraid, the budget of the USA on it does not suffice. T> and what there the impossible? Mass of the Martian ship in an orbit estimate in 500-1000 tons. Load-carrying capacity of Falkona on LEO - 22800.

28

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

L> And how many this pleasure will cost? In 1 trillion dollars of Mask it will be laid down? How you counted trillion?

29

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: L>> And how many this pleasure will cost? In 1 trillion dollars of Mask it will be laid down? T> as you counted trillion? Yes it is simple  named. So in what total of Mask it will be laid down?

30

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

NANOSECONDS> in an orbit estimate Mass of the Martian ship in 500-1000 tons. Load-carrying capacity of Falkona on LEO - 22800. Will fill in an orbit, in what a problem?

31

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: NANOSECONDS>> in an orbit estimate Mass of the Martian ship in 500-1000 tons. Load-carrying capacity of Falkona on LEO - 22800. T> will Fill in an orbit, in what a problem? There it is far not only fuel.

32

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

L> Yes it is simple  named. So in what total of Mask it will be laid down? As regards the rocket at all of them is, therefore I am surprised that cargo flights to Mars are planned already on 2022, instead of 2020. The inhabited unit needs to be developed here again as that rather optimistical period in 2024 if they were not engaged in it is reserved from 2010.

33

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

NANOSECONDS>>> in an orbit estimate Mass of the Martian ship in 500-1000 tons. Load-carrying capacity of Falkona on LEO - 22800. T>> will Fill in an orbit, in what a problem? NANOSECOND> There it is far not only fuel. For this purpose it will have a rocket more than Saturn-5 which had a load-carrying capacity in ~150 tons. But now rockets is easier therefore I think finish to ~250 tons, remaining in an orbit finish loading and there will be 500 tons.

34

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: L>> Yes it is simple  named. So in what total of Mask it will be laid down? T> as regards the rocket at all of them is As regards the rocket meanwhile anything real is not present, because even at the Mask mind suffices not to declare that it is going to do it by current Falkonami As of October 2017, the key element of the infrastructure is the BFR, "Big Fucking Rocket" or "Big Falcon Rocket". T> if they were not engaged in it is reserved from 2010. We have such instruments.

35

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> For this purpose it will have a rocket more than Saturn-5 which had a load-carrying capacity in ~150 tons. Which is not present and it is not known when will be. T> but now rockets is easier therefore I think finish to ~250 tons, remaining in an orbit finish loading and there will be 500 tons. And Tadjiks will collect?

36

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

T>> For this purpose it will have a rocket more than Saturn-5 which had a load-carrying capacity in ~150 tons. The NANOSECOND> Which is not present and it is not known when will be. Operating time and experience it has enough to make such rocket. T>> but now rockets is easier therefore I think finish to ~250 tons, remaining in an orbit finish loading and there will be 500 tons. The NANOSECOND> And will be collected by Tadjiks? Most likely 250 tons it also will be fuel so anything it is not necessary to collect.

37

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

The NANOSECOND> As regards the rocket meanwhile real is not present anything, because even at the Mask mind suffices not to declare, what it is going to do it by current Falkonami That is  it taught nothing also all it is necessary to do from a blank leaf? I think that anything essentially new in comparison with  there will not be, the sizes of the rocket only to correct and to the physicist to enumerate and all.

38

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> As regards the rocket at all of them is, therefore I am surprised that cargo flights to Mars are planned already on 2022, instead of 2020. T> the Inhabited unit needs to be developed here again as that rather optimistical period in 2024 if they were not engaged in it is reserved from 2010. I correctly understood, what specific digits at flight cost will not be?

39

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Strong-willed and not absolutely indisputable decision it only idea to take advantage almost completely copied -1, but also here the reason was - the industry mastered a new class of products, details, raw materials. It is normal practice. B>> but politically it appeared harmfully. P> yes all was  while it became not well-known, and  we dig in the past with words "politically harmfully" Simply tore not half-live. Any talk about rockets is reduced by them to "tore off at Germans!" A certain variant . B>> Developed the, it is better German. P> yes, but also the separate elements tested and at that point in time justified did not refuse. It is bad? It speaks about backwardness of the USSR? B>> so it not one ran away, and with a command. P> it took out with a command, whether but she developed Saturn-5 Took part at least. And their pupils also. B>> By the way: Americans developed the alternative project. And only when it completely failed, gave to Brown  to green light. P> it about start of the first companion likely. Yes. B>> Tsialkovky, Queens, "Katyusha" - not! Did not hear! P> Tsiolkovsky it is faster the theorist-dreamer in good sense and the ideologist of outer space exploration. Offered the rocket as the main means of transportation. P> Queens in ballistic missiles to Fau-2 was not engaged, but certainly it at that point in time was the engineer and the designer in reactive area skilled and without knowledge, experience and its talents, Glushko and others to create in the USSR rocket production and astronautics so quickly it would not turn out Rockets the Queen from the very beginning were ballistic for control facilities them were not. Simply all its first rockets were much less . P> "Katyusha" it is a little from other area, it the general principle of driving connects to ballistic missiles only. The katyusha used  the engine. Has been uncontrollable and flied on a ballistic path. Vanyusha strongly conceded German analog to it.

40

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

L> I correctly understood, what specific digits at flight cost will not be? Money the Mask suffices. No trillion is necessary.

41

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, Nik, you wrote: N> It certainly is remarkable, but after all they and did not master rocket creation. Who such "they"? Who such "Americans", in your judgement? N> Flight on the Moon at all their dream was, they at us and Germans filched it. The backward nation, even are not able to dream.

42

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> the Mask suffices Money. No trillion is necessary. As they say... - not bags to move. P.S. You do not think that, it I about the Mask.

43

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, Socrat, you wrote: N>> and at them - the Background Brown. S> directly at the machine tool stood? When  justify Stalin, they speak: unless it personally shot? When  justify Putin speak: unless it personally destroyed the industry? And here, a new pearl: , a background Brown does not concern the American space program because behind the machine tool did not stand. This achievement of American mechanic John, without it any flight on the Moon would not be.

44

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> And bases, theoretical and practical, rocket production Germans put, and them used both the USSR and the USA. Tsiolkovsky

45

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, Socrat, you wrote: B>> Tsialkovky, Queens, "Katyusha" - not! Did not hear! S> you to begin with compare the reactive engine of the Katyusha and Fau. Well, engine Fau and -7 too can be compared. There too anything similar is not present. Even fuel another.

46

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> Well, engine Fau and -7 too can be compared. A> there too anything similar is not present. Are very similar. There are cameras  functionally similar, but not such form, a nozzle of very similar form.  working on similar, and for Fau-2 and -7 by very similar principle. Atomizers. And even sensors on pressure and turns similar stand. And here in a shell of the Katyusha anything similar is not present. A> Even fuel another. And fuel another.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

47

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> When  justify Stalin, they speak: unless it personally shot? Q> when  justify Putin speak: unless it personally destroyed the industry? When qwertyuiop , any arguments it is absolutely not necessary for it.

48

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, biochemist, you wrote: B> Rockets the Queen from the very beginning were ballistic for control facilities them were not. Simply all its first rockets were much less . Ballistic missiles have control facilities. Or can be, and in practice at everything, except rockets RSZO happen, but rockets RSZO normally ballistic and do not name, though fly on ballistic  certainly the most part. Rockets the Queen were with wings. There was any involvement in the toy GIRDOVSKY rockets first as a matter of fact, but it ended in the beginning 30. B> the Katyusha used  the engine. Has been uncontrollable and flied on a ballistic path. Undoubtedly. B> Vanyusha strongly conceded German analog to it. The German analog too was quite good,  not on set of characteristics therefore and  in smaller scales, but it is pure under rocket characteristics is quite good.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

49

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, Ops, you wrote: Q>> When  justify Stalin, they speak: unless it personally shot? Q>> when  justify Putin speak: unless it personally destroyed the industry? Ops> when qwertyuiop , any arguments it is absolutely not necessary for it. You, apparently, wanted to tell something? What to you prevented? The message wrote, and to enclose in it any sense forgot.

50

Re: The space screwdriver assembly

Hello, Socrat, you wrote: N>> and at them - the Background Brown. S> directly at the machine tool stood? I told - the screwdriver assembly