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Topic: Husbands, fathers, grandfathers ...

Alexey Zhivov - Husbands, fathers, grandfathers ... Archive: No December, 12th 2017 In Moscow suburbs actor Dmitry Marjanov suddenly died. In this tragical news that to it was only 47 years is remarkable. For a week before at the age of 49 years the director of football club "Zenith" Kostja Sarsanija died. All these tragedies and thousand more others happen to Russian men long before pension age. The country selects millions dollars for rescue of banks. When we start to select money for rescue of the Russian man? I will not hide, I have also a personal implied sense. My father died in 53 years. The grandfather did not live to 40. Among my friends and acquaintances at similar age not so it is a lot of lucky persons, whose fathers embraced the grandsons. The neighbor in the house one year ago departed to Supreme at the age of 48 years. To the death looked healthy. It is our national catastrophe. If I could be selected in public authorities of the subject or federal meeting, I and my colleagues the first that would make: Provided rescue of the Russian man (Russian - in wide understanding, it it is natural) from early death and would achieve change of a financial position of a family with children in the Russian state, which, frankly speaking, absolutely thin. But as to me as to the Russian patriot, in a big-times politics the input is closed, it is necessary to question silence: how long? To what pores to the person in Russia, to its health, his life will concern, how to the insignificant fact? To a change on a way of someone's financial and political ambitions? Till 65 years lives no more than 40 % of Russian men. And it is much worse, than even in the USSR. In streets it is almost impossible to meet aged men. They are not present. In a reality till 60 years does not live about 50 % of Russian men. A cancer, strokes, heart attacks, heart diseases, diseases of digestive organs, technogenic catastrophes. It is necessary to accept immediately the whole series of measures for lowering of level of man's death rate. And not at level of correction statisticans Rosstata as do it recently, and really. A situation sad: on changeover dying with a speed of mammoths to men of 40-50 years anybody does not come. In 1999 was born 300 thousand Russian young men, in 2000 - also 300 thousand. In 2001 - the same digit. Now the tragedy can be not obvious, but wait for 10-20 years... Loss of the adult man at the age of 45-55 years is not only personal or national tragedy. These are serious problems for economy. To pension alcoholics, addicts or other degenerates as it is considered to be live. To pension people talented and hardworking do not live. Men at the age of 40 + only start to uncover the social and economic potential. At this age their contribution to a demography, economy, the intellectual environment of the state considerably increases. At this age of the man start to implement all potential which in our case leaves on a cemetery. The economy loses huge money because of drop-out of tax bearers. Losses of some people are critical for a science as are irreplaceable. It for someone can appear revelation, but Russia can be at once and is entirely discarded years on twenty in scientific development of that any man in the worn out boots and shabby from time and poverty a suit gave the ends somewhere in Novosibirsk or Obninsk. Because this man was the leading expert / the only thing in any branch and without that an in agony Russian science. I think, if someone ventures to conduct deep economic research of influence of early man's death on a national economy in Russia, results will be absolutely depressing. Except economy, is also social sphere. Russia - the country of lonely women. Russia - the country of children who have been brought up without fathers. In Russia there is more than half of grandsons never saw the grandfathers. Even not broad-browed hedgehog knows, what huge moral and vital example is given to the child by the grandfather. And where these grandfathers? I should lead the daughter on a cemetery to show it the grandfather. The interrupted transmission of knowledge and morals from generation to generation  also is hiccupped to our people continually. Alexey Alekseevich  http://www.russdom.ru/taxonomy/term/145 (Fat color it is selected by me - RussianFellow).

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> RF> Loss of the adult man at the age of 45-55 years is not only personal or national tragedy. These are serious problems for economy. To pension alcoholics, addicts or other degenerates as it is considered to be live. To pension people talented and hardworking do not live. Men at the age of 40 + only start to uncover the social and economic potential. At this age their contribution to a demography, economy, the intellectual environment of the state considerably increases. At this age of the man start to implement all potential which in our case leaves on a cemetery. RF> http://www.russdom.ru/taxonomy/term/145 so it is necessary what to do? To me just "40 +" To be wrapped in a bed-sheet and to creep on a cemetery? Or once a year to raise real estate from a chair and to crawl to polyclinic, to transit checkup physical examination?

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> To pension alcoholics, addicts or other degenerates as it is considered to be live. To pension people talented and hardworking do not live. And addicts and alcoholics are vigorous and active to extreme old age? It that, fragments from school compositions?

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The Author wrote about it here: turbocode Date: 23.08 15:03

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> To pension people talented and hardworking do not live. You hint what long to live, it is necessary to be the degenerate? Your questions on become clear how not to work - to live simply long want

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A_R> you Hint what long to live, it is necessary to be the degenerate? A_R> your questions on Become clear how not to work - to live simply long want Write that in Germany heavily to die even the seriously ill patient 80 + to summer old men, they already and are glad to die but quality and availability of the German medicine it does not give.

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> Write that in Germany heavily to die even the seriously ill patient 80 + to summer old men, they already and are glad to die but quality and availability of the German medicine it does not give. You did not understand, here  absolutely innovative solution of a problem of longevity, without expensive preparations and generally medicine.  the alcoholic/addict/deneneratom and, , - newly made Dunkan Maklaud!

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T>> Write that in Germany heavily to die even the seriously ill patient 80 + to summer old men, they already and are glad to die but quality and availability of the German medicine it does not give. R> you did not understand, here  absolutely innovative solution of a problem of longevity, without expensive preparations and generally medicine.  the alcoholic/addict/deneneratom and, , - newly made Dunkan Maklaud! Alcoholics quite to 60 live, if do not freeze in the street earlier. Addicts it is more from a redose and  . Degenerates in the power of the Russian Federation - these yes live.

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> Men at the age of 40 + only start to uncover the social and economic potential. At this age their contribution to a demography, economy, the intellectual environment of the state considerably increases. At this age of the man start to implement all potential which in our case leaves on a cemetery. So, me it is fast 40. How to me considerably to increase the contribution to a demography? Where to address?

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> For a week before at the age of 49 years the director of football club "Zenith" Kostja Sarsanija died. All these tragedies and thousand more others happen to Russian men long before pension age. With Russian? RF> the country selects millions dollars for rescue of banks. When we start to select money for rescue of the Russian man? And how was specific the country should to use money for rescue of the Russian man?

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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> Write that in Germany heavily to die even the seriously ill patient 80 + to summer old men, they already and are glad to die but quality and availability of the German medicine it does not give. In shops forbade ropes and soap?

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: RF>> For a week before at the age of 49 years the director of football club "Zenith" Kostja Sarsanija died. All these tragedies and thousand more others happen to Russian men long before pension age. Pzz> with Russian? The skull form not that?

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF> Till 65 years lives no more than 40 % of Russian men. And it is much worse, than even in the USSR. Well to show a source of convergence. And it is strange to compare the USSR, instead of RSFSR to the Russian Federation And I do not believe that such statistics on Russian men generally exists

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: Pzz> And how was specific the country should to use money for rescue of the Russian man? Probably, for physical examinations to pay. Allowed itself to examine to the doctor - obtain compensation.

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Hello, rg45, you wrote: RF>> To pension alcoholics, addicts or other degenerates as it is considered to be live. To pension people talented and hardworking do not live. R> and addicts and alcoholics are vigorous and active to extreme old age? It that, fragments from school compositions? You do not check. There is a familiar drunk when I it last time saw - to it was 85. But walked without a stick, . And all know it as "the drunk still that". Rarely happens , but gets drunk not to . We were to be trusted that good people live long, and any spawn - drunks, addicts - die quickly. But the reality, unfortunately, is not that.

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: Pzz>> With Russian? NANOSECOND> the skull Form not that? A surname not that.

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Pzz>>> With Russian? NANOSECOND>> the skull Form not that? Pzz> a surname not that. Even it became interesting. And I - Russian, your way?

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S> So, me it is fast 40. How to me considerably to increase the contribution to a demography? Where to address? In spa-salon, a hairdressing salon and a boutique. In this sequence.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: S> Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF>> Till 65 years lives no more than 40 % of Russian men. And it is much worse, than even in the USSR. S> well to show a source of convergence. And it is strange to compare to the Russian Federation the USSR, instead of RSFSR On me, the difference between the USSR and RSFSR is not great. It is possible to consider their same. S> and I do not believe that such statistics on Russian men generally exists But it can be led - as for the Soviet period (we tell, since 1965), and during the Post-Soviet period (that is after 1991). P.S. At my were fellow workers (which itself about 1938 year of birth, she retired) the son at the age of 52 years one of these days died.

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But generally in article meant "Russian" in the broad sense of the word - not only ethnically Russian men, but also  Russia all nationalities.

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Hello, RussianFellow, you wrote: RF>>> Till 65 years lives no more than 40 % of Russian men. And it is much worse, than even in the USSR. S>> well to show a source of convergence. And it is strange to compare to the Russian Federation the USSR, instead of RSFSR RF> On me, the difference between the USSR and RSFSR is not great. It is possible to consider their same. Even on regions Russian Federations the difference is huge. S>> and I do not believe that such statistics on Russian men generally exists RF> But it can be led - as for the Soviet period (we tell, since 1965), and during the Post-Soviet period (that is after 1991). So result! But on Russian there are no statisticans RF> P.S. At my were fellow workers (which itself about 1938 year of birth, she retired) the son at the age of 52 years one of these days died. If at the woman one child and it is a son, 70 % that she worries it

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RF> But as to me as to the Russian patriot, in a big-times politics the input is closed, it is necessary to question silence: how long? Well here at you in 90 input in a policy has been opened. But you it is reverse in 90 do not want.  with Russian men, greet with Central Asian. Thanks them, with  all will be good (without an irony shade), and is more to you than anything and it is not necessary

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Hello, Pzz, you wrote: NANOSECOND>> the skull Form not that? Pzz> a surname not that. The surname you will not prompt? And that we here communicate with you, and suddenly at you a surname not that system.

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Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> you do not check. There is a familiar drunk when I it last time saw - to it was 85. But walked without a stick, . And all know it as "the drunk still that". Rarely happens , but gets drunk not to . S> We were to be trusted that good people live long, and any spawn - drunks, addicts - die quickly. But the reality, unfortunately, is not that. So in what then the rescue program? All good people to accustom to drinking and plant on a needle?

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Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: NANOSECOND> The surname you will not prompt? And that we here communicate with you, and suddenly at you a surname not that system. And you in my profile glance, and you learn. I not from what are afraid real  to be presented.