#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> is not present all the same. The rate of return does not change. One more attempt, can in a mathematical language will understand, though Rate of return = Profit/means enclosed in manufacture or Rate of return = Profit / the Advanced capital if these words so are pleasant to you Or on another as considered NANOSECOND already tried, but to us now without  Rate of return = the Profit/gain Us interests Profit, and it Profit = the Gain - Raw materials - _ - Amortization - Taxes - ProtsentyPoKreditam -  Can is finite to name profit or rate of return everything that it is necessary for your soul, but then it is necessary will be restricted to conversation with itself... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, pagid, you wrote: P> Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH>> is not present all the same. The rate of return does not change. P> rate of return = Profit / the Advanced capital, \*100 % P> Rate of return = Profit/gain the profit \gain is a heresy any. P> us the Profit, and it P> Profit = the Gain - Raw materials - _ - Amortization - Taxes - ProtsentyPoKreditam -  EBI (earnings before interest) - net profit before payment (residue) of percent interests

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> \*100 % At you such division sign is accepted? DH> the profit \gain is a heresy any. It is a practical method, unlike political economic and figs in practice computable "Advanced the capital" DH> DH> EBI (earnings before interest) - net profit before payment (residue) of percent This your personal invention to use for calculation of rate of return "Profit on sales" (EBI). It is not necessary to deceive the owner of business, taxes, percentage payments too to it to pay.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, pagid, you wrote: DH>> \*100 % P> At you such division sign is accepted?  to push laziness DH>> the profit \gain is a heresy any. P> it is a practical method, unlike political economic and figs in practice computable "Advanced the capital" therefore also Russia in an ass. Bought a flour for rouble. Sold bread for 1.50. Profit of 50 %!!! And then furnaces burned down, and it appeared that their for brackets took out that of the equation and to buy new there is nothing... DH>> DH>> EBI (earnings before interest) - net profit before payment (residue) of percent P> This your personal invention , not mine. Try another ..

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> therefore also Russia in an ass. Aha, because at us it is accepted  taxes at calculation of efficiency of business. DH> bought a flour for rouble. Sold bread for 1.50. Profit of 50 %!!! And then furnaces burned down, and it appeared that their for brackets took out that of the equation and to buy new there is nothing... It you forgot that taxes and percentage payments too need to be considered, and not that that for new furnaces is necessary, but also taxes with loan percent should be paid from the pocket. And the correct formula all necessary was. DH> , not mine. Try another .. With interest I will look who and for what purpose considers rate of return similarly.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: you again with foam at a mouth argue on a subject in which  you do not understand

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, koandrew, you wrote: K> Well if to discard a policy, quite logical action for inflation restriction. And destructions of credits

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, pagid, you wrote: DH>> therefore also Russia in an ass. P> aha because at us it is accepted  taxes at calculation of efficiency of business. The tax undertakes from profit, SUDDENLY. And if the profit is not present - there are no also taxes. Rate of return of 5 % - the credit of 7 % => it is not necessary to begin business also. DH>> bought a flour for rouble. Sold bread for 1.50. Profit of 50 %!!! And then furnaces burned down, and it appeared that their for brackets took out that of the equation and to buy new there is nothing... P> It you forgot that taxes and percentage payments too need to be considered, and not that that for new furnaces is necessary, but also taxes with loan percent should be paid from the pocket. And the correct formula all necessary was. Yes is not present. What for them to consider? Simply we put outside the brackets. To unfortunate businessmen so is easier. Because and economy in Russia the such. Gazprom takes the credit not from Gazprombank, and anywhere abroad. Mysticism. DH>> , not mine. Try another .. P> With interest I will look who and for what purpose considers rate of return similarly. Competent economists. Judging by foreign letters in the term - they foreign. Probably from the USA. That there and economy over the Russian. There and banks are, those which develop manufacture, instead of usurers.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > you again with foam at a mouth argue on a subject in which  do not understand I that just I understand... And here you - next . And you so generally. Instead of counterarguments - decided to throw simply stupidly a shit  - you the fool! Draining is included.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: > and destructions of credits inflation Acceleration also promotes rise in price of credits, so it still a question what of approaches is better.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> the tax undertakes from profit, SUDDENLY. And if the profit is not present - there are no also taxes. If there is no profit there is no profit tax if is, that is and the tax. Logically oh, damn. Look how many Gazprom paid the profit tax. It not including other taxes, they too in the formula in the same place. DH> rate of return of 5 % - the credit of 7 % => it is not necessary to begin business also. Again . DH> yes is not present. What for them to consider? Simply we put outside the brackets. To unfortunate businessmen so is easier. Because and economy in Russia the such. You put outside the brackets, and unfortunate businessmen in Russia DH> competent economists. Judging by foreign letters in the term - they foreign. Probably from the USA. That there and economy over the Russian. There and banks are, those which develop manufacture, instead of usurers. That is who else  as to you  we and do not learn rate of return. And  there a lot of different happens, from this, that  such exist not  what exactly these  are used at calculation of rate of return. And in Russian these   "profit on sales"... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, koandrew, you wrote: K> Well if to discard a policy, quite logical action for inflation restriction. Oh, not the fact, same Ukraine, there such action can result and in inflation magnification: Considering the current nature of inflation, discount rate increase on the contrary can cause the further acceleration of inflation. Here.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, pagid, you wrote: DH>> the tax undertakes from profit, SUDDENLY. And if the profit is not present - there are no also taxes. P> if there is no profit there is no profit tax if is, that is and the tax. Logically oh, damn. Look how many Gazprom paid the profit tax. It not including other taxes, they too in the formula in the same place.  it is not financed Gazprombank - all logically DH>> rate of return of 5 % - the credit of 7 % => it is not necessary to begin business also. P> again . . To give more than you receive? To mine this bankruptcy, not? DH>> yes is not present. What for them to consider? Simply we put outside the brackets. To unfortunate businessmen so is easier. Because and economy in Russia the such. P> you put outside the brackets, and unfortunate businessmen in Russia here they and carry out. Together with you. You a sample of business thought of Russia. DH>> competent economists. Judging by foreign letters in the term - they foreign. Probably from the USA. That there and economy over the Russian. There and banks are, those which develop manufacture, instead of usurers. P> that is who else  as to you  we and do not learn rate of return. John Smith - the economist of the Boeing. ?

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: Vi2>> For a year. And what it for an error? DH> well . 10 % from 6 trillion turned out 700 billion, at all I do not know where also an error. And 11 from 6.63? 729 it turns out, not?

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: Vi2>>> For a year. And what it for an error? DH>> well . 10 % from 6 trillion turned out 700 billion, at all I do not know where also an error. NANOSECOND> And 11 from 6.63? 729 it turns out, not? And should 726 6.63 , the operational profit of 726 billion Turns out 11 %. Well.  - you approximated. All the same the turn is not advanced capital.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> I just understand that... And here you - next . Well, you one among us such '

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, Los Chtostrjaslos, you wrote: DH>> I just understand that... And here you - next . > well, you among us such ' some  and wrote one 10 years ago. The errors were then learned and realized. Too it waits for you... Years through 10

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> DH> 6.63 , the operational profit of 726 billion Turns out 11 %. DH> well.  - you approximated. Apologies will be? DH> all the same the turn is not advanced capital. And how many this capital at Gazprom?

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, Night Looking, you wrote: DH>> DH>> 6.63 , the operational profit of 726 billion Turns out 11 %. DH>> well.  - you approximated. NANOSECONDS> Apologies will be? Excuse, I a passing did not make out your rounding off, and assumed an error. DH>> all the same the turn is not advanced capital. NANOSECOND> And how many this capital at Gazprom? Own capital 11 441 839 000 000

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

> the National bank of Ukraine raised discount rate from 13,5 % to 14,5 % annual. I still would mark that this second increase of the rate for a half-year. In October  already raised the rate with 12,5 to 13,5. But inflation is by the end of the year accelerated. And Ohrimenko as the reasons names, in particular, growth of minimum salaries that vendors put in the prices (including agricultural vendors in the prices of this crop). By the way, in its judgement inflation still can continue growth since there is a postponed growth on meat (grew up the prices of this crop - forages grew up - the meat and bird price grows) Well and oil/gas growth. It, of course, leads to a rise in prices and demand for production of the Ukrainian exporters ( production and metal), but also disperses inflation. Though salaries, like, too began to grow. One of the reasons - population outflow - hands less also it is necessary to lift salaries to retain workers. P.S. Dzhangirova had recently Eric Nyman. He came up with quite to itself(himself) liberal idea that at Ukraine only 2 directions will earn money - . Production and IT. Truth it means that in Ukraine remains the order of 25 million population.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: D>> What exactly does not fly up and how it is connected to "rate of return" ? DH> Banks should develop manufacture. If the rate> rates of return - that of any development is not foreseen. All is correct, only at what here ? Or you do not know other manufactures? Just at  the norm arrived much more, therefore it and works. And here in manufacture of chips it really low, therefore to wait appearance of new hi-tech manufactures it is not necessary. If inflation even by their calculations of 2.5 % what hinders to install the rate at least 3 %?

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: D>>> What exactly does not fly up and how it is connected to "rate of return" ? DH>> Banks should develop manufacture. If the rate> rates of return - that of any development is not foreseen. Q> All is correct, only at what here ? On someone I need to result examples? Q> or you do not know other manufactures? Just at  the norm arrived much more, therefore it and works. And here in manufacture of chips it really low, therefore to wait appearance of new hi-tech manufactures it is not necessary. On good it is necessary to take average - but  to consider long, or it is necessary to google... Q> If inflation even by their calculations of 2.5 % what hinders to install the rate at least 3 %? And what for they buy debentures  for petrodollars that then at states and to occupy on credit but already under higher percent? A fast output: yes same enemies of the people who bought for a jam butt!

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> a fast output: DH> yes same enemies of the people who bought for a jam butt! Therefore also banks destroy.

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH>  it is not financed Gazprombank - all logically is not financed, but, most likely, for other reason. Gazprom  one of shareholders of Gazprombank. If the proprietor actively starts to be financed in the bank the Central Bank have to bank questions, and the bank has problems: crediting of proprietors, the poor-quality capital and superfluous  loading became the Reasons of sanitation of one of the largest private players in the Russian banking market, declared in Bank of Russia. More in detail on RBC

#### Re: The Central Bank reduced the key rate to 7.75 %

Hello, cserg, you wrote: DH>>  it is not financed Gazprombank - Cs all logically> the Reasons of sanitation of one of the largest private players in the Russian banking market became crediting of proprietors, Horror!  they soon guess to forbid me to invest I wash profit in own manufacture.