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It in a policy, in a policy. Was mistaken They spoke about absolutely small, BUT (!) Predicted growth, sometimes carefully naming economy growth - GROWTH ELEMENTS. That that they worked by the sweat of the brow and it it was very heavy it became clear at once and irrevocably. Things are easy - what society it .... Behind it actually also came. The people, naturally, checked (and where it would get to also who it asked) that MONEY  ON  And IT WILL be independent there is nothing. But here with development, in normal understanding, naturally, it is necessary to wait a little. As usual... However. Bridges, roads, and a tile in Moscow in development ... Remaining as the grandmother on two tells... On the other hand at every turn all . Liberal, (a literary word).... The brotherhood offers credits in unlimited ... Though  the next hundred years. And if only ... (A literary word), but also the semistate banks of type of Sbera and  are ready to make happy you with ANY TOTALS... On ANY your whims. And money at them... Type is... And it is a lot of type Society it though also stupid (in judgement )... But not the silly. And the society starts to argue logically... Why on credit (me personally) money is..... And it is a lot of. And on development, projects in Russia (where I without loan percent would find to myself worthy operation) WELL IN ANY WAY it is impossible To THEM. The society from such discovery runs in , but continues  logical judgement and starts to sort out variants... That comes to the First mind it is a legendary phrase of character Arcady Raikin - "CHILDREN WELL And  SEWED THIS SUIT?" As I personally an element of society of Russia. I the same ask myself this question; and... I do not understand, why economy development should go through loan percent? Moreover and banks - agents western . Also arises at me proof  that the STUPID... Not I, but am certain that who tries  this suit. But while, judging by this article, tailors try to study the next time (!!!) The concept of my logic also it is visible again for budget money That is on society money... https://aurora.network/forum/topic/5604 … na#c-99923

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S> "S> They spoke about absolutely small, BUT (!) Predicted growth, sometimes carefully naming economy growth - GROWTH ELEMENTS. S> that that they worked by the sweat of the brow and it it was very heavy it became clear at once and irrevocably. S> things are easy - what society it . S>... Behind it actually also came. S> the people, naturally, checked (and where it would get to also who it asked) that MONEY  ON  And IT WILL be independent there is nothing. S> But here with development, in normal understanding, naturally, it is necessary to wait a little. As usual... However. S> Bridges, roads, and a tile in Moscow in development ... Remaining as the grandmother on two tells... S> On the other hand at every turn all . Liberal,  (a literary word).... The brotherhood offers credits in unlimited ... Though  the next hundred years. S> and if only . .  (a literary word), but also the semistate banks of type of Sbera and  are ready to make happy you with ANY TOTALS... On ANY your whims. S> and money at them... Type is... And it is a lot of type S> Society it though also stupid (in judgement )... But not the silly. S> and the society starts to argue logically... S> Why on credit (me personally) money is..... And it is a lot of. S> And on development, projects in Russia (where I without loan percent would find to myself worthy operation) WELL IN ANY WAY it is impossible To THEM. S> the Society from such discovery runs in , but continues  logical judgement and starts to sort out variants... S> that comes to the First mind it is a legendary phrase of character Arcady Raikin - "CHILDREN WELL And  SEWED THIS SUIT?" S> As I personally an element of society of Russia. I the same ask myself this question; and... I do not understand, why economy development should go through loan percent? S> moreover and banks - agents western . S> Also arises at me proof  that the STUPID... Not I, but am certain that who tries  this suit. But while, judging by this article, tailors try to study the next time (!!!) the concept of my logic also it is visible again for budget money S> That is on society money... S> "S> https://aurora.network/forum/topic/5604 … na#c-99923 I Envy, as you can such read. Probably, the master a zen?

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Hello, TMU_1, you wrote: TMU> I Envy, as you can such read. Probably, the master a zen? People without hatred I concern, with informative interest

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Hello, sharpman, you wrote: I understood nothing, what it for a consciousness flow? S> as I personally an element of society of Russia. I the same ask myself this question; and... I do not understand, why economy development should go through loan percent? Well why should? If you have billion, can develop economy on the money, nobody forbids. And, or you want that the credit was interest-free? It can still should be free?

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: Q> And, or you want that the credit was interest-free? It can still should be free? And there is still such concept as the negative interest rate, so the free (zero) credit it not a limit. It is spread enough  the credit, that is literally the tenth shares of percent. But in Russia with credits the full... A pas, and... A pas diligently justified by many citizens, after all it, native, and the best life they also did not see. And for help the credit whence undertakes. Money under it is created by Central Bank of the country from anything. As a matter of fact only on maintenance of monetary system in an actual state, but it all the same it is necessary to do expenses, you create money under credits or not.

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Hello, qwertyuiop, you wrote: S>> why economy development should go through loan percent? Q> well why should? If you have billion, can develop economy on the money, nobody forbids. Open for itself joint-stock companies!

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> the Credit to manufacture should be produced who it to you ran into debt?

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Hello, velkin, you wrote: V> And for help whence undertakes the credit. Money under it is created by Central Bank of the country from anything. Generally, there are own means of bank and there is money of investors

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> the Credit to manufacture should be produced under average rate of return, banks are engaged in it. What banks are engaged in it?

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: DH>> the Credit to manufacture should be produced under average rate of return, banks are engaged in it. 0> what banks are engaged in it? Not what, but banks. In the countries where there are banks, for example in the USA.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: DH>> the Credit to manufacture should be produced S> who it to you ran into debt? Not to me, but. To give money to manufacture under average rate of return much more favourably than to give money in growth under 300 %

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> not what, but banks. In the countries where there are banks, for example in the USA. Also what, in the USA banks give under "average rate of return", instead of by any other principles assign the rate?

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: DH>> not what, but banks. In the countries where there are banks, for example in the USA. 0> also what, in the USA banks give under "average rate of return", instead of by any other principles assign the rate? Certainly. Otherwise in the USA there would be no manufacture. Well as the factory can take the credit if at it the profit is less than percent? This bankruptcy. A counter in that. That you at first gave to a snack bar on development one million. And then the McDonald's enclosed to you on the deposit billion. And you occupied this billion to the Boeing. That he grew even more and stored at you 10. The manufacture - the richer bank becomes fatter. So,  it is necessary to give such that manufacture easily beat off it. Instead of 300 %

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: 0>> Also what, in the USA banks give under "average rate of return", instead of by any other principles assign the rate? DH> it is finite. Otherwise in the USA there would be no manufacture. Well as the factory can take the credit if at it the profit is less than percent? This bankruptcy. DH> a counter in that. That you at first gave to a snack bar on development one million. And then the McDonald's enclosed to you on the deposit billion. And you occupied this billion to the Boeing. That he grew even more and stored at you 10. DH> the manufacture - the richer bank becomes fatter. So,  it is necessary to give such that manufacture easily beat off it. Instead of 300 %

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: 0> Image: tf2_achievement___facepalm_by_mrshrike.jpg it is too difficult for you? Therefore Russia and in an ass.

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> it is too difficult for you? Therefore Russia and in an ass. Forgive, I not their those three percent

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: DH>> it is too difficult for you? Therefore Russia and in an ass. 0> forgive, I not their those three percent  and am bad. And Gref too not from those. And as a result for it it is more obvious to give to the population money in a mortgage under bestial percent, than Dry on manufacture development under average rate of return. As a result - sickly manufacture stimulated to occupy  650 dollars. Because own banks, banks are not.

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Hello, siberia2, you wrote: V>> And for help whence undertakes the credit. Money under it is created by Central Bank of the country from anything. S> Generally, there are own means of bank and there is money of investors And still there is a banking animator, only here something banks of Russia do not hurry up to produce credits below the key rate.

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S> Bridges, roads, and a tile in Moscow in development ... Remaining as the grandmother on two tells... S> And on development, projects in Russia (where I without loan percent would find to myself worthy operation) WELL IN ANY WAY it is impossible To THEM. 1. Funny when the judgements are produced for society reasonings. 2. How much there are no projects? For example, in Novosibirsk found money for the fourth bridge though there are doubts in its necessity (thus a part of money quotients, a part federal). And examples decently, including crediting under 5 % of annual separate projects.

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: 0>> Forgive, I not their those three percent DH>  and am bad. Well how to tell... DH> and Gref too not from those. And as a result for it it is more obvious to give to the population money in a mortgage under bestial percent, than Dry on manufacture development under average rate of return. DH> as a result - sickly manufacture stimulated to occupy  650 dollars. Because own banks, banks are not. At what here Gref? The purpose of banks in a capitalist society - to earn money. They borrow money under one percent (at the population, the Central Bank, the companies), and  under another, higher." Here for these two percent I also live "(. Depositary and credit interest rates depend on the basic rate of the Central Bank and a competition to other banks. If Sber now instead of 15 % of the rate on business credits rolls out 5 % borrow money it can only under, say, 3 %. And who now in Russia gives it money for 3 %? I will not give, I will incur in other bank, where percent on deposits above. The Central Bank does not give, at it the basic rate now - 8.25 % As a result of Sber are banal will be destroyed, and millions investors remain without money, financing thus concessionary terms for Dry.

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: 0> At what here Gref? The purpose of banks in a capitalist society - to earn money. No. It at usurers such purpose. And the bank purpose - to develop manufacture. 0> I will not give, I will incur in other bank, where percent on deposits above. The Central Bank does not give, at it the basic rate now - 8.25 % Simply 7 % - the contribution to the Savings Bank - of 7 %  www.sberbank.ru//_7 %  From 100 thousand rbl. for 5 months Percent in the end of period  at you is not joined To the maximum rate

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Hello, DEMON HOOD, you wrote: DH> and the bank purpose - to develop manufacture. Whence you took this statement? 0>> I will not give, I will incur in other bank, where percent on deposits above. The Central Bank does not give, at it the basic rate now - 8.25 % DH> DH> are simple 7 % - the contribution to the Savings Bank - To the maximum rate of 7 %  DH> www.sberbank.ru//_7 %  DH> From 100 thousand rbl. for 5 months Percent in the end of period DH>  at you is not joined That was specific is not joined? How the rate under deposits in Sbere should be joined to the Central Bank rate on which from gives credits to banks?

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Hello, 0x7be, you wrote: DH>> and the bank purpose - to develop manufacture. 0> whence you took this statement? Therefrom that in growth usurers are engaged in a giving of money. And bank! =. If it is difficult to you to think about banks-money. Think than is engaged banks-data. Gives the data under percent? Is not present. 0>>> I will not give, I will incur in other bank, where percent on deposits above. The Central Bank does not give, at it the basic rate now - 8.25 % 0> That was specific are not joined? How the rate under deposits in Sbere should be joined to the Central Bank rate on which from gives credits to banks? Your two statements about deposits.

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S> 2. How much there are no projects? For example, in Novosibirsk found money for the fourth bridge though there are doubts in its necessity (thus a part of money quotients, a part federal). Doubts in necessity in my opinion even at most  are not present, opponents spoke "and give this money for something another we spend, more necessary \urgent". Obviously without understanding that money as those generally are not present in the full volume and under other projects not the fact that it turns out to collect them in such format.