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Topic: About online communities

And after all it would be possible to create illumination Cache-frilans where interested persons could allocate the requirements ( or a TT)...
Only distinct requirements and properly issued. After all for certain there are those who exploits certain projects on the Porridge, which developers threw for a long time already (or disappeared). And if the customer of development of such project can organize small, but budget quite comprehensible to the executor why and is not present.? People would find each other...
Also it would be possible to organize illumination Cache-hack-work where those who on the one hand cannot generate distinct requirements, and on the other hand those who got used to do all a tjap-mistake, but for money would find each other...
And still it would be possible to organize illumination of type Cache-not pay where those to whom on the one hand needs to be made something could find each other, but it not in a state to pay, and on the other hand those who is ready to perform such operation without payment in the free time, but it is very interesting to it to participate in it, at least for own development...
Can administrators of our forum think over it, after all attendance that its decent.? And can give other advice where it would be possible such to organize... The main thing that there attendance was high.
The moderator: as the conversation topic deviated in other side, decided to select this arguing in a new branch. And why so named;
Another did not invent

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AlexKB wrote:

And after all it would be possible to create
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The main thing that there attendance was high.

Here in a principal subject it is not strongly active, and you about . smile))
There was earlier whole forum on Porridge, but died... Well though here something else lives. Also is at whom to ask if secures.

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krvsa;
only to separate advisory subjects from the mercantile...

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AlexKB , it is clear.
Simply here generally  the person is not present, .. And in "separation" there is not enough sense, there is nothing since actually to "divide"... sad((

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krvsa;
And where on Porridge is big .?

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AlexKB , I did not lead world researches. smile)) .. I can not answer your question, excuse...

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krvsa;
I mean Russian-speaking community of Cooks...

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AlexKB , I knew only about two places...
- This branch
- To porridge-forum from IS
Both have not been strongly visited. On the second there were many different sections, but they were empty...
It is possible and to do in this branch a heap of subsections. But they from it will not be filled with a content.
Normally certain "sharing" apply at forums with a content considerable quantity. That it was convenient to understand where to you to write... Or to read that it is interesting to you.
Many empty folders look ridiculously. In my opinion...:-Q

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The previous project ISC (writeimagejournal, ) did not fly up partly because has been made "purely Russian".
However, if who did not note, community lives actively enough: for 2 years of 3700 registered participants from which person 20 are active enough and willingly impart experience. "We" there did not get lost at all, and absolutely on the contrary.
Perfectly I understand that the language barrier can strain, but regularly I see there children with names difficult to pronounce and very bad English, and anything, them understand also it answer.

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Alexey Maslov;
To tell the truth, the design of a forum community at all is not pleasant to me... What that it absolutely "not Russian"...
And it is a lot of others "but"...

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AlexKB wrote:

Alexey Maslov;
To tell the truth, the design of a forum community at all is not pleasant to me... What that it absolutely "not Russian"...
And it is a lot of others "but"...

as to design and other but. It is possible to write sentences about that that it would be desirable to change to add, and all is possible that it will be implemented

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AlexKB wrote:

Alexey Maslov;
To tell the truth, the design of a forum community at all is not pleasant to me... What that it absolutely "not Russian"...
And it is a lot of others "but"...

"Not Russian" - that mean? It is made not on Cache?))
It yes - it is made on  therefore slow enough, but we work over it (in particular).
If there is no compact type - it is (though also not so compact, we can make better).
In general add wishes, we make that it was convenient.
Happy New Year)

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.. wrote:

... One of my former principals considered as a problem excessive concentration of a functional in our system.

Interesting thought.
I am engaged in technical support of the big integrated circuit in group of 10 persons. Anybody from us does not know system entirely.
When in system the developer adds a new functional, something from old breaks, and couple of days of all is in a fever.
Perhaps really it is necessary to restrict complexity of the integrated circuit to certain level?
Struggle against complexity - decomposition...

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DirksDR wrote:

I Am engaged in technical support of the big integrated circuit in group of 10 persons. Anybody from us does not know system entirely.
When in system the developer adds a new functional, something from old breaks, and couple of days of all is in a fever.
Perhaps really it is necessary to restrict complexity of the integrated circuit to certain level?
Struggle against complexity - decomposition...

Here a question to your principal of group actually. That nobody knows systems entirely - normally, but that nobody understands dependences (or there are illogical dependences), already badly. After all if it is possible, it is possible to make decomposition and in one system. If at you it did not turn out decomposition in one system as you without it divide it on two different? And if often all breaks because of dependences, can try to cover critical places with units-tests?
By the way, 10 persons of development in one group - . When at me was 8 (including me) the person the person on development and support, it was already heavy to follow all.
In our case there was a specific situation - there were two main integrated circuits, not including accounts departments. Also there was a contact-center functional in which people who worked in "my" integrated circuit worked. And when questions on connection of the second integrated circuit went, it appeared that all in our integrated circuit, and they somehow sideways that is bad. Here my principal considered that for example, contact-center should be equidistant from two integrated circuits and is somewhat more independent.

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In a context of comparing of advantages between uniform/separate system, I offer history from personal experience.
The idea to make a viki-site for the system climbed up to me in a head. Because the programmer documentation does not give the answer to type questions "why system so works", "as it should work". Quitted with such sentence to a manual. The manual praised, but noted that time to create, it is necessary to create  department, instead of my group, for this purpose it is necessary to select a platform and structure. There transited week, another transited, transited a month and even more, periodically I try to lift this question, but unsuccessfully.
As a result I on one of test servers created , started to fill and informed on it to a manual. The manual told that on test servers such to do badly, decided to select under    which will be serviced by professional managers, I transferred the data there and since then  there and lives. And  other group servers created after a year or more on other, and their separateness in any way does not hinder us.
Being returned to community.intersystems.com, I am assured that this site is created by group of enthusiasts (if not one), to a manual on it  and if from them the consent was required, it would be waited as early as by ten years.
Therefore my judgement - if you can divide the data/processes without duplication - divide. It is not necessary and harmfully to try to do a supercombine. Join of systems which, undoubtedly, is necessary, has limits when minuses start to outweigh pluses.

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Alexey Maslov wrote:

Non-authorized users hardly probable create serious loading on a DB, they after all can read only it, prices any and any shared information, so? To make any changes in a DB, registration is necessary.

In my practice the main loading all the same went on reading. We admit, at you an e-commerce shop. The user walks on a site, pulls directories, then dares to make purchase, starts to add the goods in a basket. As the basket is stored on the server registration already happened, and only at the moment of acknowledgement of purchase the system asks the address/mail/phone. I.e. non-authorized users in system simply are not present. There is an explicit and latent registration.
Such organizations as Novosibirskenergosbyt can  the user at a registration stage (and have for this base), but the majority of the organizations is afraid to frighten off the visitors.

Alexey Maslov wrote:

If a bottleneck - CPU

the Overload on CPU normally see, and here at an overload of disk system simply shrug shoulders. Not all even SSD use.

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.. wrote:

There is an explicit and latent registration.

Anyway it is registration.
In case of Cache high loading on reading too well enough is horizontally scaled by means of ECP. Loading on record, for the clear reasons, is scaled worse.

.. wrote:

the Overload on CPU normally see, and here at an overload of disk system simply shrug shoulders...

... Until the record demon does not cease to submit life signs then if do not see at once feel.

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Alexey Maslov wrote:

it is passed...
...Until the record demon does not cease to submit life signs then if do not see at once feel.

See that earlier, but cannot understand where to look. Put high-efficiency storage, more powerful, and speed does not increase (sometimes even falls). To porridge uses it for percent. Add storages, a little bit helps, as a result, give up as a bad job and speak - "and, she is yours to Porridge is not able to work with a disk, what a difference MSSQL".

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.. wrote:

Put high-efficiency storage, more powerful, and speed does not increase (sometimes even falls). To porridge uses it for percent...

did not face with such (probably, carried). Where there was a bottleneck? Reading? Record in a DB? Logging?

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.. wrote:

On SSD. Exact models I will not prompt, excuse. The main thing that have been intended for servers.

company BackBlaze periodically spreads reports on survivability of different models of disks. Interesting labels. As far as I know they render services something of type of cloudy storage. At them about hundred thousand disks.