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Topic: From what to begin schoolboy to become the successful programmer?

Respected such situation.
The son the schoolboy came to me and told that he  decided that wants to become the programmer. That to it such in ears inflated I do not know (can that I take frequent operation on the house))) but here happens. To it truth is a little more years (will be 10) and before it was going to become the machinist of an electric train))))), but it was in the early childhood. And now told that its this accurate decision.
Question in that such except https://scratch.mit.edu/it to recommend? Whether it is necessary to walk on courses (now them on scratch much, but it is very expensive) or this overindulgence and it is necessary to orient on something it? There can be any books to the accessible 10 summer boy? (From actual hobbies at it is still Roblox, minecraft and still it removes Stikbot animated cartoons).
I will be grateful for councils!

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wrote:

the Question in that such except https://scratch.mit.edu/it to recommend?

To write compositions.
I am serious. Programming is an operation over the thoughts. Issued verbally. The beginning of such operation is put at lessons of Russian and mathematics at school. It is time, English language at level above basic - for the literature often  - two.
Three as a variant - https://www.playcodemonkey.com/and  https://lifehacker.ru/2015/04/12/10-igr … ammirovat/

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Logic to study and develop, logical tasks to solve. To study bases of algorithms-is obligatory without what the present programmer never turns out. Well and  to the mathematician. These are bases. Independently to solve unpretentious problem books for programmers, by means of in advance selected programming language which syntax needs to be studied also that it turned out and it was interesting.
Well also it is finite, it is necessary to deliver before itself any more difficult complex problem, for example to write game, or the specific program with specific functions, to deliver periods of its decision, the frame, to make  so it will be more approached to a reality-))) Well and desire first of all. Also it is possible to advise any textbooks, there is a set of videocourses.

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There are by the way good textbooks on algorithms and programming for children. I will try to find-write to you.

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Americans by the way  the good literature on algorithms and logic let out Something, really standing, and ours our managers urge to be primitive coders at the American uncles-)
That is why yes-English in this situation  it is necessary to know well.
As the majority of the good literature on it.
But is and  quite good.
The moderator: the Subject is transferred from a forum "Operation".

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About compositions Vladimir is completely right.

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softwarer;
Still (not a fantasy) it is necessary to add a fantasy (proceeding from researches of the Chinese scientists)
And that writing of compositions frightens off

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nopox;
With  on  to learn to study and study!
And first of all to learn to think))
Well here is how that so!

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! Hundred times still itself changes the mind. It is time already the nobility to what it is more inclined  /  /  / ...
Web design too  name... If the technician is, chances  a way are great not to avoid this most (because of money). And then, it can appear only short episode in the general working experience.
To esteem forums of programmers, at once it is visible, as a little they own competent Russian and presentation of thoughts. From mathematics there is useful only its discrete section is more often. And for  and generally .
Above precisely marked about .
Prepares animated cartoons? Here let also it is trained pr-zmu on data domain interesting to it, being engaged in automation of the activity.  it the director becomes. And durable is immediate pr-nie conducts to the depletion of the person connected to a depletion of own lexicon, and to isolation from life. Problems with sight - are great chances.
Exceptions are rare.
Good luck!

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exp98 wrote:

here let also it is trained pr-zmu on data domain interesting to it, being engaged in automation of the activity.

To It truth is a little more years (will be 10)
The activity it while hardly.... Automates.....

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It is possible to transit http://codecombat.com

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Vladimir Baskakov wrote:

to It truth is a little more years (will be 10)
The activity it while hardly.... Automates.....

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0. To work in a tandem - i.e. to do something that will be quite interesting to one and on forces to understand to another wink.
1. To program a personal page.
Technology web not soon die, acquaintance to them superfluous will not be.
the elementary   on Vue/React + jQuery as development perspective.
At the same time gets acquainted with SQL (MySql).
2. To write the elementary video game.
Yes-yes, a snake and a tetris. It is possible to visualize "life", but any more so it is interesting.
Well here so much all can be studied in process that probably he decides what to be the machinist of an electric train not too not abruptly.

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Ruslan Damirovich;
I think that it is necessary to be defined at first with a direction!

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to become the successful programmer it is not enough to be able to program well. Programming for the sake of programming is necessary for nobody, the decision of specific targets, since it all the same craft, instead of art is necessary.
Output: except programming it is necessary to know well enough data domain in which you are going to program. I.e. as at doctors: at first to study all in the general things, and further one in surgeons, others in proctologists etc.

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nopox;
In my school days all to whom programming was interesting, hung up after lessons in a class with UK-NTS though with bread do not feed. All began with the BASIC. Drawing of circles, lines. RND a picture in style of 600 seconds with lines. Programs for the decision of quadratic equations. And, anybody is all did not force. It is we operators learned , rewrote programs each other in a writing-book. Read Pjarnpuu - Programming in the modern algorithmic languages.
10 years are 4 class? Hardly at this age the schoolboy something understands about Javascript or SQL.
Deliver  MS QuickBasic, show it the drawing circle, line . The book any unpretentious - same Pjarnpuu allow to esteem. With QB many demos go - a drawing everyone, and in not those many examples. After a drawing as a rule there is an interest to dig further.

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nopox wrote:

the Son the schoolboy came to me and told that he  decided that wants to become the programmer.

As a variant to buy to it Arduino, let tries. On the one hand, to steam of code lines at once turn to a blinked LED or moving servo-driver, on the other hand, understands that this such.

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nopox;
Let learns mathematics, a priority - algebra, combinatorics
If will understand, remaining it is secondary - a command "go to buy some bread also pampers do not forget", any masters

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Benny Blanco;
I do not think that  now it is necessary to pull out.
It is better vb or one of "toy" languages.
Them for training just created much

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Areostar;
Vb6 Or vb.net can  injure not strong children's brain.  and qb it is necessary to study a class with 7th.

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exp98 wrote:

From mathematics there is useful only its discrete section is more often. And for  and generally .

the Mathematics is useful to that sharpens ability to think abstractly.
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Well and English language - is mandatory.

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Benny Blanco wrote:

Areostar;
Vb6 Or vb.net can  injure not strong children's brain.  and qb it is necessary to study a class with 7th.

+1

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I am am pleased with statements "language   injures not strong children's brain. It is not necessary to learn , it is necessary to take " And each adviser has the  and M. And they are ready to break spears and  in  address...
And all forget to specify, and what is  a brain and than injured differs from not injured?

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White Owl;
I am not ready to break a spear, but I am afraid, what even  with qb 15 minutes, any normal  quickly passes to  and to mastering of railway PIKO, machines Matchbox and designer LEGO.

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nopox wrote:

to It truth is a little more years (will be 10)
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Question in that such except https://scratch.mit.edu/it to recommend?

to Recommend to it??? Scoff?
Not, I understand that for the parent - own child already adult genius simply for the present small growth. Here only the reality will be that that in "10" is still the nine-year child. It is necessary so to solve first of all to you as to the parent: whether you want to push the child on a way to this  or not.
If you want to grow up from the child of the programmer (or generally the expert in IT, with any specialization) - that throw up the book where in the is fantastic-game form it is told to it about computers generally and programming in particular. Throw up to it toys with  a bias (those scratch, logo any variation and ) It is possible to throw up simple , those which to you as to the parent seem simple and in which you can train - play with  in this language.
Then you will have a chance that for years  the child does not forget the desire or does not knock down it purely from desire to argue with parents.

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Benny Blanco wrote:

White Owl;
I am not ready to break a spear, but I am afraid, what even  with qb 15 minutes, any normal  quickly passes to  and to mastering of railway PIKO, machines Matchbox and designer LEGO.

If for 15 minutes  receives result perceived and exciting imagination - that does not pass.
And if he in flow of half an hour has to write strange  and then, maybe, to receive  (the error report which should be understood still) that is mandatory passes or generally leaves in football to drive. And it by the way, concerns not only fourth-graders, but also  both even fifth-year students and especially adult people with diplomas about higher education and long-term experience.
So QB as the first  very much even approaches, as well as many other languages without difficult adjustment of the project and with easily accessible drawing. Or that, on what to the given specific trainee is interesting to look (an ex-fur-tree at least).