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Topic: Protection shareware programs

Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise.

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Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. The unpretentious generator . All the same, to whom it is necessary, that breaks. Break monsters - Microsoft, Embarkadero, Eppl, silly to think that do not crack any small developer.

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Hello, temnik, you wrote: T> Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P>> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. T> the unpretentious generator . All the same, to whom it is necessary, that breaks. Break monsters - Microsoft, Embarkadero, Eppl, silly to think that do not crack any small developer. And it is possible more in detail about the generator? Why the?

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Hello, temnik, you wrote: T> Break monsters - Microsoft, Embarkadero, Eppl, silly to think that do not crack any small developer. If "protection" consists of one IF, this favourite business for l33t haxxorz, which with pleasure for-nop-jat this IF and let out release with a pomp to stand out before . E there something hardly more difficult they  also hammer, and qualified reversers will not waste time on breaking  a software.

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Hello, wantus, you wrote: W> If "protection" consists of one IF, this favourite business for l33t haxxorz, which with pleasure for-nop-jat this IF and let out release with a pomp to stand out before . W> E there something hardly more difficult they  also hammer, All is true. W> and qualified reversers will not waste time on breaking  a software. Too it is true. But with one "But" - if it for it do not pay. Since to whom that laziness 300$ and more for  a software to pay - he to pay such  100$ and both will be glad.

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Hello, Roman Vasin, you wrote: W>> If "protection" consists of one IF... W>> E there something hardly more difficult they  also hammer, W>> and qualified reversers will not waste time on breaking  a software. RV> too it is true. But with one "But" - if it for it do not pay. Since to whom that laziness 300$ and more for  a software to pay - he to pay such  100$ and both will be glad. By the way and the economy of this process of action Here economy  I interests so I understand (correct if not so):  to groups pay  sites (sites and there are these .) turning off  the advertizing, sitting down trojans on desktops of users (steal purses passwords and ) and now  direct payment of "operation" And how reverse of protection of a software "qualified " for which someone works paid the partial cost? That is there pure  should be, time it is paid? Or all the same with  1) whether there is a such? And 2) where their centers of dwelling-dialogue?

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Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. 1. You write the generator  2.  which of them calculates hashes 3. You flood  to the logger, and hashes in a program. 4. In a program you calculate a hash entered  and you look on basis if is not present, goto exit; if a program break, then spread on  unsigned, and those who to it will use not your clients. If disperses present  you delete its hash from basis and you spread the new version. The hinged protector  is not necessary.

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U> if disperses present  you delete its hash from basis and you spread the new version. Very many the newest version also is not necessary.

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Hello, rean, you wrote: that is the key at you  on a course of operation of the program also is then compared to the certain number sewn up in the code or even is simple with 0 or 1?

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Hello, Mna, you wrote: Mna> And how reverse of protection of a software "qualified " for which someone works paid the partial cost? That is there pure  should be, time it is paid? Or all the same with  Mna> 1) whether there is a such? And 2) where their centers of dwelling-dialogue? For my history (with mine the program) by a part  - there were 3 types of situations: 1. The program "ordered", that is  cracked for a smaller money. Broke off completely protection and any .  gave the program to the customer without everyone , then spread on all sites/catalogues - too without . 2.  cracked completely the program. Then changed resources, changed a program name. On the site sold on its own behalf. 3.  cracked the program. But on the site, facebook to group, youtube the channel (did rollers!) - Showed that the program is cracked - and sold this crack for a price part. That is in open sites the program did not spread for the general downloading. Plus there were also common stories - when there was a protection with one condition IF or when used ASProtect (when cracked) - there already "kids" cracked it for 5 minutes and spread on all sites.

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Hello, rean, you wrote: R> And in last I generally hammered in couple of years to track breakings so at all I do not know, cracked or not. R> In the Russian Federation  close, the organizations  masks-shows, and in the west software cost - copecks. To buy than  search of breaking R> easier and to launch not clear  . So I plan to hammer generally on such complexities with keys and to leave one idle time IF. Well, besides there are people from the east and other directions. Which will use a crack (in case of one IF). Instead of it is simple so - time the West - means there is money, can buy. Therefore to leave one idle time IF, I think, it is not necessary.

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Hello, wantus, you wrote: T>> Break monsters - Microsoft, Embarkadero, Eppl, silly to think that do not crack any small developer. W> if "protection" consists of one IF, this favourite business for l33t haxxorz, which with pleasure for-nop-jat this IF and let out release with a pomp to stand out before . Those who from these garbage sites the software swings, all the same buy nothing. In these hemorrhoids with protection it is necessary to be got involved only if at you such price list that any casual sale pays back expenditures on protection on couple of years forward.

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Hello, Roman Vasin, you wrote: W>> and qualified reversers will not waste time on breaking  a software. RV> Since to whom that laziness 300$ and more for  a software to pay - he to pay such  100$ and both will be glad. What percent of your buyers so easily can find qualified ?

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Hello, uuuser, you wrote: U> Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P>> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. U> 1. You write the generator  U> 2.  which of them calculates hashes U> 3. You flood  to the logger, and hashes in a program. U> 4. In a program you calculate a hash entered  and you look on basis if is not present, goto exit; it is impossible So to do. At such "protection" the most simple variant to "break" the program is to steal a card and to buy on it . After that the current version becomes accessible to everything, you receive plus chargeback. And so with each release. As a matter of fact, such protection pushes  to credit card fraud and reserves the full archive of operating versions. The bare check of keys online removes both problems - to steal  begins senselessly and there is a necessity  to break a software that already on the order it is more difficult.

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P> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. I wrote the virtual machine, the compiler to it, well and the code for check  . Then it built in the application. And thu-thu till this moment  still is not present. On ruboard told that "protection ". One person Kakatusev  the program, but I am pure on  asked it not to spread anywhere it that it (to it) and made thanks. As a matter of fact if who that breaks the program  that it consider a fuck-up to your works, and you not microsoft what similar became for you the reason more never to these to be engaged. So be guided by virtual machines. If I am interesting still did protection on a basis  (to steam  scripts the Author: nen777w Date: 26.11.13 (the last version not on rsdn and )), only are built in they not in  and in generated asm the code (gcc-s), but did not begin to use, me did not arrange  on speed.

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Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. The Enigma Protector, write if there will be what questions.

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Hello, Poseidon, you wrote: P> Hello, for a long time did not write here) Since Armadillo v2. And what use now? About VMProtect . Can eat that more cheaply? Well not each user gets to break the program to whom it is necessary. And Armadillo suited Me, but after the such... Or all the same to remain on it? That  advise. At us New Year's discounts the Author now operate: drVan Date: 20.12 09:27 I do not know 350$ for VMProtect Ultimate it for you also expensively or already was not present.

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V> At us New Year's discounts the Author now operate: drVan Date: 20.12 09:27 and I do not know 350$ for VMProtect Ultimate it for you also expensively or already was not present. And it only on one platform or on all?

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Hello, nen777w, you wrote: V>> At us New Year's discounts the Author now operate: drVan Date: 20.12 09:27 and I do not know 350$ for VMProtect Ultimate it for you also expensively or already was not present. N> And it only on one platform or on all? We begin that the version under any platform supports all dial-up  (for example the version under Windows the Author is able to protect  from OSX and Linux, and in the near future also.NET: drVan Date: 29.12 21:05, and on the contrary). Necessity of acquisition VMProtect under some platforms can be connected only to necessity to launch VMprotect on these platforms. Now about the prices. $350 it really cost VMprotect Ultimate for one platform, the purchase price under the second and the third will be even less ($499 - 50 % = $250 for a platform).

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Hello, wantus, you wrote: W> it is impossible So to do. At such "protection" the most simple variant to "break" the program is to steal a card and to buy on it . After that the current version becomes accessible to everything, you receive plus chargeback. And so with each release. As a matter of fact, such protection pushes  to credit card fraud and reserves the full archive of operating versions. In my modest judgement solvent people are greedy for the last versions, it is enough to recall 10 when  there is nothing people were proud of the hemorrhoids, well and permanently I read moaning in comments of products in : what for, return, it is impossible... Always it would be desirable to ask, and  updated at all  responses? W> the bare check of keys online removes both problems - to steal  begins senselessly and there is a necessity  to break a software that already on the order it is more difficult. The elementary check "online" unless does not add  to support to explain to users how to disconnect this or that  an antivirus? Or something changed?

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Hello, uuuser, you wrote: U> the elementary check "online" unless does not add  to support to explain to users how to disconnect this or that  an antivirus? A zero of problems of this plan. It is not "not enough", namely "zero".

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Hello, nen777w, you wrote: N> As a matter of fact if who that breaks the program  that it consider a fuck-up to your works, and you not microsoft what similar became for you the reason more never to these to be engaged. It is necessary to rejoice, this recognition,  radio, the traffic, and sales in the solvent countries,  not uncontested microsoft!

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If check of serial numbers is implemented the and it is necessary to protect only the data and the code - I recommend to pay attention on DotFix NiceProtect. The product very dynamically develops also cost of the license with New Year's coupon RSDN2018 begins from $79 (hardly more than 4500 roubles).

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Hello, wantus, you wrote: W> Hello, uuuser, you wrote: U>> the elementary check "online" unless does not add  to support to explain to users how to disconnect this or that  an antivirus? W> a zero of problems of this plan. It is not "not enough", namely "zero". From here it is possible more in detail? That the pier  in a network climbs!?! If a software for a network, it is clear. And if is not present? If  not for a network? Users really do not swear?