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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> we tell New Zealand eftpos completely it is free both for the client and for business, that is the commission for payment - 0 % for all participants of the transaction. Therefore all small business accepts eftpos, [...] EFTPOS by the English queen it is made for tax money?

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Hello, salnicoff, you wrote: M> and an operating time of competences in the country it is necessary to pay For independence, why is not present? Otherwise and we will worship to white people with pocket mirrors. And that bad what the foreign system/product which is better local is used? Why I the money should pay political slogans about any independence? M> here has been based UnionPay in 2002, and now breathes in a back to the Visa. Explicitly because has any competitive advantages. What hindered to translate all state employees on UnionPay?

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Hello, salnicoff, you wrote: M>> and an operating time of competences in the country it is necessary to pay For independence, why is not present? Otherwise and we will worship to white people with pocket mirrors. S> and that bad what the foreign system/product which is better local is used? Why I the money should pay political slogans about any independence? - Leaving currency  abroad. And we spend irreplaceable oil for currency. - loss of competences - stability threat (yes, any Visa could deliver in a stopper trade in the country) M>> Here has been based UnionPay in 2002, and now breathes in a back to the Visa. S> it is explicit because has any competitive advantages. What hindered to translate all state employees on UnionPay? To pay the commissions to Chineses? That abilities in  payment systems were received by Chineses? That Chineses could hold for  banking system of the Russian Federation? And what actually the WORLD has lacks? If has - it is necessary to eliminate. You in the to the program eliminate bugs, instead of buy the program of the competitor and go on a dustbin to work in Yandex (taxi driver).

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ov>> I will deliver myself  for couple of years, we consider results in 2019 S> Give. Delivered. But to appear from a position "the woman  against" it is uninteresting, so give we install criteria on which it is possible who from us will judge was (more) the rights. I offer to begin with: - existence of cards of patterns and payment system. If it is all a hogwash, its popularity falls or it generally close. - alternative payment systems (visas,  and other) - their prohibition are afraid local "" - whether there will be all of them in a course in the country? - The commissions for operations - at least should be more low, than at the visa/masterkarda, and as a maximum also not to grow more than on inflation. Now it is 10-40 copecks for operation, judging by rates . - an output on the foreign markets - it is primary about it speech did not go, but in adjacent comments on it started talking, so let will be. If quits in other countries is there will be explicit plus to system. From a phrase " monopoly" we so can check up monopolization.  - hardly. I here found the annual report on 2016, there still it is visible 2015. Alas, mind does not suffice me to estimate disaster scales, but I admit that if there all  to me show that  simply hid from audit. Lockup. Ideas?

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M> To system of PATTERNS there is one big claim - its authors do not try to deduce it on the global market. It is necessary to begin at least with  any. I think it it is necessary at first in  to implement under the full program before abroad to go. , more shortly, at first and so, judging by ,  plans on connection to the world. Not absolutely foreign market, of course, but nevertheless. M> here has been based UnionPay in 2002, and now breathes in a back to the Visa. Breathes by an amount of the let out cards, judging by your post in the politician? Can it is simple to all Chineses forcedly distributed on a card?

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Hello, ov, you wrote: M>> To system of PATTERNS there is one big claim - its authors do not try to deduce it on the global market. It is necessary to begin at least with  any. ov> I think it it is necessary at first in  to implement under the full program before abroad to go. , more shortly, at first and here I personally, living here, I think that is necessary on the contrary - at first let on Englishmen test, well or on Syrians, and then already here to me in a drink put.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov>>> I will deliver myself  for couple of years, we consider results in 2019 S>> Give. ov> delivered. But to appear from a position "the woman  against" it is uninteresting, so give we install criteria on which it is possible who from us will judge was is (more right. I offer to begin with: ov> - existence of cards of patterns and payment system. If it is all a hogwash, its popularity falls or it generally close. ov> - alternative payment systems (visas,  and other) - their prohibition are afraid local "" - whether there will be all of them in a course in the country? It is a difficult piece. If all data processes all the same , whether that it is possible to tell, what at us here the visa or ? Already now? ov> - the commissions for operations - at least should be more low, than at the visa/masterkarda, and as a maximum also not to grow more than on inflation. Now it is 10-40 copecks for operation, ov> from a phrase " monopoly" we so can check up monopolization.  - hardly. Yes, it especially you will not check up. Give we write down that if will be video of Navalnogo with  then , and differently is not present remaining well.

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S> it is a difficult piece. If all data processes all the same , whether that it is possible to tell, what at us here the visa or ? Already now? Not, the initial message was in that (if above to esteem) that all remaining systems forbid. Probably there the author was not in course of a current state of affairs but if to speak about monopoly there should be only a world, and the visa should be inaccessible. S> yes, it especially you will not check up. Give we write down that if will be video of Navalnogo with  then , and differently is not present oh... As though it is softer... Give without it, and? S> and here I personally, living here, I think that is necessary on the contrary - at first let on Englishmen test, well or on Syrians, and then already here to me in a drink put. I suspect that to you personally in a drink generally anybody of nothing vanities as you with the world are intersected a maximum on servers of payment system where your transactions under your visa are processed near to grandmother's pensions. All talk and no action...

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Hello, ov, you wrote: S>> it is a difficult piece. If all data processes all the same , whether that it is possible to tell, what at us here the visa or ? Already now? ov> not, the initial message was in that (if above to esteem) that all remaining systems forbid. Probably there the author was not in course of a current state of affairs but if to speak about monopoly there should be only a world, and the visa should be inaccessible. And, not, such will not be, certainly. S>> yes, it especially you will not check up. Give we write down that if will be video of Navalnogo with  then , and differently is not present ov> oh... As though it is softer... Give without it, and? Well give without it, too it is possible. S>> and here I personally, living here, I think that is necessary on the contrary - at first let on Englishmen test, well or on Syrians, and then already here to me in a drink put. ov> I suspect that to you personally in a drink generally anybody of nothing vanities as you with the world are intersected a maximum on servers of payment system where your transactions under your visa are processed near to grandmother's pensions. All talk and no action... If to look at an arguing subject, actually, it appears that  vanities, and suddenly I can start to be intersected with the world more than it would be desirable. I, eventually, only on the Internet also trade.

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S> If to look at an arguing subject, actually, it appears that  vanities, and suddenly I can start to be intersected with the world more than it would be desirable. I, eventually, only on the Internet also trade. You trade through the logger? Well so it not your care will be. If you process payments to fasten one more system should become routine already. So all the same in favor of the poor.

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12/29/2017 19:24, salnicoff writes:> the signature delivered by a card-passport will be the True signature.> banking - a substitute of the signature only for bank; if it> to use for the signature something another - superfluous layers turn out. Well so speech in my opinion as a matter of fact also went that on the basis of technologies of "World" the electronic passport in due course will be made.> H> if to speak generally about the national card which has been not anchored> H> to the visa/master to make it and to advance greatest possible> H> methods for calculations in the country - absolutely correct decision,> H> not so unique for the Russian Federation. In China is UnionPay, in Europe somewhere too> H> there are cards, in particular in Denmark in my opinion it is called Dankort.>> Is. But them advance absolutely other methods - users should> receive any buns from its usage. In a case with "World"> advancement goes even not administrative,> is categorical-violent methods. And to you, forgive, whence it can be known what methods them advance? I here have on it no abacus the slightest representations. But quite I admit that without an administrative resource there does not manage. - WBR, Serge. Posted via RSDN NNTP Server 2.1 beta

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: S>> And that bad what the foreign system/product which is better local is used? Why I the money should pay political slogans about any independence? M> - leaving currency  abroad. And we spend irreplaceable oil for currency. Who "we"? I - was not present. M> - loss of competences If them it was not primary, and there is nothing to lose too. M> - stability threat (yes, any Visa could deliver in a stopper trade in the country) "Visa" is least interested in a trade stop in the country. M> to pay the commissions to Chineses? That abilities in  payment systems were received by Chineses? That Chineses could hold for  banking system of the Russian Federation? Yes let everybody for eggs hold - they not mine. The payment tool is necessary to me. M> and what actually lacks the WORLD has? If has - it is necessary to eliminate. M> you in the to the program eliminate bugs, instead of buy the program of the competitor and go on a dustbin to work in Yandex (taxi driver). It should be the position of the developer. To me as the client, all the same than to use, the main thing that the product solved my problem.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> - existence of cards of patterns and payment system. If it is all a hogwash, its popularity falls or it generally close. And here not the fact. In remote villages till now put coin telephones - because under them selected budget money. From them nobody rings - at all is cellular, but coin telephones put and service. As will be and with "World".

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Hello, hrensgory, you wrote: H> 29.12.2017 19:24, salnicoff writes:>> the signature delivered by a card-passport will be the True signature.>> banking - a substitute of the signature only for bank; if it>> to use for the signature something another - superfluous layers turn out. H> well so speech in my opinion as a matter of fact also went that on the basis of technologies of "World" H> the electronic passport in due course will be made. And it was a question that is more useless from the payment tool to do the passport - tensioning of an owl on the globe turns out. H> and to you, forgive, whence it can be known their what methods H> advance? I here have on it no abacus the slightest representations. But H> quite I admit that without an administrative resource there does not manage. Whom? "World"? Purely administrative. It is known for certain.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: S>> If to look at an arguing subject, actually, it appears that  vanities, and suddenly I can start to be intersected with the world more than it would be desirable. I, eventually, only on the Internet also trade. ov> you trade through the logger? Well so it not your care will be. If you process payments to fasten one more system should become routine already. So all the same in favor of the poor. Yes is not present, not in favor of the poor. If it appears that my logger did not fasten to itself the PATTERNS, and I sell through it I break the law that I should accept the world. Like , and the law is broken.

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S> yes is not present, not in favor of the poor. If it appears that my logger did not fasten to itself the PATTERNS, and I sell through it I break the law that I should accept the world. Like , and the law is broken. If you sell through the logger to accept the world it should, instead of you. With it also will understand, you here and? And it I am silent that at the normal logger before simply does not reach. And to a heap: at you on a site high-grade Russian accessories are specified to understand, what you here are is specific should to accept the world?

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Hello, Sharowarsheg, you wrote: ov>> you trade through the logger? Well so it not your care will be. If you process payments to fasten one more system should become routine already. So all the same in favor of the poor. S> yes is not present, not in favor of the poor. If it appears that my logger did not fasten to itself the PATTERNS, and I sell through it I break the law that I should accept the world. Like , and the law is broken. If the mayor takes bribes, you too break the law?

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Hello, salnicoff, you wrote: S> And here not the fact. In remote villages till now put coin telephones - because under them selected budget money. From them nobody rings - at all is cellular, but coin telephones put and service. As will be and with "World". Once I got to a foolish situation. The station, phone sat down, I meet the person. And in any way to call - all jump aside, and the coin telephone is not present. Still enrages absence of coin telephones in hospitals - to the patient difficult to call without personal things.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> breathes by an amount of the let out cards, judging by your post in the politician? Can it is simple to all Chineses forcedly distributed on a card? In China anything free of charge does not happen, even prisoners pay bullets from machine guns at execution.

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12/31/2017 19:39, salnicoff writes:> From: *salnicoff* </Users/108197.aspx>> H> Well so speech in my opinion as a matter of fact also went that on the basis of technologies of "World"> H> the electronic passport in due course will be made.>> and it was a question that is more useless from the payment tool to do> the passport - tensioning of an owl on the globe turns out. In the Moscow underground some cards it is possible to pay journey directly, without purchase of tickets, directly putting them to a turnstile. It, frankly speaking, not their quite customary usage, however is convenient. In round-the-clock waiting rooms of separations of banks where cash dispenses are installed, the card opens a door. It is possible to pay without a card by means of phone (ApplePay/SamsungPay), not to mention that that now it only one of several tens applications in  the device - all it too it is possible to name "phone" "tensioning of an owl on the globe".> H> And to you, forgive, whence it can be known their what methods> H> advance? I here have on it no abacus the slightest representations. But> H> quite I admit that without an administrative resource there does not manage.>> whom? "World"? Purely administrative. It is known for certain. No, not "World". Chinese UnionPay, the European cards. - WBR, Serge. Posted via RSDN NNTP Server 2.1 beta

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Hello, hrensgory, you wrote: H> round-the-clock waiting rooms of separations of banks where cash dispenses are installed, whether It is possible to open  , for example a discount card from shop?

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H> In the Moscow underground some (banking) cards it is possible to pay journey directly, H> without purchase of tickets, directly putting them to a turnstile. It, directly H> we tell, not their quite customary usage, however is convenient.  - Logic

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Hello, hrensgory, you wrote: H> In the Moscow underground some cards it is possible to pay journey directly, H> without purchase of tickets, directly putting them to a turnstile. It, directly H> we tell, not their quite customary usage, however is convenient. E-e-e... Purchase of the one-time ticket by a payment card is a misuse of a payment card??? H> in H> round-the-clock waiting rooms of separations of banks where cash dispenses are installed, H> the card opens a door. On idea, it is authorization of the user for obtaining of banking services. H> it is possible to pay without a card by means of phone H> (ApplePay/SamsungPay), And in phone that lies? Correctly, a card. The most normal bank card. H> is not present, not "World". Chinese UnionPay, the European cards. About Chineses of anything I can not tell, and the national European appeared approximately at the same time when Visa/MC did something significant: mastered the new country, changed technologies and etc. So appearance of national cards in Europe is a result of a competition of one local banks with others.