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Topic: You trade on the Internet - is obliged to accept the WORLD

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Re: You trade on the Internet - is obliged to accept the WORLD

And it is good. Only the cash register thus unfortunately will be all the same necessary...

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Hello, Arsen. Shnurkov, you wrote: AS> And it is good. Only the cash register thus unfortunately will be all the same necessary... If begin to demand it from foreign e-commerce shops, it simply leads to radical abbreviation of e-commerce shops accessible to Russians.

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M> If begin to demand it from foreign e-commerce shops, it simply leads to radical abbreviation of e-commerce shops accessible to Russians. What for to demand from foreign e-commerce shops to accept cards of the Russian national payment system? The same purely internal system. If the WORLD make correctly it will be possible for it both in the RuNet and in shops to pay off, and if is absolutely correct, it will be possible also international system to fasten to it on the same plastic. In many countries there are such systems and anybody still while like did not guess to be restricted to exceptional them. In some countries even in an Internet it is impossible to pay off with such cards, only in shops. Therefore cards simultaneously support both national system and any VISA. In shop you pay in national system without percent, in an Internet - the visa. A PIN code one, conveniently. : on  - alarmists and whiners, do not trust them

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Hello, Michael7, you wrote: M> If begin to demand it from foreign e-commerce shops, it simply leads to radical abbreviation of e-commerce shops accessible to Russians. Something I do not see overlapped access neither to free films, nor to an online casino though  and courts from  permanently try to close them.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> if the WORLD make correctly it will be possible for it both in the RuNet and in shops to pay off, and if is absolutely correct, it will be possible also international system to fasten to it on the same plastic.  typical  monopoly, they should not work with other systems, them it is necessary to tire out all to itself and that into variants. Well if this WORLD in the country is though as that  to work.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, marcopolo, you wrote: M> Something I do not see overlapped access neither to free films, nor to an online casino though  and courts from  permanently try to close them. Yes because in practice  it both on pirates and on a casino. The Mihalkovsky 1 % collects  where better. As soon as a question of support of arrival of monetary flows to whom it becomes necessary - superimpose in the best possible way.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: CC> it is good if this WORLD in the country is though as that  to work. Will not be. It try to thrust and invent in each hole a heap of applications unusual for the payment tool. For example, there is a project of combination of a card of "Patterns" and student's .

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Hello, Michael7, you wrote: M> https://geektimes.ru/post/296709/M> That is interesting, is told nothing that is a question of the Russian e-commerce shops. Laws so do not work, it is time to learn already. The requirement to include about one paragraph all relevant particulars . Besides, in existing system of laws can be specified how to interpret this paragraph. That will be authorized, and that is forbidden in advance it is impossible to tell. Lawyers exist knowingly, and it is a trade (what there many thought) not for idiots. Another surprises me - nobody pays attentions to cynicism of the authorities (and the people) in a question of Crimea. I.e. banks there normally do not work, actually being an explorer of hostile sanctions in territory of Russia. Thus seriously consider such pseudo-protectionist hogwash.

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Hello, ins-omnia, you wrote: IO> I.e. banks there normally do not work, actually being an explorer of hostile sanctions in territory of Russia. , your principal told that sanctions on favor, so all in  with a batch line.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: IO>> I.e. banks there normally do not work, actually being an explorer of hostile sanctions in territory of Russia. CC> Spokuha, your principal told that sanctions on favor, so all in  with a batch line. How these things are connected? Also I do not know that there the principal told (behind it Americans track in the core), and sanctions  on favor at least in one relation - people understand boundary between newspapers and a reality is better. And the USA this boundary thaws in the face of (in sense ability it to see).

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Hello, ins-omnia, you wrote: IO> As these things are connected? So directly: time principal told that on favor - it means well and banks correctly do all, putting favor according to a batch and government line. IO> also I do not know that there the principal told Here it is not necessary to this superfluous modesty! IO> and sanctions  on favor Well, time principal told that on favor - means on favor! Other variants does not happen. IO> and the USA this boundary thaws in the face of (in sense ability it to see). Aha, . It too the principal told.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: CC> So directly: time principal told that on favor - it means well and banks correctly do all, putting favor according to a batch and government line. Tone any strange. It during reorganization and ranne-postreorganization time was fashionable. People imitated clowns from cultures-nomenkulatury, thinking that it approaches them to intellectual elite. There was even such newspaper - "Literary" - there all texts consisted or of a hysterical cry on municipal kitchen, or from malicious mutter of the fallen drunk. I.e. it is literally as though madwomen wrote. And people all it read (well many, I could not understand it). It now absolutely got out of fashion, and those clowns almost all . It is not necessary more shortly, and that as though the Brighton loser,  on  since 80th years (I understand, what not that case, but an image itself before eyes rises). IO>> and sanctions  on favor CC> Well, time principal told that on favor - means on favor! Other variants does not happen. Now I remember, he like said that from them harm (from 3 hands). Well most likely he actually spoke both that, and another. It so in the politician often happens - the first person should be for all good and against all bad, therefore is frequent about what. And polarization of judgements happens at level of batches. IO>> and the USA this boundary thaws in the face of (in sense ability it to see). CC> Aha, . It too the principal told. Here it I do not think - at us of abroad only the general words. And in vain, by the way, the people need to be educated. Simply I read that write at you. Heat of madness (and not in connection with Russia even)  rises the last years.

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CC> typical  monopoly the client does not pay in Etozh for service, business pays to bank as well as with any other plastic. Plastic lets out banks, it is a lot of banks, where monopoly? Where ? CC> they should not work with other systems, them it is necessary to tire out all to itself and that into variants. To whom "it"? Several tens banks which already work with this system? They idiots to refuse other systems in favor of one?

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CC>> it is good if this WORLD in the country is though as that  to work. S> will not be. It try to thrust and invent in each hole a heap of applications unusual for the payment tool. For example, there is a project of combination of a card of "Patterns" and student's . How to expand the market of usage of cards attempt is connected to their success as payment system? Where logic, misters technicians? As far as I understand, the task of national payment system as organization-operator - among other to confirm that here now in the reader such card is interposed and authorized by the owner. And he will confirm it to bank or the dean - whether yes ? Yes though let resolve logs in in schoolmates with its help. It would be convenient to me to have one card for all occasions. That and as the passport and as the driver's license worked and to pay that it was possible. A signboard then replace, if flies up. In  there is something similar, on responses it is rather convenient. What not so?

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Hello, Michael7, you wrote: M> "About protection of the rights of customers". Interesting. I.e. when to these all customers violently put a card of "patterns", of the rights (to refuse) somehow did not think

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Hello, ov, you wrote: CC>> typical  monopoly ov> business pays in Etozh to bank as well as with any other plastic. Plastic lets out banks, it is a lot of banks, where monopoly? Where ? In administrative "to force all to use". CC>> they should not work with other systems, them it is necessary to tire out all to itself and that into variants. ov> to whom "it"? Several tens banks which already work with this system? Platon or Migalkova recall, as they push through that to anybody  did not run but the profit will make for owners. ov> they idiots to refuse other systems in favor of one? Them force... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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Hello, ins-omnia, you wrote: CC>> So directly: time principal told that on favor - it means well and banks correctly do all, putting favor according to a batch and government line. IO> tone any strange. IO> it during reorganization and ranne-postreorganization time was fashionable. People imitated clowns from cultures-nomenkulatury, thinking that it approaches them to intellectual elite. Severely at you with a parcer, without accurately placed tags [sarcasm] perception does not work. IO> the Brighton loser,  on  since 80th years the Severe childhood,  the toys beaten to a floor? IO> now I remember, he like said that from them harm (from 3 hands). Google on request "to us on favor" produces sanctions I booze video where he personally tells as the sanction go on favor. IO> well most likely he actually spoke both that, and another. It permanently does it, yes. IO> It so in the politician often happens - the first person should be for all good and against all bad, therefore is frequent about what. It is smart! IO> and polarization of judgements happens at level of batches. What batches? IO> here it I do not think - at us of abroad only the general words. In the core of an offensive direction. IO> heat of madness (and not in connection with Russia even)  rises the last years.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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CC>>> typical  monopoly ov>> business pays in Etozh to bank as well as with any other plastic. Plastic lets out banks, it is a lot of banks, where monopoly? Where ? CC> in administrative "to force all to use". The monopoly it when someone one owns everything,  it when the state money under the pretext of implementation something useful is stolen. Please, specify where here monopoly and  about which you spoke. Advancement of the system - yes, probably aggressive - yes, but  monopoly? Or you simply wrote terrible words about what? CC> Platon or Migalkova recall, as they push through that to anybody  did not run but the profit will make for owners. So I not about  tell and not about  (it here generally by cash register, if speech about pigs), and about national payment system. About what profit to owners speech? About the commissions for transactions? So they in any payment system will be, only in case of national system money in the country remains. In what a problem? CC> them force if they could force them, they them in  would force to work. They cannot force them, hands are short.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> monopoly it when someone one owns all National system one and the created monopoly moves ahead administratively, here to you and . ov>  it when the state money under the pretext of implementation something useful is stolen. Here on implementation of this national system and . ov> advancement of the system - yes, probably aggressive - yes, but  monopoly? Or you simply wrote terrible words about what? , yes to me generally . To you with it then to potter. If you do not agree - yes please, I will not insist. ov> so I not about  speak and not about  (it here generally by cash register if speech about pigs) Speech about administratively created requisitions ov> in case of national system money in the country remains For a short while while their owner does not deduce from the country. And service will be settling therefore as "and where you get to" CC>> Them force ov> if they could force them, they them in  would force to work. They cannot force them, hands are short. For operation in Crimea to banks arrive  which these  will hinder. And the profit  from operation of banks in Crimea is not present any. In dry residual: from Crimea it of profit any one inconveniences.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

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ov>> monopoly it when someone one owns all CC> National system one and the created monopoly moves ahead administratively, here to you and . Monopoly it not when national system one, and when generally system only one. And here to you on a choice and the visa, and  and that only is not present. Does not pull on monopoly. Or you not enough one national system? I am afraid that if them will be two, you will be even more dissatisfied ov>>  it when the state money under the pretext of implementation something useful is stolen. CC> here on implementation of this national system and . The system is already implemented, works. Probably you have any proofs ? Or it is simple strongly believe? CC>>> Them force ov>> if they could force them, they them in  would force to work. They cannot force them, hands are short. CC>>> for operation in Crimea to banks arrive  which these  will hinder. It is what side "it" problems of banks prevent? At them all bloody  under the offshore is stuffed, and in the country all and so will work. Or all the same "they" with banks should be considered? You define then, and that not clearly turns out. Like as it is impossible to quarrel with banks, but with  at them with impunity it is possible to select the visa. A hogwash any... CC> Djud, yes to me generally . To you with it then to potter. Would be to you , you here would not write.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> as to expand the market of usage of cards attempt is connected to their success as payment system? Where logic, misters technicians? ov> as far as I understand, the task of national payment system as organization-operator - among other to confirm that here now in the reader such card is interposed and authorized by the owner. And he will confirm it to bank or the dean - whether yes ? Here it is necessary to look a reality. If this system is analog of the Visa questions  appear. I.e. if they take nontrivial percent from each transaction (how many there from the Visa, 3 %?) a question to whom they go. It is clear that it is better, if money remains in the country, instead of leaves abroad, but nevertheless.

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Hello, CreatorCray, you wrote: CC> it is severe at you with a parcer, without accurately placed tags [sarcasm] perception does not work. So in it and a dislocation essence, people perceived as sarcasm any spiteful hissing without cause when it proceeded from certain figures. And copied this style. And in emigration it was preserved. IO>> now I remember, he like said that from them harm (from 3 hands). CC> Google on request "to us on favor" produces sanctions I booze video where he personally tells as the sanction go on favor. Contrary to a popular belief, sanctions cause a damage to economy of Russia, in particular, to a technological transfer, president Vladimir Putin at investment forum  declared. It is the first link from Google on demand " harm from sanctions". And here the first link on demand " favor of sanctions": Putin told about favor of the Antirussian sanctions Thanks to the western sanctions, Russia actually completely covers the needs for pork and fowl Where there a lie can specify, was specific? IO>> it so in the politician often happens - the first person should be for all good and against all bad, therefore is frequent about what. CC> It is smart! Like it is banality. Everywhere so. Well there is certainly Poland where the first persons of the state unmask every day plots of Russia, or there Duterte any. However at you it too will be fast, I think already in the following period. CC> what batches? With distinct parliamentary parties really there is a problem. Here it also should be answerable for all. IO>> here it I do not think - at us of abroad only the general words. CC> in the core of an offensive direction. Not truth. You cannot point a finger at something offensive. Besides that the American press was beyond for a long time decencies. By the way, at them there such standard reception when tell about Russia, something like "masses,  propagation about ' the rotting West '". Mandatory so-called, that the impression was made as if it is such real stamp of propagation in Russia - "the rotting West". I.e. conscience at people exactly zero. Kiselyov on this background - the professor lecturing on philology. IO>> heat of madness (and not in connection with Russia even)  rises the last years. CC> here at a forum "Abroad" inhabitants LA ask council about a survival in  already. And you in sand hide a head. I certainly do not think that will be real , it will be simple drift towards 3rd world to proceed.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: ov> the client does not pay for service, business pays to bank as well as with any other plastic. Plastic lets out banks, it is a lot of banks, where monopoly? Where ? The client always pays.

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Hello, ov, you wrote: S>> will not be. It try to thrust and invent in each hole a heap of applications unusual for the payment tool. For example, there is a project of combination of a card of "Patterns" and student's . ov> as far as I understand, the task of national payment system as organization-operator - among other to confirm that here now in the reader such card is interposed and authorized by the owner. And he will confirm it to bank or the dean - whether yes ? Roughly speaking, the protocol and the data which need to be stored. What does the payment system do? It authorizes on removal of money from the account "And" and transfer into the account. As whom will be  "World" at passing an examination? Where the basis of estimations will be stored and how to get to it access? Well and the purposes too - why for the sake of obtaining of estimations of students it is necessary to force to conclude the contract with bank? ov> in  there is something similar, on responses it is rather convenient. What not so? What, there too  with bank cards combined?