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Hello, turbocode, you wrote: T> your Hernja the Nokia,  is better. And so why at you brains washed out .

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Hello, SkyDance, you wrote: SD> Put not so much in Jobs's genius, how many that permitted to it. What means permitted?

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T> Ajfon is worse on all parameters, except one: it is more convenient in usage in an everyday life of the normal person. It small, thin, it not took necessary to get a stylus One million years ago a primitive monkey for the first time in hands a stick. Now invented , and "normal " at last can sigh with simplification. We wait for i-technology for normal  which release from a spoon and a piece of paper.

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T> the Normal person wants to get one hand> without any styluses,  keypads> OS which can be controlled fingers> search on the Internet of any files for programs> dustbins> fingers> to be picked heaps of shit the Associative array the extremely characteristic.

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G> Why apple made iphone? What technological break by it helped? At the expense of what? Removed that distinguishes at all a monkey from the person, and a primitive monkey from humanoid - need to use tools (and to strain a head to learn to work as tools). It is not necessary any styluses, it is possible directly there hands, at all without wiping after a hamburger. Got in  needs of 95 % of functionally illiterate population.

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> that means permitted? Exactly that that is: Jobs received carte blanche at creation iPhone (it generally was one of its conditions at resetting). That is phone did exactly how Jobs told. Its word was solving. A word of one person. Instead of the commissions from 100500 wishing to leave the trace in the history.

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Hello, SkyDance, you wrote: >> that means permitted? SD> exactly that that is: Jobs received carte blanche at creation iPhone (it generally was one of its conditions at resetting). So from whom received? It was the boss

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> so from whom received? It was the boss It there was no "boss". At public corporations bosses are a board of directors. And still a heap of managers of different levels. And a heap of advisers. Including  . Look at the same Samsung. This office can create very modern phone. But... The faceless. In it all will be better, than at (xxx), (yyy), (zzz). Only to create iPhone at this company it does not turn out. Not because there is no Jobs. That is why that is not present __ the specific person who would have carte blanche. Collective judgement of hundreds Koreans...

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> And once was for example Nokia810. A> Look that this such. , what ugly  a shit piece

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> The fool.  is worse on any of parameters in spite of the fact that on 10 (ten, Charles!) years . On what parameter? Storage has less, the processor is worse, the screen and the camera is worse, weighs more. I congratulate you, the citizen, .

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> Why apple made iphone? What technological break by it helped? At the expense of what? Very many competitors did not believe that people will buy phone in cost more than $500. This moment changes very many.  risked fairly to be enclosed in development, from OS to iron. The high price category allowed not to feel sorry for means and to make humanly, instead of a tjap-mistake.

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Hello, SkyDance, you wrote: SD> It was not "boss". SD> At public corporations bosses are a board of directors. And still a heap of managers of different levels. And a heap of advisers. Including  . SD> Look at the same Samsung. This office can create very modern phone. But... The faceless. In it all will be better, than at (xxx), (yyy), (zzz). Only to create iPhone at this company it does not turn out. Not because there is no Jobs. That is why that is not present __ the specific person who would have carte blanche. Collective judgement of hundreds Koreans... , the interesting theory

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Hello, MTD, you wrote: A>> The fool.  is worse on any of parameters in spite of the fact that on 10 (ten, Charles!) Years . MTD> On what parameter? Storage has less, the processor is worse, the screen and the camera is worse, weighs more. I congratulate you, the citizen, . Storage and the processor is at all parameters. It is intrigues of the vendor. Parameters are that it was possible to make as a result. And so, the screen is better at Nokii. You will consider certainly pixels. And I will tell that at Nokii the screen matte. It not . Therefore screen Nokii it is visible, and Ajfona - is not present. Screen Nokii resistive. It means that at Nokii a stylus it is possible to get to control items. In Ajfone it is not present. You certainly can tear up to a drink that interface Ajfona "is ground under fingers". But  it is not ground. To type the text it is absolutely impossible. I do not speak about that the text to edit. A thick finger it is impossible to install the cursor where it is necessary. And at Nokii it is possible. Yes, without a stylus, simply growing a nail on one finger. And still Nokii is the sliding keypad (which not  a place on the screen). And still Nokii is an USB-host (it is possible to connect a flash card and the keypad). And at Nokii is high-grade Linux and it is possible to work with a customary surrounding, instead of to study absolutely other world with  logic. And still Nokii have a high-grade Python and it is possible to program directly on it. On the following model appeared high-grade With ++ and Qt, but this model was cut by Elop. And still Nokija lives without recharge much longer. And still Nokiju can be connected to the big computer as a flash card, and there are no problems with a file transfer. At Nokii the normal plug for earphones. Those ten (yes even hundred) the gram on which their weight differs does not play any role from a word absolutely. The Same it is possible to tell about a thickness and especially about round corners. The camera at Nokii really is worse, but we consider not the camera. In general if now there was a same device, but from 8-dm the screen, I simply would buy it and would calm down to pension. All Ajfony simply nearby did not roll. Absolutely. Not, I understand that  will overstrain, but I am not subject to zombiing. If you are subject - that is your problems.

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: O> One million years ago the primitive monkey took for the first time a stick in hands. Now invented , and "normal " at last can sigh with simplification. We wait for i-technology for normal  which release from a spoon and a piece of paper. And, understood. iPhone was bad, it was easier because to use it and under force at all to programmers. And the modern cars accordingly bad because use them programmers can even, they do not have double  coupling, , control lever a corner of an advancing of ignition, the driver should not be able repaired the car - full ! Ah, where the world slides!

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: O> the Associative array the extremely characteristic.... Arisen in your head.

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: G>> Why apple made iphone? What technological break by it helped? At the expense of what? O> Removed that distinguishes at all a monkey from the person, and a primitive monkey from humanoid - need to use tools (and to strain a head to learn to work as tools). It is not necessary any styluses, it is possible directly there hands, at all without wiping after a hamburger. Got in  needs of 95 % of functionally illiterate population. My God, that is now tools for use by tools are necessary! We need to go deeper! Ideal phone is such phone which can use only the stylist, but  in hands it is impossible to hold (if you not a monkey). It is necessary to take a stylus special nippers. However, for a stylus it is necessary to take nippers in hands, it is a minus, is what to refine in a construction.

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> Storage and the processor is at all parameters. It is intrigues of the vendor. Objective criteria we discard, because it is more convenient to demagogue to juggle with the subjective. A> parameters are that it was possible to make as a result. Aha, bla-bla-bla. A> And so, the screen is better at Nokii. You will consider certainly pixels. Including. A> and I will tell that at Nokii the screen matte. It not . And to sense? A> therefore screen Nokii it is visible, and Ajfona - is not present. I do not have near at hand shit piece on which you  if it is at you show a comparative photo. It will be assured  far ahead. A> In Ajfone it is not present. You certainly can tear up to a drink that interface Ajfona "is ground under fingers". You to a drink tear up it, and I use - a stick to drag in 100 times more inconveniently. A> but  it is not ground. To type the text it is absolutely impossible. And what for on it with the text to work? For this purpose there is a desktop, to type pair of sentences in easy without what or difficulties. A> and at Nokii it is possible. Yes, without a stylus, simply growing a nail on one finger. Faugh it it is simple  and it is disgusting. A> and still Nokii is the sliding keypad (which not  a place on the screen). Shit useless. A> and still Nokii is an USB-host (it is possible to connect a flash card and the keypad). , wires yesterday. A> and at Nokii is high-grade Linux and it is possible to work with a customary surrounding, A> instead of to study absolutely other world with  logic.  it is necessary? Here at me  is, how time I thinks how many felt need to see the console? (Never). A> And still Nokii have a high-grade Python and it is possible to program directly on it. , what for? A> On the following model appeared high-grade With ++ and Qt, but this model was cut by Elop. Correctly made, red-eyed  go to a garden. A> and still Nokija lives without recharge much longer. It is argument. How many? A> And still Nokiju can be connected to the big computer as a flash card, and there are no problems with a file transfer. And  normally connects to a poppy. A> at Nokii the normal plug for earphones. Wire. A> those ten (yes even hundred) the gram on which their weight differs does not play any role from a word absolutely. A> the Same it is possible to tell about a thickness and especially about round corners. It very much . A> the Camera at Nokii really is worse, but we consider not the camera. , well though it recognized. A> not, I understand that  will overstrain, but I am not subject to zombiing. A> if you are subject - that is your problems. That? Well you burn down, still to look for such evangelist it is necessary as you.

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Hello, alpha21264, you wrote: A> At what here technological break?! You what not the programmer? There is here no technological break. A> simply Steve Jobs is able  any shit. And  while it was live. There are also others , they now advance mega-accumulators.

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T> And, understood. iPhone was bad, it was easier because to use it and under force at all to programmers. And the modern cars accordingly bad because use them programmers can even, they do not have double  coupling, , control lever a corner of an advancing of ignition, the driver should not be able repaired the car - full ! Ah, where the world slides! All upside down. Against the tool was automated and ergonomic, nobody objects. But it is necessary to consider that the civilization of people, millenia using (and improving) tools, keeps on certain culture of reversal with tools. They should to know, study, be able be supported in good repair, to protect and observe reversal rules. It is necessary to have such skills at level of subconsciousness and to transfer to following generations that our machine civilization did not roll down in the herd which has lost all technology.  tritely by the way of demonstrative I even would tell plantings of a cult of negation by this instrumental (and engineering) cultures." The fool became norm, a little more, and the fool becomes an ideal "(c). The interface is projected not for the optimal decision of the task after appropriate minimum training and so that illiterate in no event it would be not necessary to strain a brain for the sake of learning of elements (computer) literacy, and not to develop at all a small motility stimulating thinking, having control over the tool for the letter. What for to do 10 serial screens with pair huge rectangles on everyone when it is possible to find room for all on 1"difficult"form? That not got used to read was not frightened of a text wall. What for each of these of 10 windows  swells and  creeps away, wasting time and a battery? That the seeing computer would not be frightened for the first time, as it pushed something and" all disappeared "(in other window switched). What for all these design receptions for peasants from a plow today for the first time in a city seeing a computer - drag in products for engineers of type of a site msdn and the Visual Studio environments? Because and  too arranged  a nursery of the functional illiteracy. Whether it is casual?

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SD> Look at the same Samsung. This office can create very modern phone. But... The faceless. In it all will be better, than at (xxx), (yyy), (zzz). Only to create iPhone at this company it does not turn out. Here also different lines of thought. During the stay of operation in Broadcom (the Samsung and Apple use in the phones WiFi chips from them) it was accurately visible - for Samsung the main thing of digit, more, faster. The Apple rarely puts the latest development, here the main thing user experience and to lick all. And then I left, but all the same with WiFi I potter. Various  it is more than problems from Samsung, and they do not have normal channel of dialogue to solve these problems. And the Apple in this plan is decent, them  excites.

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Hello, Osaka, you wrote: O> All upside down. Against the tool was automated and ergonomic, nobody objects. But if the tool is automated and  then after all any fool with not developed motility can use it! Again ! Such tools it is necessary at least  with  to protect, that peasants from a plow did not approach to them. O> but it is necessary to consider that the civilization of people, millenia using (and improving) tools, keeps on certain culture of reversal with tools. They should to know, study, be able be supported in good repair, to protect and observe reversal rules. It is necessary to have such skills at level of subconsciousness and to transfer to following generations that our machine civilization did not roll down in the herd which has lost all technology. When our spaceships plow Universe open spaces ... O> the Interface is projected not for the optimal decision of the task after appropriate minimum training, the Optimal decision of the task is it is necessary to stop, suppose on the earth a bag, to get phone, a stylus, in one hand to hold phone, in other stylus and thus to type customer address? O> and so that illiterate in no event it would be not necessary to strain a brain for the sake of learning of elements (computer) literacy and not to develop at all a small motility stimulating thinking, having control over the tool for the letter.  the beginnings of 20 centuries with a manual mechanical transmission without synchronizers, hand-operated a corner of an advancing of ignition, changeover of oil of times in 500 km too stimulated development of automobile literacy and a small motility of hands and feet. O> what for to do 10 serial screens with pair huge rectangles on everyone when it is possible to find room for all on 1 "difficult" form? That not got used to read was not frightened of a text wall. What for each of these of 10 windows  swells and  creeps away, wasting time and a battery? That the seeing computer would not be frightened for the first time, as it pushed something and "all disappeared" (in other window switched). What for all these design receptions for peasants from a plow today for the first time in a city seeing a computer - drag in products for engineers of type of a site msdn and the Visual Studio environments? Because and  too arranged  a nursery of the functional illiteracy. Whether it is casual? For ergonomics increase. 10 serial screens do on single operations, type of the master of setting. Their singularity that the user fulfills them once in life and to force it something to study for one-time  is a delirium as it spends for learning of time much more, than on   10 steps intuitively the clear master

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Hello, mrTwister, you wrote: O>> All upside down. Against the tool was automated and ergonomic, nobody objects. T> but if the tool is automated and  then after all any fool with not developed motility can use it! Again ! Such tools it is necessary at least  with  to protect, that peasants from a plow did not approach to them. As there at Einstein: "Let it will be simple: simply, as soon as it is possible, but is not easier." Intestinal parasites too rejoice: it is possible to stick simply to the master and not to be soared - let organs die off, what for to us they? The meal is! What for to us progress and development? Here it is necessary to know when to stop: it is clear that to type the text on phone with the numeric keypad heavily and it is necessary to refine this business. Engineers of Blekberri showed, what abrupt can be the smart phone keypad, it very much  and is practical. The sliding keypad of a horizontal slider can be even more convenient for typing, but strongly worsens consumer qualities of the device, and reliability suffers. In comparison with the keypad from Blekberi, screen is that degradation, instead of ergonomic improving. Here there is no ergonomics, simply get out, as can. Personally I am am afflicted very much with absence of devices with  the keypad, as class. I even on the small keypad at Sony Xperia x10 mini typed the text, than on a current 5.5"shovel much faster. Wrote letters, yes. On the current device it is more  where there are no big paragraphs. The thought breaks on 5-10  messages. Why? Because it is inconvenient to import editings to the big message, using the screen keypad. , ,  - everywhere short messages.  - you heard such expression? When it appeared? That fact that the modern people are worse focused on the big texts, is worse them understand, think clips and slogans is the fact. It is convenient? Yes. This development? No, degradation. To do something difficult, the advanced tools are necessary, they are not present now in masses. How to send a text slice? It is necessary to photograph it and to send. A joke, an aphorism? The text in jpeg. Why so? Because on phone the picture is transferred in one cliques, and the text to copy difficultly. It is difficult to cut a phrase and a sentence. To transfer 50 byte of the text in the form of 10  jpeg pictures is a progress? Ergonomics? Let's load for this purpose global networks, we type petabytes of disks in data-centers of this . Same is easier, than to teach people to copy and write the text. It is ergonomic, it develops intelligence, aha. Return to me double  and  in the machine, than all this senselessness on the modern Internet is better.

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Hello, Gattaka, you wrote: G> Or the Apple had any patents? The Apple had herds long and carefully trained hamsters.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>