26

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

vsb>> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss. O> and suddenly in bank suddenly it appears it is written down, what they  banking operations on many money, and to them send collectors? I hardly represent, as it can lead to their loss.

27

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

vsb>> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss. S> Use . To get wages without the computer/cash dispense you can not any more. The interbank remittance without the computer any more does not transit. I hardly represent, as it can lead to their loss.

28

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Muxa, you wrote: vsb>>> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , and banking operations and at all does not use. I hardly represent, as vulnerability can lead to their loss. O>> and suddenly in bank suddenly it appears it is written down, what they  banking operations on many money, and to them send collectors? M> I hardly represent, as it can lead to their loss. And to guzzle that? And polyclinics/hospitals as will work? SWIFT will not work too.

29

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

M>> I hardly represent, as it can lead to their loss. S> and to guzzle that? Meal. S> and polyclinics/hospitals as will work? As earlier. S> SWIFT will not work too. Welcome to bank pinches.

30

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Muxa, you wrote: S>> And to guzzle that? M> Meal. All on a clearing settlement now. Even  does not suffice. S>> and polyclinics/hospitals as will work? M> as earlier. Will not be - cannot buy the equipment, pay salaries to doctors. Even the equipment all breaks, computers of doctors will not work. S>> SWIFT will not work too. M> welcome to bank pinches. The bank becomes useless, as between banks all transactions on a network.

31

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

S>>> And to guzzle that? M>> Meal. S> all on a clearing settlement now. No. S> even  does not suffice. It is impossible to print out? S>>> And polyclinics/hospitals as will work? M>> as earlier. S> will not be - cannot buy the equipment, pay salaries to doctors. . We about extinction or about life expectancy abbreviation speak? You seem to me mean the second. Draw the check - can buy. Draw the check - can pay salaries. S> even the equipment all breaks, computers of doctors will not work. Breaks - repair/buy the new. S>>> SWIFT will not work too. M>> welcome to bank pinches. S> the bank becomes useless, as between banks all transactions on a network. Uncover telegraphs/faxes.

32

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Muxa, you wrote: S>> All on a clearing settlement now. M> Is not present. Yes. 90 % of all transmissions of money are a record in the computer. S>> even  does not suffice. M> it is impossible to print out? There is nothing - all computers broke and print on them. S>>>> And polyclinics/hospitals as will work? M>>> as earlier. S>> will not be - cannot buy the equipment, pay salaries to doctors. M> draw the check - can buy. M> draw the check - can pay salaries. The check? The check pay from the account, and the account is a record in the computer. Or you think bank gets a writing-book and there will write down how many at you on the account? S>> even the equipment all breaks, computers of doctors will not work. M> Breaks - repair/buy the new. Do not buy - the monetary system does not work. S>>>> SWIFT will not work too. M>>> welcome to bank pinches. S>> the bank becomes useless, as between banks all transactions on a network. M> uncover telegraphs/faxes. It does not turn out - automatic telephone exchanges even will not work. There for a long time already not relays stand.

33

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

. We about extinction or about abbreviation duration/deterioration life/rollback in development of years on 50 speak? You seem to me mean at all extinction. M>> is not present. S> Yes. 90 % of all transmissions of money are a record in the computer. You tangled me. That you tell that everything, 90 %. Well, there will be not 90 %, and 0 %. S>>> Even  does not suffice. M>> it is impossible to print out? S> there is nothing - all computers broke and print on them. Will print on machine tools. S> the check? The check pay from the account, and the account is a record in the computer. Or you think bank gets a writing-book and there will write down how many at you on the account? That is banks appeared about forty years ago, together with computers? S>>> even the equipment all breaks, computers of doctors will not work. M>> Breaks - repair/buy the new. S> do not buy - the monetary system does not work. ? Money is - and the monetary system does not work. Very strange. M>> uncover telegraphs/faxes. S> it does not turn out - automatic telephone exchanges even will not work. There for a long time already not relays stand. Still to understand what for to telegraph a computer...

34

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> 2. It is possible to cause or through JS or even without the active actions of a victim - TCP-package sending. Network isolation and all . Whether S> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? Is not present certainly.... <<RSDN@Home 1.0.0 alpha 5 rev. 0>>

35

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> Yes. 90 % of all transmissions of money are a record in the computer. Store money in a bedside table,  that. The bank - to itself  has whom.

36

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

vsb> Here when the Russian hackers set the cipherer in all Ukrainian state institutions and there there was a collapse, here it, probably, it was unpleasant.  in this case there was an idle time , it when  turns in .

37

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

Hello, Shmj, you wrote: S> This hogwash Meltdown/Spectre brought to thought that can exist and vulnerability  scale. S> that if vulnerability, which will be found out: S> 1. It is not eliminated by patches (type in the processor). S> 2. It is possible to cause or through JS or even without the active actions of a victim - TCP-package sending. S> 3. All main processors are subject. S> 4. With the computer of a victim you can do that want. Whether S> it leads to an IT apocalypse? Whether stops trade, banking operations, transport, sale of the goods and services? Whether can lead to death of mankind? Well, at first Wake-on-LAN a packet, and then in a minute-other - THAT PACKET

38

Re: [On motives Meltdown and Spectre] an IT apocalypse

vsb> the Considerable part of my familiar mankind uses computers only that on a mail-ru , Well here, the chat will be chopped off also everything, hi the zombie-apocalypse